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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    Who's saying identical? How about even similar though.
    Funny, in your last post you were arguing it should be to meet Santaya's dictum.

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    Hitler wasn't even elected, Obama won twice.
    Disingenuous.

    He was never actually elected, but he did take power legally under the laws of the then-Weimar Republic. When Hindenburg died on August 2, 1934, Hitler's cabinet passed a law transferring the power of the presidency to Hitler as both Chancellor and Führer (Leader). In mid-August a plebiscite was held, and 85% of the people voted to sustain Hitler as supreme leader of the state, people and military. Hitler could no longer be legally challenged. But he hadn't been elected per se: he'd been appointed Chancellor, then usurped the power of the presidency, and was approved in place by that 85% vote, but the fact remains (and the German voters living at the time must bear the responsibility) 85% voted to follow Hitler to their eventual Götterdamerung.
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_was_H...ted_in_Germany

    Close enough for government work...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    Right, because the conservatives never vilify liberals. Sure thing.

    Frankly he's been a whole lot more willing to work with them, then they have with him.
    Not in the fashion of scapegoating them as has been done under both Clinton and now Obama. Where's the GW version of Ruby Ridge, Waco, Cliven Bundy?

    And "Do it my way or you're obstructionists and I'll use my magic pen to circumvent you" is not working with someone. It is subverting the law.

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    Which of these have been shut down?
    Different times, different measures. The waters have been tested however.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    Oh no, law enforcement doing it's job! The IRS targets everyone. That's it's job. It's shitty, but it's the nature of the IRS. Fine they "picked on" some conservative groups, as long as those groups weren't breaking the law then no harm done. Because the IRS can do that randomly anyway. At worst this is a case of "profiling".
    At worst it's completely illegal and the orders came from the black hut. And never before has the IRS gone after the party out of power in this way...but of course for a gov't. stooge trying to sway opinion, this is just fine for you, since it harms anything and anyone that may stop you from attaining complete power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    Operation Choke point focuses on fraud, scams, etc. Yep some gun dealers, coin dealers, and prostitutes have been caught up in this also. Mostly because the banks they went through were shady as fuck.

    Most gun shops are doing fine business these days.
    Must be why the house needed to add an amendment to HR4660 to put a stop to it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    By ordinary citizens, not Obama, not the government. It's the same thing as when people on here rant about wanting to get rid of all democrats. It's hyperbole. I don't like it from either party, but some members of both do it.
    Valerie Jarret – “After We Win This Election, It’s Our Turn. Payback Time.”
    This goes to the highest levels...the queen behind the puppet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    Modern "militias" have long been watched.

    Many have stockpiled guns and talk openly about wanting to overthrow the government by force...so yeah, that's kind of a real concern. And given what some have done (McVeigh), this shouldn't come as a surprise.

    Our government has been a bit overzealous in trying to "bust" some of these groups, I won't deny that.
    Funny, they weren't target number one for 8 years, islamofacists were. Now islamofacsists are our bestest of friends, and targets are in use by the alphabet agencies of grannies and women holding children. Must be due to those evil militias, because the terrorist networks have been dismantled and are on the run, right? Oops...who's this ISIS I keep hearing about? Boko Haram? Benghazi, with Libya being used to funnel weapons to islamofacists in Syria? Yeah...it's all about those evil militia's in America who just want freedom from gov't oppression...that's the ticket.

    And isn't it interesting how the won's regime now pretty much classifies terrorists as "freedom fighters", yet somehow militias are terrorists...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    Or a rational person who sees it's not happening.
    A rational person sees the signs and puts the pieces together. A fool tries to rationalize them into "not happening". A gov't. stooge does his best to convince others it's "not happening".

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    You seem to think because I'm a Jew I should be overly aware or sensitive of it's very beginnings of happening.
    If you really are a Jew, you are just as myopic and blind as your brethren from the 1930's. Personally, I think you're something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswald Bastable View Post

    Disingenuous.

    He was never actually elected, but he did take power legally under the laws of the then-Weimar Republic. When Hindenburg died on August 2, 1934, Hitler's cabinet passed a law transferring the power of the presidency to Hitler as both Chancellor and Führer (Leader). In mid-August a plebiscite was held, and 85% of the people voted to sustain Hitler as supreme leader of the state, people and military. Hitler could no longer be legally challenged. But he hadn't been elected per se: he'd been appointed Chancellor, then usurped the power of the presidency, and was approved in place by that 85% vote, but the fact remains (and the German voters living at the time must bear the responsibility) 85% voted to follow Hitler to their eventual Götterdamerung.

