Brazos river SE Young County Texas

[miketx]

It is LOW! Lower than i have seen it.

Here's a panorama:



A regular shot:

[LAGC]

Here's a recent pic of Lake Mead:



You can see how far the water-level has dropped this year.

(Thank God global warming is a hoax! Would sure hate to think we are doing this to ourselves...)


Water rations are coming...

[imanaknut]

I wish I could send you some of the rains we have been getting drowned by since the start of the year. Add to that record snowfall and it just goes to show you that what happens happens, and it is only th human's super-ego that lets human beings believe that we control the weather.

[LAGC]

I wish I could send you some of the rains we have been getting drowned by since the start of the year. Add to that record snowfall and it just goes to show you that what happens happens, and it is only th human's super-ego that lets human beings believe that we control the weather.

As the atmosphere warms, the airstreams and currents shift, so some areas are going to fare better (precipitation-wise) than others.

In general though, the deserts are getting much drier and water is becoming more scarce.

It was questionable building a city (Las Vegas) in the middle of the desert in the first place, but now its looking downright dangerous.

Lake Mead supplies 90% of Las Vegas' water, so either they find a new water source or impose draconian controls on water consumption.

The casinos (with their amazing waterworks) have already voluntarily begun rationing and scaling things back.

[El Jefe]

As the atmosphere warms, the airstreams and currents shift, so some areas are going to fare better (precipitation-wise) than others.

In general though, the deserts are getting much drier and water is becoming more scarce.

It was questionable building a city (Las Vegas) in the middle of the desert in the first place, but now its looking downright dangerous.

Lake Mead supplies 90% of Las Vegas' water, so either they find a new water source or impose draconian controls on water consumption.

The casinos (with their amazing waterworks) have already voluntarily begun rationing and scaling things back.

Well, except for the fact that its actually not warming, and hasn't for over 15 years.

I saw where the founder of the weather channel came out again a few days ago railing against the junk science of global warming.

At this point the only people still on the bandwagon are those getting paid, and the sheep (morons) who'll believe anything they're told.

[LAGC]

I saw where the founder of the weather channel came out again a few days ago railing against the junk science of global warming.

There might be a slight conflict of interest there -- I think the Weather Channel might have a vested interest in seeing more extreme weather events like droughts and storms happen, since that draws in more viewers to their channel.

That founder might be an astute meteorologist, but that isn't the same as being well-versed in climate science.

[El Jefe]

There might be a slight conflict of interest there -- I think the Weather Channel might have a vested interest in seeing more extreme weather events like droughts and storms happen, since that draws in more viewers to their channel.

That founder might be an astute meteorologist, but that isn't the same as being well-versed in climate science.

No one is well versed in climate science you idiot! Almost every day a new factor to the equation is thought of.

As of now none of the models being used equal up with whats actually taking place. One of the bigger reasons, and problems for warmists, is our profound lack of knowledge on the subjects of just how much heat and co2 are transferred back and forth by our oceans.

You go ahead and believe this bull shit, but in 20 years when things are the same as they are now, you're going to look pretty stupid. Okay, stupider.

[LAGC]

You go ahead and believe this bull shit, but in 20 years when things are the same as they are now, you're going to look pretty stupid. Okay, stupider.

The sad thing is, in 20 years when things have gotten MUCH worse with far more frequent and powerful tropical storms, coastal flooding, tornadoes, and heavy droughts, some of you will still deny what scientists have been trying to warn us about for so many years now and claim its all part of the "natural cycle."

It's ironic, because our only hope at this point (since its too late to reign in Greenhouse gas emissions), is that scientists figure out a way for us to adapt. There's already been talk about trying to figure out a way of purifying water out of Great Salt Lake. Sounds like that area of the U.S. is in for deep shit pretty soon, water-wise, so we'll either have to figure out something or many millions of people are going to have to pick up and relocate.

