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    yep, you can do all sorts of things with trail boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen Keller View Post
    yep, you can do all sorts of things with trail boss.
    It dosent work with the 200gr plated worth a shit. I have over 100 pulls to do

    the plated does work fine with 7.5 longshot

    Also my 9mm load worked great- 6gr aa#7 under the extreme 147 plated rn.
    So 2 out or 3 aint bad lol
    Gonna make up a few hundred of that.
    The 124 plated rn will get here soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by filthy phil View Post
    It dosent work with the 200gr plated worth a shit. I have over 100 pulls to do

    the plated does work fine with 7.5 longshot

    Also my 9mm load worked great- 6gr aa#7 under the extreme 147 plated rn.
    So 2 out or 3 aint bad lol
    Gonna make up a few hundred of that.
    The 124 plated rn will get here soon
    Whats going on with the 200 gr plated? Does it not cycle well or is it inaccurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAPOTS View Post
    Whats going on with the 200 gr plated? Does it not cycle well or is it inaccurate.
    Exactly what I'd like to find out as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuetzenman View Post
    Exactly what I'd like to find out as well.
    The slide wouldnt come back enough. Kept getting jams.
    The shits for lead. With speer lswc it worked great. And theres no more room for more powder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by filthy phil View Post
    The slide wouldnt come back enough. Kept getting jams.
    The shits for lead. With speer lswc it worked great. And theres no more room for more powder.
    Never load more untested rounds then your willing to pull...Ive had to pull a few my self ...no fun get one of them kinetic hammer deals and a block off wood.

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    Trail Boss is of course a Black Powder loading band aid. It is not intended for high performance semi-auto handguns. If you are loading for your S&W #3 .44 Russian it is fine. It has a very low pressure spike and can not be depended on to cycle a slide.
    Try Long shot or some other powder intended for modern auto-pistols. The bullets are not the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abpt1 View Post
    Never load more untested rounds then your willing to pull...Ive had to pull a few my self ...no fun get one of them kinetic hammer deals and a block off wood.
    Yep. Got a little workout today


    Quote Originally Posted by Durangokid View Post
    Trail Boss is of course a Black Powder loading band aid. It is not intended for high performance semi-auto handguns. If you are loading for your S&W #3 .44 Russian it is fine. It has a very low pressure spike and can not be depended on to cycle a slide.
    Try Long shot or some other powder intended for modern auto-pistols. The bullets are not the problem.
    Tb works great with lead. (But the speer lead I picked up left streaks in my glock. Looks like my 1911 will be seeing a lotta use.)
    Since it came in 5# I figured id try something to burn it up.
    And matter of fact I reloaded those pulls with 7.5 longshot
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    I like Winchester 231 it will do about anything you need in a .45.

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    I use TB in my 300blk bolt action loads and for .303 plinking rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Durangokid View Post
    I like Winchester 231 it will do about anything you need in a .45.
    hp38 and w231 are identical.

    Same burn rate, same data for loads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durangokid View Post
    I like Winchester 231 it will do about anything you need in a .45.
    Ill be glad to pick some up as soon as I see it, but I aint gonna pay over $60 online with hazmat fees

    Someone on the 1911 forum warned I might experience bullet setback on my loads.
    I tested and im good. Same oal after chambering
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    Quote Originally Posted by filthy phil View Post
    Ill be glad to pick some up as soon as I see it, but I aint gonna pay over $60 online with hazmat fees

    Someone on the 1911 forum warned I might experience bullet setback on my loads.
    I tested and im good. Same oal after chambering
    did they say why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAPOTS View Post
    did they say why?
    I pulled the rounds with trailboss and ran the cases thru the expander die, the steel cases were pretty wallowed out. I could seat the bullets up to the crimp by hand. The brass wasnt like that.
    Still havent reloaded the steel from the pulls but when I do I will test for setback
    I have a pretty good crimp on them. Likely preventing setback
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    Set back is always a danger in reloading steel cases. The steel may lack the elasticity needed to provide constant friction on the projectile. I have not loaded them. I have seen articles which recommend using an adhesive to reduce the chance of set back. If I were to experiment loading a straight wall case, I would use a cannelure tool.

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    Scored some unique. Stuff meters poorly without some vibration

    Its consistent now
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    The quality of the powder measure must also be accessed when powder metering is questioned.

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    Ive seen others report metering variances with the better equipment, not just the lowly lee
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    Different powder will meter differently some times from one measure to another. I use a LEE for some less critical loading. For my 1,000 meter loads I use the RCBS one pound measure. It is a very consistent measure.

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