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_was_H...ted_in_Germany

    Close enough for government work...
    Are you kidding me?! Is your knowledge of history that bad?

    Hitler was appointed Chancellor by the German president, whom Hitler had run against and lost.

    I know it sounds weird, but to an American "comparison" it would be like McCain winning in 08, Palin dying, and McCain appointing Obama as VP in order to gain the power necessary to do anything.

    At any rate the President was an old man who was hanging on mostly because he didn't want Hitler to rise to power. Nonetheless Hitler had been basically running things while the president was dying. He already suppressed the Brownshirts (please don't make me explain that) and the "Night of the long knives" had already happened while the president was still alive. Pretty much all dissent was already crushed, all that was left between Hitler and absolute power was the president.

    So when the president did die, Hitler made a law saying he was combining the office of Chancellor and President into one job (the Furor "supreme leader").

    The Reich Government has enacted the following law which is hereby promulgated.
    Section 1. The office of Reich President will be combined with that of Reich Chancellor. The existing authority of the Reich President will consequently be transferred to the Führer and Reich Chancellor, Adolf Hitler. He will select his deputy.
    Section 2. This law is effective as of the time of the death of Reich President von Hindenburg.
    This would be like if McCain died with Obama as his VP, Obama didn't take the presidency, but made up a new job so no election was really necessary.

    In the presidents will by the way was a letter saying he thought the country should go back to being a monarchy, with Hitler not in charge. Hitler had a document forged for the presidents will saying Hitler should do what Hitler did.

    Hitler made the military take an oath immediately stating "I swear by God this sacred oath: I will render unconditional obedience to Adolf Hitler, the Führer of the German Reich and people, Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, and will be ready as a brave soldier to risk my life at any time for this oath."


    By the way a "plebiscite" is not an election, it's a vote on a direct question. It's very easy to word them in such a way to get overwhelming support. I don't recall the exact phrasing, but the gist of the question was "Are you with Hitler?"

    He loved to phrase things in the affirmative, at time he got up to 97% yes votes on various things.

    Essentially it was theater for the international stage though, a way to legitimatize what he had illegally gained.

    In truth it might as well have said "Are you with Hitler, or a communist who wants to be shot by the armed men outside the voting booth?"



    Not in the fashion of scapegoating them as has been done under both Clinton and now Obama. Where's the GW version of Ruby Ridge, Waco, Cliven Bundy?
    That's not scapegoating. They weren't blaming the folks at Waco for the social problems of the day.



    And "Do it my way or you're obstructionists and I'll use my magic pen to circumvent you" is not working with someone. It is subverting the law.
    Every president has done that. It's called executive orders...Obama didn't invent them. They also generally have fairly limited effect.


    Different times, different measures. The waters have been tested however.
    That's awfully vague. Sorry, but this just isn't how dictators act

    At worst it's completely illegal and the orders came from the black hut. And never before has the IRS gone after the party out of power in this way...but of course for a gov't. stooge trying to sway opinion, this is just fine for you, since it harms anything and anyone that may stop you from attaining complete power.
    Horse shit, the IRS targeted the NAACP after some comments they made about Bush. They tried to revoke a liberal church's tax exempt status for protesting the war. That kind of thing is old as fuck



    Funny, they weren't target number one for 8 years, islamofacists were.
    Yeah, the militias apparently liked Bush...I'm not sure that was a good thing exactly, but at least they were quiet.
    Now islamofacsists are our bestest of friends,
    Hardly.

    And isn't it interesting how the won's regime now pretty much classifies terrorists as "freedom fighters", yet somehow militias are terrorists...
    Who killed Bin Laden again?

    Where are these domestic terrorists being detained or killed? I haven't seen any of that. The Cliven Bundy thing is as close as it got...a guy geared up when the Feds impounded his cows because he didn't pay his grazing fees. Was he killed? Imprisoned? Disappeared?

    Nope. He even got most of his cows back.

    Did he ever pay his bills BTW?

    A rational person sees the signs and puts the pieces together.
    A rational person assesses the situation and determines if there is a serious problem.

    A nutjob screams "muslim...57 states...socialist..FEMA camps" and totally ignores that basically nothing has happened, no murdering or imprisonment of dissenters, no military checkpoints every 5 miles, no annexing Poland, no declaring oneself "dictator for life".