[El Jefe]

The sad thing is, in 20 years when things have gotten MUCH worse with far more frequent and powerful tropical storms, coastal flooding, tornadoes, and heavy droughts, some of you will still deny what scientists have been trying to warn us about for so many years now and claim its all part of the "natural cycle."

It's ironic, because our only hope at this point (since its too late to reign in Greenhouse gas emissions), is that scientists figure out a way for us to adapt. There's already been talk about trying to figure out a way of purifying water out of Great Salt Lake. Sounds like that area of the U.S. is in for deep shit pretty soon, water-wise, so we'll either have to figure out something or many millions of people are going to have to pick up and relocate.

You guys have been saying that for years and it still isn't happening. By now all the coastal cities were supposed to be under water and the polar ice caps a thing of the past. Fail.

[5.56NATO]

[LAGC]

You guys have been saying that for years and it still isn't happening. By now all the coastal cities were supposed to be under water and the polar ice caps a thing of the past. Fail.

So Katrina was just an anomaly? Glacier National Park isn't almost completely dry now? Las Vegas ain't running out of water?

How many anecdotes do you need before you start connecting the dots?

[El Jefe]

So Katrina was just an anomaly? Glacier National Park isn't almost completely dry now? Las Vegas ain't running out of water?

How many anecdotes do you need before you start connecting the dots?

Katrina was no different than dozens of other hurricanes we've had, if it had missed New Orleans to the east no one would have thought much of it. Las Vegas is running out of water because they continue to use more of it each year. Its really pretty simple, if you place a city in an arid zone you will have water issues.

Only a fool would look at the items you list and extrapolate from there that we should deep six our economy.

This isn't about climate, its about Marxism and tree humper religion.

You know, since you are also part of the problem, why do you keep on living, shouldn't you and the other freaks off yourselves..............for the sake of the planet?

[El Jefe]

Something else thats going to be funny, since they are outlawing coal and have nothing on hand to replace it with, we will eventually have huge grid issues during the heat of the summer. Brown and blackouts during July and August aren't going to impress the electorate.

[LAGC]

Something else thats going to be funny, since they are outlawing coal and have nothing on hand to replace it with, we will eventually have huge grid issues during the heat of the summer. Brown and blackouts during July and August aren't going to impress the electorate.

I thought natural gas was picking up the slack? In fact, isn't that the reason so many coal plants are shuttering -- they can't compete with cheap gas?

[El Jefe]

I thought natural gas was picking up the slack? In fact, isn't that the reason so many coal plants are shuttering -- they can't compete with cheap gas?

No. They are closing coal plants much faster than gas or nuke plants can be built. I'm telling you, when its 100 degrees and we have no juice, people will want to know the cause.

[5.56NATO]

North Africa used to be lush paradise but now it's a lot of desert. How many cars and power plants and so on were burning fuels emitting carbon several thousand years ago to make that come about?




The climate changes on its own despite mans puny efforts.

[LAGC]

No. They are closing coal plants much faster than gas or nuke plants can be built. I'm telling you, when its 100 degrees and we have no juice, people will want to know the cause.

Well, don't look at me. I think we should have followed France's lead and invested heavily in nuclear, like decades ago. Now there's a zero-carbon energy source that can meet America's energy needs without contributing to global warming.

But after Three Mile Island, the oil & coal industries were able to successfully demonize the nuclear power industry in the public's eye, ensuring a steady stream of profits for decades to come.

[El Jefe]

Well, don't look at me. I think we should have followed France's lead and invested heavily in nuclear, like decades ago. Now there's a zero-carbon energy source that can meet America's energy needs without contributing to global warming.

But after Three Mile Island, the oil & coal industries were able to successfully demonize the nuclear power industry in the public's eye, ensuring a steady stream of profits for decades to come.

Jesus H! Its wasn't coal and gas companies who demonized nuclear energy you dishonest fuck! You know as well as I do it was the left and the lefty media. You just refuse to own up to the ramifications of your ideals and the politics of the people you support. Gas and coal companies have no problem with investing in nuclear plants. We've been trying to build a second unit at Calloway for years, but the Dems thus far have been able to block it. Its idiocy at its worst.

