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    The militarization of America’s police

    How heavily armed are the police?
    Many small-town police departments now boast the same weaponry once wielded by U.S. military units in Afghanistan — including tanks with 360-degree rotating turrets, battering rams, and automatic weapons. Those weapons are today deployed against Americans suspected of crimes in their own homes. Every day, Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) teams connected to local police conduct 124 paramilitary-style raids in the U.S., according to a new report by the American Civil Liberties Union. One of them recently drew national attention when a SWAT team in Atlanta burst into a private home and threw a live flash grenade into a 2-year-old's crib, severely injuring the toddler. Most raids by SWAT teams are conducted against suspected drug dealers, but they've also been deployed against a private poker game; a gay bar in Atlanta; a New Haven, Connecticut, bar suspected of serving minors; and even people suspected of credit card fraud. "Neighborhoods are not war zones," says the ACLU in its report, "and our police officers should not be treating us like wartime enemies."



    And some interesting dollar figures;

    How do police get military equipment?
    In recent years, the Department of Homeland Security has provided $35 billion to local police throughout the country to help buy weapons for "the war on terror." The rest can be traced to the Pentagon, which has off-loaded $4.2 billion of surplus armored vehicles, rifles, and equipment to police departments as the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have wound down. Cash-strapped police departments obtain these weapons for free; all they have to do is pay for the shipping. SWAT teams have obtained tens of thousands of machine guns, night-vision goggles, silencers, armed helicopters, and armored vehicles. The Utah Highway Patrol, for example, owns a 55,000-pound, mine-resistant ambush-protected vehicle, or MRAP, complete with a gunner's turret. "I can drive this thing right through the middle of a gunfight," said Highway Patrol Lt. Alex Lepley.


    Are SWAT tactics an overreaction?
    In many cases, yes. Of the 124 SWAT raids conducted daily, only 7 percent meet the original LAPD criteria. About 62 percent of the raids are mounted to conduct drug searches — many of them based on tips from unreliable informants. Most are undertaken to investigate nonviolent offenses. In Orlando in 2010, for example, heavily armed SWAT teams raided nine barbershops and arrested 34 people for "barbering without a license." Adrenalin-fueled SWAT teams have often been accused of overexuberance: In 2011, an Arizona paramilitary police unit riding in military vehicles — including a tank driven by special deputy and action movie star Steven Seagal — drove straight into the living room of an unarmed man suspected of staging cockfights. Such "no-knock" operations are now commonplace — often with tragic consequences.
    http://theweek.com/article/index/265...mericas-police





    This remionds me of reforger (return of forces to Germany), where all the assets needed to fight the Russians is predeployed in Germany. Abrams, Bradleys, mraps, you name it, it's there. All they have to do is fly the crews and troops to Germany and it's on. But in this case it's not there, it's here since the predeployed assets have been carefully smuggled right into our neighborhoods.


    So thousands of mraps, billions of rounds, what are they prepping for?
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    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    So thousands of mraps, billions of rounds, what are they prepping for?
    "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

    I'll leave it to you to figure out which one.

    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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    They just want to protect your rights.
    "I'm fucking furious, I'm violently angry, and I like it. If you don't know what that feels like then I feel bad for you"

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    Once the shit hits the fan they will abandon their posts just like the brave blue did in New Orleans after Katrina.



    Try riding like that through a real SHTF scenario...
    FBHO

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    This shit has gotten out of hand and someone needs to do something about it. The police don't need that shit. Ok I can see there point in the city of Chicago or Compton but anywhere else I just don't see the point.
    What's up my nigga's

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    I don't have a problem with the equipment but how often and under what circumstances it's used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

    I'll leave it to you to figure out which one.

    Are you unhappy with how your socialist revolution is coming true?

    It's the same way it's come to be in each and every time it's been tried...
    If we refuse to rule ourselves with reason, then we shall be ruled by our passions.

    He, Who Will Not Reason, Is a Bigot; He, Who Cannot, Is a Fool; and He, Who Dares Not, Is a Slave. -Sir William Drummond

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswald Bastable View Post
    Are you unhappy with how your socialist revolution is coming true?

    It's the same way it's come to be in each and every time it's been tried...
    Come on man, America is like a whore who knows she needs it, but is scared to get it cause of what people will say.
    Just remember, all the cool countries do it...
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    The left is going to win guys. This is THEM. What was that 1980's tv series about the family that comes back to America and finds the bill of rights has been thrown out? This stuff is starting to remind me of that.
    "What sick, barbaric bastards.

    It's one thing to use terrorism to make a political statement, but the wanton mutilation and suffering of innocents? How does that forward your political goals? When done in the name of religion, how does that earn you brownie points with God?

    Fuck religious extremism. And especially fuck the "religion of peace." "

    So, lagcsocialist supports terrorism AS LONG AS ITS FOR POLITICAL ENDS....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiak47 View Post
    Once the shit hits the fan they will abandon their posts just like the brave blue did in New Orleans after Katrina.



    Try riding like that through a real SHTF scenario...
    where the hell is that? look at all the trash on the street!
    While no one ever listens to me,
    I am constantly being told to be quiet.

    In a world of snowflakes,
    be the heat..

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    Quote Originally Posted by l921428x View Post
    where the hell is that? look at all the trash on the street!
    Those are people!

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    Each county having a SWAT team...I get it. Every local PD having one...no way. Every cop in every department being issued rifles and helmets and army gear like they are in an infantry platoon - hell no!

    Also, the main thing is when they are deployed. LAPD had the first SWAT team in the US and, as stated above, the standards for deploying it were strict. Now, every time there are police there is a mech infantry platoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l921428x View Post
    where the hell is that? look at all the trash on the street!
    Just another day in New Orleans...
    FBHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by l921428x View Post
    where the hell is that? look at all the trash on the street!
    You would think Mogadishu or Port au Prince, but it's NOLA, USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyPertwee View Post



    They just want to protect your rights.
    More like anti free speech unit;







    to protect and serve
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    More like anti free speech unit;







    to protect and serve
    nothing a backhoe or front end loader can't take care of.

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    Here's some more details.

    Machine Guns for Country Cops – 161 Federal Guns for 31 Officers
    http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/07/23...kly+Newsletter
    “I have little patience with people who take the Bill of Rights for granted. The Bill of Rights, contained in the first ten amendments to the Constitution, is every American’s guarantee of freedom.” - - President Harry S. Truman, “Years of Trial and Hope”

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTHunter View Post
    Here's some more details.

    Machine Guns for Country Cops – 161 Federal Guns for 31 Officers
    http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/07/23...kly+Newsletter
    I wouldn't mind as long as citizens could own the same weapons.
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    OPD scores pricey heavily armored Caiman for $2k

    Children sit on the Ocala Police Department SWAT unit's new Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle during the Cops, Kids and Firefighters event at the Martin Luther King Jr. Recreation Complex on west Silver Springs Boulevard in Ocala, Fla. on Friday, July 18, 2014. Ocala Fire Rescue, the Ocala Police Department, the Florida Department of Corrections, the Marion CountyÇÆ'Ă™s SheriffÇÆ'Ă™s Office, the Florida Highway Patrol, in addition to Ocala Recreation and Parks and other agencies, participated in the event where public safety officers entertained and educated children in a fun and approachable environment.
    http://www.ocala.com/article/2014072...CLES/140729896
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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