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    “A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty.”

    In addition to Kenny’s reasons for shutting down the DHS, Whitehead adds the following indictments:

    “Militarizing police and SWAT teams. The DHS routinely hands out six-figure grants to enable local municipalities to purchase military-style vehicles, as well as a veritable war chest of weaponry, ranging from tactical vests, bomb-disarming robots, assault weapons and combat uniforms. This rise in military equipment purchases funded by the DHS has, according to analysts Andrew Becker and G.W. Schulz, ‘paralleled an apparent increase in local SWAT teams.’ The end result? An explosive growth in the use of SWAT teams for otherwise routine police matters, an increased tendency on the part of police to shoot first and ask questions later, and an overall mindset within police forces that they are at war--and the citizenry are the enemy combatants.

    “Stockpiling ammunition. DHS, along with other government agencies, has been stockpiling an alarming amount of ammunition in recent years, which only adds to the discomfort of those already leery of the government. As of 2013, DHS had 260 million rounds of ammo in stock, which averages out to between 1,300 to 1,600 rounds per officer. The US Army, in contrast, has roughly 350 rounds per soldier. DHS has since requisitioned more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammo, ‘enough,’ concludes Forbes magazine, ‘to sustain a hot war for 20+ years.’

    “Distributing license plate readers. DHS has already distributed more than $50 million in grants to enable local police agencies to acquire license plate readers, which rely on mobile cameras to photograph and identify cars, match them against a national database, and track their movements. Relying on private contractors to maintain a license plate database allows the DHS and its affiliates to access millions of records without much in the way of oversight.

    “Contracting to build detention camps. In 2006, DHS awarded a $385 million contract to a Halliburton subsidiary to build detention centers on American soil. Although the government and Halliburton were not forthcoming about where or when these domestic detention centers would be built, they rationalized the need for them in case of ‘an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs’ in the event of other emergencies such as ‘natural disasters.’ Viewed in conjunction with the NDAA provision allowing the military to arrest and indefinitely detain anyone, including American citizens, it would seem the building blocks are already in place for such an eventuality.

    “Tracking cell-phones with Stingray devices. Distributed to local police agencies as a result of grants from the DHS, these Stingray devices enable police to track individuals’ cell phones--and their owners--without a court warrant or court order. The amount of information conveyed by these devices about one’s activities, whereabouts and interactions is considerable. As one attorney explained: ‘Because we carry our cellphones with us virtually everywhere we go, stingrays can paint a precise picture of where we are and who we spend time with, including our location in a lover’s house, in a psychologist’s office or at a political protest.’

    “Carrying out military drills and lockdowns in American cities. Each year, DHS funds military-style training drills in cities across the country. These Urban Shield exercises, elaborately staged with their own set of professionally trained Crisis Actors playing the parts of shooters, bystanders and victims, fool law enforcement officials, students, teachers, bystanders and the media into thinking it’s a real crisis.

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    Even if 1/10 of this is true, we are living in scary times....
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    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    Why does the cop, in the foreground, have the "gangsta hold" on the AR15? Is he "profiling" for the driver or is there a valid reason for this hold?

    p.s. I love the donut-king cop in the background...he adds character to the whole scenario...kind of gives one the warm, fuzzy feeling about the whole thing....
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    Posse comitatus does not apply to the DHS

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    All a sitting president has to do is start a couple more bullshit wars overseas, ship most of the active duty troops away from home so they can't be here to defend it, then consolidate power through the heavily-armed DHS acting against a helpless civilian populace-- Oh, wait...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROBASCO View Post
    Posse comitatus does not apply to the DHS
    I don't know how that can be, but be that as it may, the constitution is still in effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post



    ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????? The fucking cop is pointing an AR in the guy's face?

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    [QUOTE=5.56NATO;374828]


    That would really piss me off as it violates two primary gun safety rules. One, never point a gun at anything you don't intend to shoot/keep your muzzle pointed in a safe direction at all times and two, don't ever pull a gun on a person unless you intend to shoot them.

    I understand officer safety is important but pointing a gun at someone who is a non threat is fucking bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    Reminds me of the old trick we played on some people by plugging up the tailpipe with a banana or a potato. Jam a tater on the end of that barrel and that AR is inoperable - - unless you want it to blow up in your face!
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    As wars wind down, small-town cops inherit armored vehicles

    Hundreds of counties have MRAPs—and more are on their way

    Robert Shellmyer was relieved to see last week at his hometown’s 175th anniversary celebration that the local police department’s new prized possession was not driving alongside the tractors and floats in the parade.

    That’s because a 45,000 pound, explosion-resistant vehicle from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan might spoil the mood.

    Shellmyer, a 78-year-old city councilman for the small town of Washington, Iowa, was the sole local politician to vote against the department of 12 police officers getting the free MRAP—short for mine resistant ambush protected vehicle—from the Defense Department two months ago. Washington is one of hundreds of towns and cities to get a recycled MRAP from the Pentagon over the past year and a half.

    “Here’s the thing,” Shellmyer says. “Washington, Iowa has 8,000 people. We have an MRAP now. We have a SWAT team. We have [police] dogs, and we have a SWAT team transportation vehicle that’s not armored.”

    The city councilman began to think: “Goodness, this is overkill.”






    “There’s been a real steady increase in police stations taking advantage of this,” said Mark Wright, a Defense Department spokesman. “It’s a heck of a good deal… ‘Here’s the MRAP free of charge. You’ve got to pay for maintenance and gas, but other than that we’ll take care of the rest.’”
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    Does your county have an MRAP?

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    A full list of the 600 MRAPs that have been given by the Pentagon to counties in almost every state so far. Counties that are listed more than once received multiple armored vehicles. This list is accurate as of June 13, 2014.
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/231044034/...y-have-an-MRAP
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    In addition to Kenny’s reasons for shutting down the DHS, Whitehead adds the following indictments:

    “Militarizing police and SWAT teams. The DHS routinely hands out six-figure grants to enable local municipalities to purchase military-style vehicles, as well as a veritable war chest of weaponry, ranging from tactical vests, bomb-disarming robots, assault weapons and combat uniforms. This rise in military equipment purchases funded by the DHS has, according to analysts Andrew Becker and G.W. Schulz, ‘paralleled an apparent increase in local SWAT teams.’ The end result? An explosive growth in the use of SWAT teams for otherwise routine police matters, an increased tendency on the part of police to shoot first and ask questions later, and an overall mindset within police forces that they are at war--and the citizenry are the enemy combatants.
    This has happened before. Instead of "SWAT", the group was called the "Waffen-SS".
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