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What's old is new again...
Originally Posted by Partisan1983
A locked door is of little value unless it's a good solid steel fire door designed to stop rifle rounds."My daughter called me after that Sandy Hook thing and said, 'You know, that little metal thing that you invented, if Sandy Hook would have had that in their school, those teachers wouldn't have to worry about having their doors locked. They could have just dropped the boot in and it would have saved every one of the children's lives," Couturier said.
A typical wooden school door will barely stop a .22LR, let alone a pistol or rifle round.
What everyone needs to do is figure out WHY we have school shootings and all the violence rather than trying to invent ways to lock doors......
It never used to be this way.
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The door shown in the video has decorative panels that are probably 3/16 inch thick cheap plywood. A decent pellet gun would penetrate it.
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Sure...with a .22 inch hole. It makes it tough to kill a couple dozen people when all you can see through is a .22 inch hole.
Of course it always used to be this way...why do you think people invented moats, drawbridges, portcullis(is?, i? es?), murder holes, etc.It never used to be this way.
Sure the bad guys didn't tend to go after schools filled with kids, but the value of a solidly built door has been around for a long long time.
I have an idea that all one has to do is look who benefits most from the results of these school shootings to find the source.
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Most public access doors are required to open/hinge outwards. Thought being that in the event of fire or crowds pushing against the door it would still open IAW OSHA Regulations.
Derp.
Good point. Explains why they couldn't use the $20 "door club".
Although even a decent wood door as seen in most schools that was actually locked would probably be fairly effective.
Give the faculty Glocks and train them how to use them.
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And what happens when the shooter comes in and uses a shotgun on the hinges like so many law enforcement types do during forced entries?
Sounds like an arms race to me...
"That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E
They can and do, do that now, moron.And what happens when the shooter comes in and uses a shotgun on the hinges like so many law enforcement types do during forced entries?
Sounds like an arms race to me...
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Do you need to always argue just for the sake of arguing?
I'm not talking about "seeing" through a hole. I'm talking about someone with a rifle spraying through the door and hitting people at random.
And, I'm not talking about medieval castles, arrows, sieges and moats.
I'm talking about the relatively recent INCREASE, dramatic increase, in senseless and violent acts.
I'm 57 years old and I don't recall hearing news about mass school shootings, workplace vengeance shootings and all the other similar crimes where someone seemingly "snaps", then goes on a killing spree and finally kills himself.
It never used to be this way, and I'm sure anyone here around my age can confirm that this is true.
Mass violence is a NEW problem. It's only been around for about 15 to 20 years I'd estimate.
Sure, there were OCCASIONAL crimes before then. But not the mass killing sprees, and so often.
When things change so radically, and in such a relatively short period of time, the thing to do is not simply try to contain it.
What needs to be done is to ask WHY it's happening, IDENTIFY the problem and finally SOLVE the problem.
I mean... as an example... if a brand of new car started having problems where the paint peels off down to the bare metal the first time it rained, would the car company start selling repaint kits to customers, or would they try to find the problem on the assembly line paint shop?
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In real shootings, the shooter usually ends up dead via suicide or by being shot by a cop or guard or citizen.
Obviously, the SHOOTER does not benefit from the event, so if someone else benefits (lets say, an anti-gun politician), then doesn't that imply that the event was setup by said politician?
And, if that's true, I'm sure said politician doesn't simply say to the shooter "pssstt... I need you to go and shoot up this school".
He ENGINEERS the event by having others push, hurt and harass the target until he finally snaps and does the politician's bidding. And he's obviously expendable.
"Zero tolerance" policies go a long way towards helping drive a person to violent murder. Push and push and push and push and push..... The kid won't fight back out of fear of being suspended or expelled.
When he's pushed far enough not to care about the consequences.... mission accomplished.
All these rabid school administrators that get sick satisfaction out of expelling a child for a gun shaped pastry are complicit in these murders.
Think about it.
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So simple. So effective. So inexpensive. Why are some folks so dumb?
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Arming teachers and school personnel would, of course, go a long way towards helping prevent these shootings, but again I ask WHY is it happening in the first place?
Fix the problem at the SOURCE.
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My take...and I could be wrong...is that schools and other gun free zones are soft targets. Harden them as described by Jefferson and the active shooter scenario becomes less appealing to a nut job contemplating such an event. As far as why do nut jobs exist? Good luck with that one. Always have, always will.
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What happens when the teacher snaps? Could happen.
As soon as its legal and I do not fear for my job, I will carry at school. Will have to change my dress somewhat.....But I will. My school is huge. 3 floors, multiple expansions since it was built in 1929. Just added a new gym/pool/weight rooms. If we had a shooter, it would take forever for cops to arrive and do anything, even if they WANTED to. A large school to search and find someone in. Even with shooting.
Wish I was gutsy enough to just go ahead and carry now. But, I have bad luck, and I would get busted by some freak accident and fired. So, I wait.
"What sick, barbaric bastards.
It's one thing to use terrorism to make a political statement, but the wanton mutilation and suffering of innocents? How does that forward your political goals? When done in the name of religion, how does that earn you brownie points with God?
Fuck religious extremism. And especially fuck the "religion of peace." "
So, lagcsocialist supports terrorism AS LONG AS ITS FOR POLITICAL ENDS....
Of course "gun free" zones are soft targets. That's why nutjobs choose them.
But, even before "gun free school zone" laws, schools were "soft targets". Yet, in the past we didn't have mass shootings on a regular basis.
Look here: http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/us/20-...ry-fast-facts/
Now, yeah I know it's the Communist News Network (CNN), but look at it.
I took those dates and sorted them by year:
08 01 1966
01 07 1973
08 20 1982
09 25 1982
05 17 1984
07 18 1984
08 20 1986
09 14 1989
10 16 1991
07 01 1993
04 20 1999
07 29 1999
03 21 2005
04 16 2007
12 05 2007
03 10 2009
03 29 2009
04 03 2009
11 05 2009
01 19 2010
08 03 2010
10 12 2011
07 20 2012
12 14 2012
09 16 2013
See anything? Not a whole lot of activity until around the early 1980's, then the SHTF.
Something has changed, and that needs to be identified and fixed.
Last edited by Krupski; 03-20-2014 at 10:48 AM.
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