Tell you something else, Thomas Hill coal fired electric plant is on the kill list and nothing is being built to date to replace it.

[alismith]

The sad thing is, in 20 years when things have gotten MUCH worse with far more frequent and powerful tropical storms, coastal flooding, tornadoes, and heavy droughts, some of you will still deny what scientists have been trying to warn us about for so many years now and claim its all part of the "natural cycle."
It's ironic, because our only hope at this point (since its too late to reign in Greenhouse gas emissions), is that scientists figure out a way for us to adapt. There's already been talk about trying to figure out a way of purifying water out of Great Salt Lake. Sounds like that area of the U.S. is in for deep shit pretty soon, water-wise, so we'll either have to figure out something or many millions of people are going to have to pick up and relocate.

It IS part of the "natural cycle." Anyone can see it if they'd look at a climate change chart, showing the ups and downs of temperatures since the first Ice Age. All this started when the warm ocean currents were cut off when Central America formed. Ever since then, we've had periods of cold and periods of warm on a global scale. The warm water current that Central America cut off kept a constant supple of warm water up around the North Pole, preventing the Ice Caps from forming.

Since Central America formed and connected North America and South America, we've had periods of ice ages and warming trends in between.

IF you looked on a climate chart, you'd see a temperature line that moves up (higher temps.) and down (colder temps.). The lower temps. caused the ice ages. Now, if you'd look at where the line stops, (present day), you'd see that the line is, currently, on an upward trend (global warming). On average, there's about 15,000-20,000 years between ice ages. the line stops about 2,000 years from its estimated peak. After it reaches this peak, it starts a downward trend (global coolng).

So, science proves that global warming is a NATURAL OCCURANCE, and not a man-made one. There were few humans around during the last ice age, and all the previous ones, too, yet, the world still warmed up. Global warming doesn't need humans. We have not caused anything even related to global warming. The world's climate cycles work just fine without us.

One climatologist stated that even if humans did release all these greenhouse gases, the MOST we could ever do is make the world reach it's warming peak 2 years sooner than "average." The average time between ice ages is about 30,000 years. Our impact on the climate is minimal, at best.

So, yes, we are having global warming, but humans have nothing to do with it. Even if there were no humans on earth, the earth would still be entering a period of warming temperatures.

If you want to spend your money on idiots who claim to know about global warming solutions, that's fine, but you'd be throwing your money away.

If you'd research the first supercontinent, Rodinia, you'd see that when Rodinia formed, it cut off the warm ocean currents heading to the poles. As a result, the whole earth underwent such severe temperature drops that it led to Snowball Earth. The ice covered the whole world and the oceans froze to a depth of 1/2 mile. Only when Rodinia started breaking up, did the ice start to melt again and the world experienced more normal temperatures. As the world warmed, it underwent a global warming period that thawed most of the ice. No humans were around cause that one, either.

I hate to disappoint you, but the earth doesn't need us at all to change its climates. On a world scale, we are insignificant.

[LAGC]

It IS part of the "natural cycle."
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I hate to disappoint you, but the earth doesn't need us at all to change its climates. On a world scale, we are insignificant.

Wow, I don't know where to even begin with this. First of all, I thought you were a high school teacher? Where did you get your doctorate in climate science?

The issue isn't that Earth's climate changes. Yes, it does, but very slowly over eons of time. The issue is: why is it changing at a much faster rate NOW, over the past 50 years, than it ever has in any 50 years prior? Scientists know this by studying ice core samples taken from Antarctica, which are veritable gold mines of evidence of Earth's climate change over time.



The question you have to ask yourself is what is causing this sudden spike in temperatures compared to what it should be if only natural processes were occurring?



Do you deny that greenhouse gases trap in heat and don't let it radiate away as efficiently?

Just trying to gauge how far down the rabbit hole you've fallen, considering that the vast majority of scientists concur that human-caused activities are having a major impact.