A "New" bullpup rifle is coming out...

**Partisan1983** · 06-29-2014, 07:34 AM

For you bullpup lovers out there....

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/06/25...7s556-bullpup/

**raxar** · 06-29-2014, 07:44 AM

Let me guess, where as the old one cost $600 the new one will cost $1600

**skorpion** · 06-29-2014, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by raxar

Let me guess, where as the old one cost $600 the new one will cost $1600

Close. $1800.

$1500+ seems like the new going rate for S/A rifles anymore. Besides AKs and run-of-the-mill ARs.

**Schuetzenman** · 06-29-2014, 08:53 AM

Yawn! Well that's one I won't be running out to purchase.

**Avanarts** · 06-29-2014, 11:52 AM

I have yet to find a bullpup that appeals to me. The pull (distance from butt to trigger) always seems to be excessively long and the balance is off, or at least strange.

**Silentkilla01** · 06-29-2014, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Avanarts

I have yet to find a bullpup that appeals to me. The pull (distance from butt to trigger) always seems to be excessively long and the balance is off, or at least strange.

^^^this

**FunkyPertwee** · 06-29-2014, 12:58 PM

Mine cost $600 at a gun show in 2003.

If I want to upgrade I'll either buy the rail sections for it or just get a Tavor.

**imanaknut** · 06-29-2014, 03:56 PM

Nothing like taking an old but proven design and making it more expensive, like nearly three times the final cost of the original.

Bullpups are strange weapons that do take getting used to. Many people look at the Steyr AUG or USR and talk about how strange it looks, and how tail heavy it feels, that is until they shoulder it and find it just about becomes a part of you and points naturally. The FHN P90 and the new second amendment approved PS90 are the same way, strange looking, and in this bullpup strange to figure out how to even hold it, but once you have it shouldered, it is a perfect close quarter weapon.

The problem with the old Bushmaster M17S is that it is heavy and gets really hot in summer time in the sun shooting. Part of the heat is that it blows the exhaust used to start piston travel into the front of the receiver, right where you hold it. It is heavy because it uses a 21 inch heavy barrel in a fully enclosed steel receiver designed to dampen harmonics and allow really good accuracy.

Of course bragging that you took the light plastic parts out and replaced them with aluminum sounds nice, but unless the whole receiver becomes aluminum replacing the steel, it should make it even heavier.

**Helen Keller** · 06-29-2014, 04:04 PM

fuck that..

If you shop around you can get a tavor for $1600 .. or just spend a little more and get a new AUG.

I'm saving up for one of these.

http://www.dsarms.com/p-13277-ds-arm...buttstock.aspx

**FunkyPertwee** · 06-29-2014, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Helen Keller

I'm saving up for one of these.

http://www.dsarms.com/p-13277-ds-arm...buttstock.aspx

Not bad.

I didn't know they made FALs for less than $1000 these days.

The PTR series has my attention for a cost effective MBR. They kind of fuck up the brass from I understand though. I know my old CETME chewed them up.

**vit** · 06-29-2014, 09:45 PM

Bullpups have come a long way, even wrong handed people friendly. I handled an FS2000 and it felt great. Wouldn't mind one myself. But this? I don't think so.

**Starvin** · 07-01-2014, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by FunkyPertwee

Not bad.

I didn't know they made FALs for less than $1000 these days.

DSA's Voyager line cuts costs by using a cast receiver. I'll pass.

Back on subject, kudos to any company that want's to offer a "new" rifle but the bushmaster was never all that impressive and this doesn't seem to really add too much to the design. Personally I'm eagerly waiting for the new Desert Tech (DTA) MDR. It has tremendous potential.

**l921428x** · 07-02-2014, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Helen Keller

fuck that..

If you shop around you can get a tavor for $1600 .. or just spend a little more and get a new AUG.

I'm saving up for one of these.

http://www.dsarms.com/p-13277-ds-arm...buttstock.aspx

weight 17 pounds?

**Schuetzenman** · 07-03-2014, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by l921428x

weight 17 pounds?

SPECIFICATIONS:
Overall length 44"
Overall weight 9.75 lbs
Sights radius 22"
Length of pull 14.25"

was_peacemaker · 07-03-2014, 06:58 AM

It looks like a poor mans generation one FAMAS.

**Helen Keller** · 07-03-2014, 08:38 AM

DSA's Voyager line cuts costs by using a cast receiver. I'll pass.

So it's basically like buying a $900 century fal.. I'll pass.

**O.S.O.K.** · 07-03-2014, 10:59 AM

I can buy three M-4geries for the same price. And I see no real advantage to this carbine. In fact, I see a lot of disadvantages.

Del-ton is running a July special - A-3 upper, standard M4 furniture, standard guts, M-4 feed ramps, chrome-lined 14 3/4", 1x7 twist barrel with pinned A-2 flash hider. $460. Add to my $100 receiver, $560.

**Silentkilla01** · 07-03-2014, 11:28 AM

Where is a good place to get a stripped lower and the parts for it cheap but good parts? And just how hard is it to put a lowers internals in? I've never done it.

**FunkyPertwee** · 07-03-2014, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Silentkilla01

Where is a good place to get a stripped lower and the parts for it cheap but good parts? And just how hard is it to put a lowers internals in? I've never done it.

Palmetto State Armory.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php