    All there really are is a few minor gripes blown way the hell out of proportion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    Are you kidding me?! Is your knowledge of history that bad?
    Did I not say essentially all of that, in far fewer words? Or are you that inept at comprehension?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    By the way a "plebiscite" is not an election, it's a vote on a direct question. It's very easy to word them in such a way to get overwhelming support. I don't recall the exact phrasing, but the gist of the question was "Are you with Hitler?"
    Yes, today we call them referendums...like those opposing illegal immigration, or same sex marriage, etc., placed on state and local elections yearly. In this case, 85% of Germans nationally said "yuppers...we want this nutjob in charge" If you can describe, in detail, how this is genuinely different from being elected, your powers of rationalization and dementia are far greater than mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    Essentially it was theater for the international stage though, a way to legitimatize what he had illegally gained.
    And you want us to believe that none of the multitude of bad decisions, backpedaling, obfuscation, stonewalling, refusal to release documents, claiming executive authority or national security...involved in all the scandals of the last 6 years, are not complete theater...for both the American and international stage?

    The Kool-Aid is strong in you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    That's not scapegoating. They weren't blaming the folks at Waco for the social problems of the day.
    No, of course not...blaming the 2nd and the innocent and law abiding for all the problems of gun violence is of course not scapegoating. Blaming them for Newtown is of course, not scapegoating. Placing blame where it doesn't belong, is never scapegoating...

    But hey...they're not blaming Jews this time, so you go on and party!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    Every president has done that. It's called executive orders...Obama didn't invent them. They also generally have fairly limited effect.
    And none before has ever attempted to bypass or usurp the role of congress the way this (I use the word loosely) man has...apart from FDR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    That's awfully vague. Sorry, but this just isn't how dictators act.
    No, it's the work of pre-dictators, before they solidify power. And understand I know 0bama is just a sock puppet...he will likely be living the high life in a secure compound when all of this comes to fruition. It's not him, specifically, I worry about...he's an idiot of supreme proportions. But your defense of him in particular, and failure to take in the bigger picture (actually I know you're well aware of that picture, which is why you drive so hard to divert), is telling.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    Horse shit, the IRS targeted the NAACP after some comments they made about Bush. They tried to revoke a liberal church's tax exempt status for protesting the war. That kind of thing is old as fuck
    So where were the congressional hearings on that? And let's see here...two organizations, as opposed to hundreds of conservative ones targeted under zero...no disparity there, right? Just business as usual? No targeting of a specific belief system or political affiliation involved here, right? You present two completely irrelevant IRS investigations and equate them with the systematic targeting of conservative groups, and call that business as usual.

    Do you believe Jews (if you are one) will survive this pogrom? Wait, you aren't one...you're a gov't plant...never mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    Yeah, the militias apparently liked Bush...I'm not sure that was a good thing exactly, but at least they were quiet.
    Imagine that...constitutionalists less upset with a gov't that follows the constitution more than the leftist piece of shits who came before...who'd a thunk it. Seems an easy recipe for keeping internal dissent down...you know, follow the law of the land? And so you make my point about this regime...they can't and won't follow the law of the land, so of course they must scapegoat and attack the right, because they know they are breaking the law of the land. And that should cause you to fear them...yet, you defend them at every turn and at all costs...

    Now why is that, I wonder?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    Who killed Bin Laden again?
    Do we actually know? Is he dead? We have some political theater, but no pictures, no DNA, just the word of this corrupt gov't...like the word that life is grand at the end of that box car ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswald Bastable View Post
    Did I not say essentially all of that, in far fewer words? Or are you that inept at comprehension?

    Yes, today we call them referendums...like those opposing illegal immigration, or same sex marriage, etc., placed on state and local elections yearly. In this case, 85% of Germans nationally said "yuppers...we want this nutjob in charge" If you can describe, in detail, how this is genuinely different from being elected, your powers of rationalization and dementia are far greater than mine.
    It's genuinely different from being freely elected because political opposition had already been suppressed. It's essentially walking people behind a curtain and saying "You aren't going to cause trouble are you?" while cocking a gun.



    And you want us to believe that none of the multitude of bad decisions, backpedaling, obfuscation, stonewalling, refusal to release documents, claiming executive authority or national security...involved in all the scandals of the last 6 years, are not complete theater...for both the American and international stage?
    There is a huge difference from being bad at your job and making poor decisions and being a dictator. All presidents claim executive authority and national security to hide things. Bush had secret prisons in Europe where people got interrogated enhancedly.





    No, of course not...blaming the 2nd and the innocent and law abiding for all the problems of gun violence is of course not scapegoating. Blaming them for Newtown is of course, not scapegoating. Placing blame where it doesn't belong, is never scapegoating...
    I'm talking about Waco and the like...were they scapegoated? Nope.

