Smokes - need ID.
Beer - need ID.
Work for the Federal Government - need ID.
Cold medicine - need ID.
NAACP Meeting - need ID.
Yet some fucking puke of a Federal judge says no ID is needed to vote in Wisconsin.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...-voter-id-law/
This isn't going to stand.
"And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"
Fair elections are contrary to the agenda. Anytime some jackass rails against voter ID laws, you know you're dealing with a marxist. Just don't expect them to have the decency to admit it in a public forum.
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It would seem the ones who scream the loudest against voter ID are the ones that most need policing.
Anyone who is against voter ID has something to fear from an honest election.
We have voter ID in Indiana and it seems to do a nice job keeping dead people from voting, but I have to wonder if there are some precincts which make believe they check ID to allow continued voting abuse.
Yes.Originally Posted by Gunner1558
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Undocumented immigrants and Viable signs of life are not a hindrance for voters in Florida.
Voting -- that's a right.
"That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E
Better check your list, idiot, we have the right of free association and free speech, like in a NAACP meeting.
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For citizens it is a right - Mexicans, dead people, and felons do not have a right to vote.
So's owning a gun. Try doing that without ID.
If we refuse to rule ourselves with reason, then we shall be ruled by our passions.
He, Who Will Not Reason, Is a Bigot; He, Who Cannot, Is a Fool; and He, Who Dares Not, Is a Slave. -Sir William Drummond
There are some things I will not abide within my sight!
I've bought several guns without showing ID. Nothing illegal about it.
I've also bought alcohol, tobacco, and cold medicine without showing ID.
me too. but there has been other times when if I had not had my id I would have been denied.
While no one ever listens to me,
I am constantly being told to be quiet.
In a world of snowflakes,
be the heat..
How do you think I got mine, before I got busted with them?
"That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E
At a gun shop?
And I suppose I can go vote anywhere I like, not at a registered polling place?
Cool, next time I think I'll go vote at the local drugstore...lines no where near as long there.
Last edited by Oswald Bastable; 04-29-2014 at 11:27 PM.
If we refuse to rule ourselves with reason, then we shall be ruled by our passions.
He, Who Will Not Reason, Is a Bigot; He, Who Cannot, Is a Fool; and He, Who Dares Not, Is a Slave. -Sir William Drummond
There are some things I will not abide within my sight!
Kind of moving the mark there aren't you?
I do think you have something of a point there though. But I still maintain my stance, as previously argued, for the same reasons.
You knew exactly what I meant initially, and purposefully chose to use the FTF example, knowing full well there is no equivalent voting method.
It is you who attempted to move the mark.
If we refuse to rule ourselves with reason, then we shall be ruled by our passions.
He, Who Will Not Reason, Is a Bigot; He, Who Cannot, Is a Fool; and He, Who Dares Not, Is a Slave. -Sir William Drummond
There are some things I will not abide within my sight!
Okay, what about absentee voting? How do you "card" people there?
"That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E
Of course I knew what you meant. But there is an equivalent, absentee voting.
Every state that has a voter ID law has exempted absentee ballots from the requirement.
All these voter ID laws were written by Republicans, and they ignore those absentee ballots because they think those tend to vote Republican.
The real point you were trying to make of course is that it's difficult to go through life without ID.
Which I think is true.
But it's also fairly easy to live without one. Personally, I can't remember the last time I showed ID for something. I would guess at most I show it once or twice a year, sometimes once every few years.
Not my job to institute such a system...but nice attempt to sidestep the issue, which was whether you should have to present id to exercise a right.
If we refuse to rule ourselves with reason, then we shall be ruled by our passions.
He, Who Will Not Reason, Is a Bigot; He, Who Cannot, Is a Fool; and He, Who Dares Not, Is a Slave. -Sir William Drummond
There are some things I will not abide within my sight!
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