    Nor frankly do I really see the average law abiding gun owner as being scapegoated. Yes, some people blame the NRA for pushing what they believe are too lenient gun laws. A very few might go so far as to say the NRA has "blood on it's hands" over it. But targeting the average gun owner. Nope, haven't seen that.


    But hey...they're not blaming Jews this time, so you go on and party!
    I'm a gun owner also.


    And none before has ever attempted to bypass or usurp the role of congress the way this (I use the word loosely) man has...apart from FDR.
    Horseshit. Frankly, Obama has been using less Executive orders than most modern presidents. It's still up there, at about 180. Bush went up to 291, Reagan 381, Clinton 364.

    Obviously though this is a content over quantity issue. If you'd like to go through Obama's, here they are...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...3489_and_above

    Nothing out of the ordinary or nefarious jumps out at me...but have a look for yourself.

    No, it's the work of pre-dictators, before they solidify power. And understand I know 0bama is just a sock puppet...he will likely be living the high life in a secure compound when all of this comes to fruition. It's not him, specifically, I worry about...he's an idiot of supreme proportions. But your defense of him in particular, and failure to take in the bigger picture (actually I know you're well aware of that picture, which is why you drive so hard to divert), is telling.
    A pre-dictator? Is that like a potential dictator, in the way that every person with a penis is a "potential rapist"

    Lets be honest, it's the way most people in general act and the way most presidents act when someone is trying to stymie their efforts. They try to do it again, or find another way to do it, or they find another way to "kind of" get what they want to some extent.

    When Bush had Powell go to the UN to try to get a war going against Iraq and failed to convince them, did he give up? No, he formed a "coalition of the willing", and invaded Iraq anyway.

    When Obama failed to get gun laws passed after Newtown did he just give up? No, he formed a committee to study the issue!


    So where were the congressional hearings on that?
    There weren't any. Why not, because Democrats understand that what comes around goes around. Why make big accusations that will end with nothing, when you can simply wait your turn and have your own fun with the system?



    Do you believe Jews (if you are one) will survive this pogrom?
    What pogrom? I don't see us being rounded up.

    Yeah, the Democrat party has moved a fair bit away from Israel. Still overall supportive, but more critical than it used to be.

    But Obama rounding up people...nope, hasn't happened.



    Imagine that...constitutionalists less upset with a gov't that follows the constitution more than the leftist piece of shits who came before...who'd a thunk it. Seems an easy recipe for keeping internal dissent down...you know, follow the law of the land?
    Yeah, because Bush never bent the constitution and there was no internal dissent during his presidency. That's hilarious. Guessed you missed the protesting, patriot act, and tazing of people in town hall meeting for asking questions.

    And so you make my point about this regime...they can't and won't follow the law of the land, so of course they must scapegoat and attack the right, because they know they are breaking the law of the land. And that should cause you to fear them...yet, you defend them at every turn and at all costs...
    The law has been mostly followed, a few stretches, nothing all that unusual actually. I really don't see much scapegoating going on, just the usual partisan politics from the left, and a whole lot more batshit crazy from the right.

    Nor do I defend them at all costs. There is a wide gap between being reasonably critical and calling someone a dictator, traitor, yada, yada



    Do we actually know? Is he dead? We have some political theater, but no pictures, no DNA, just the word of this corrupt gov't...like the word that life is grand at the end of that box car ride.
    Really? That's the point you want to end on?

    This....


    is about all that deserves.

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    Oswald, it's a lost cause but good try. He'll defend his King/ employer even when they are kicking down the doors of citizens that happen to own guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    Oswald, it's a lost cause but good try. He'll defend his King/ employer even when they are kicking down the doors of citizens that happen to own guns.
    I'm merely defending against wacky hyperbole...it's been 6 years...where is this kicking down of doors?

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    Oswald I decided to change sides. Kadmos is right! His King has a long list of accomplishments.
    First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.

    First President to have a social security number belonging to another man, from a state he has never lived in.

    First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.

    First President to violate the War Powers Act.

    First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

    First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.

    First President to spend a trillion dollars on "shovel-ready" jobs when there was no such thing as "shovel-ready" jobs.* * * *

    First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.

    First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.

    First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. including those with criminal convictions.

    First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.

    First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.

    First President to terminate America’s ability to put a man in space.

    First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.

    First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.

    First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.

    First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke out on the reasons for their rate increases.

    First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.

    First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).

    First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.

    First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).

    First President to fire an inspector general of AmeriCorps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.

    First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.

    First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.

    First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 102 to date.

    First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.

    First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.

    First President to go on multiple "global apology tours" and concurrent "insult our friends" tours.

    First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayers.

    First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.

    First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.* * * *

    First President to fly in a personal trainer from Chicago at least once a week at taxpayer expense.* * * *

    First President to repeat the Holy Quran & tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.

    First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they "volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences."

    Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.* * * *

    First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs. Arizona).

    BTW KAdmos anytime you'd like to come clean about who you really are, will just be peachy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    Oswald I decided to change sides. Kadmos is right! His King has a long list of accomplishments.
    I'm not talking about his "accomplishments", I'm talking about whether or not the man is a dictator.

    I'm not seeing anything on that list about crushing dissent, imprisoning the opposition, kicking in doors, or creating concentration camps or mass graves.



    Out of curiosity though, do you have a link for that list, I'm wondering if it has references, or if it's mostly just spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post
    I'm not talking about his "accomplishments", I'm talking about whether or not the man is a dictator.

    I'm not seeing anything on that list about crushing dissent, imprisoning the opposition, kicking in doors, or creating concentration camps or mass graves.



    Out of curiosity though, do you have a link for that list, I'm wondering if it has references, or if it's mostly just spin.
    Uh what do you think the IRS was doing on his orders? Crushing dissent, preventing free speech during an election. What do you think The ATF is doing copying mass quantities of 4473's (AGAINST THE LAW, your King doesn't think any of HIS gov't has to follow), do you think they are doing it for fun, or preparing? I'd love to see you cockamamie explaination for these.... Closing down only the GM dealerships that donated to someone else.....He regularly uses parts of the gov't illegally as a TYRANT to stamp out any and all opposition. The guy even is stifling the press under threat! All fine by you, because he's a marxist, right up your alley. Fast and Furous...... How much does it take for you to see this administration is the most evil ever in the history of the US. Nixon was a piker when it comes to corrupt and breaking the law. But you and your media have a million and one excuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadmos View Post




    or if it's mostly just spin.
    That's all you've done defending your breatheren 24/7

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    Uh what do you think the IRS was doing on his orders? Crushing dissent, preventing free speech during an election.
    Like I said before, that's business as usual. Bush did the same. Nor is it "crushing dissent", at most it's mildly annoying political opponents.

    What do you think The ATF is doing copying mass quantities of 4473's (AGAINST THE LAW, your King doesn't think any of HIS gov't has to follow), do you think they are doing it for fun, or preparing?
    My understanding is that this has been done at some shops, those suspected of high numbers of straw purchasers. Nor is it necessarily against the law, the ATF is allowed to demand access to those records.


    Closing down only the GM dealerships that donated to someone else
    Chrysler announced the planned closing of 789 dealerships back February 2008, months before Obama was even nominated, but they didn't make the actual list public for another year.

    But as it turns out, car dealers simply tend to be Republicans...not really surprising, which was why republican car dealerships were overrepresented compared to the national average of the voting population in general.



    .....He regularly uses parts of the gov't illegally as a TYRANT to stamp out any and all opposition.
    Like I said, Fox news is doing fine. We aren't seeing conservative rallies being busted up with tear gas and rubber bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    That's all you've done defending your breatheren 24/7
    As it turns out, it was mostly spin
    http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...eport-card.htm


    Seriously, you guys are screaming TYRANT 24/7.....well, where the hell is it? A few more republican owned car dealerships got downsized in a bankruptcy? The IRS picks a few extra conservatives to audit?

    That's it? That's the best evidence you have? Where are the disappeared political opponents, the mass round ups, the restriction of movement?

    Lamest tyranny ever! No impalement of 20,000 enemies on wooden spikes.

    The guy hasn't even managed to get the 2% tax increase on the very wealthy that he campaigned on!

    Hitler would have sent SS to their houses, had them dragged out back and shot, and simply took their stuff.

    Am I actually wrong here? And if so, in what way?

    Sorry, but this guy isn't just not a tryant, he's one of our least effective and most effectively powerless presidents ever.

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    Looks like LAGC was right, GOP signs McCarthy!

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...ouse-gop-no-2/

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    Quote Originally Posted by imanaknut View Post
    Looks like LAGC was right, GOP signs McCarthy!

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...ouse-gop-no-2/
    This move will help the Republicans in November, as more independents jump on board. I'm sure they'll take the Senate now.

    The only question is whether a unified, Republican congress will be more likely to work with the president on common causes.

    We shall see.
    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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