Any SAA Fans?

[Richard Simmons]

Any members into the old west style SAA? I've got a Ruger SBH in .44mag with a 10.5" bull barrel and that's it as far as "Cowboy guns" goes. Been eyeing a Ruger Blackhawk in 45C/45ACP, blued with 4 5/8" bbl. Also thought about some of the Italian clones but wasn't sure on who makes a good one in so far as quality goes and or staying true to the original 1873 design? Don't have any firearms in 45 colt so I'm leaning more towards a 45C/45ACP convertible like the Ruger or something in .38/357.

[FunkyPertwee]

The Uberti clones that get imported by Taylor's & Co. are supposed to have better quality control than the other Colt clones.

The Taylor's & Co. catalog will tempt you into spending a lot of money on 19'th century firearms copies.

[Partisan1983]

I have always wanted to pick up a few Uberti's.

Just for shits and giggles

[Richard Simmons]

I've also considered the Ruger Vaquero. Have either of you handled a Bisley version of anything? IIRC some magazine articles said the Bisley grip makes recoil more manageable. That may be but I'm not sure I care for the way it looks. The grip has such an odd angle to it.

[alismith]

I have SAA in .22 LR/Mag, .44 Mag, and .45 LC. I love them all. All of them are Rugers. I favor the .45 LC most as it is powerful, milder recoil, and accurate.

I never cared for the Bisley grip as it just didn't feel right in my hand. The angle was wrong for me. But, I've known a few people who really like them. It's just a matter of preference and "feel."

[Partisan1983]

I have fondled a Bisley, but have never shot one.

It just didn't feel right to me

[Full Otto]

Picked up this Pietta 1858 a few weeks ago



Was black powder from Cabels but it's now got the Kirst gated conversion cylinder
Went with the 45lc since I already had a Uberti golden boy

I've read Uberti is pretty much the same gun as Pietta but take it a step or two further to improve the finishes
Got my eye on a simple holster hope to get it pretty soon

[FunkyPertwee]

http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/cartr...del-frame.html

[weevil]

Old model Ruger Vaquero in .45 Colt.




And a Single-Six



Couple of Italian black-powder revolvers too but no pics.

[Goodman]

Ubertis are decent quality for a replica but they're far from great. The action is just a little stiff IMHO. I had a recent manufacture Colt SAA but I believe it was made by a third party. More expensive than Uberti and better feel/action, though it was not nearly as nice as an old original SAA. I was lucky enough to handle an original nickel Colt and damn- it was like butter. Smooth as silk!
My favorite in replicas was my Navy Arms Schofield. It may still be in the for sale page here. Loved it, but something had to give. That top-break and ejector just does it for me.
As to caliber, there's only one for the old guns- but it sucks having yet ANOTHER kind of ammo. Otoh you can get cowboy-action loads if you want don't want to deal with a full .45 load but still want authenticity

[FunkyPertwee]

Ubertis are decent quality for a replica but they're far from great. The action is just a little stiff IMHO. I had a recent manufacture Colt SAA but I believe it was made by a third party. More expensive than Uberti and better feel/action, though it was not nearly as nice as an old original SAA. I was lucky enough to handle an original nickel Colt and damn- it was like butter. Smooth as silk!
My favorite in replicas was my Navy Arms Schofield. It may still be in the for sale page here. Loved it, but something had to give. That top-break and ejector just does it for me.
As to caliber, there's only one for the old guns- but it sucks having yet ANOTHER kind of ammo. Otoh you can get cowboy-action loads if you want don't want to deal with a full .45 load but still want authenticity

Colt has been receiving unfinished parts from Uberti and doing the final fitting, assembly, and finishing in their New York plant. (AFAIK)

[Goodman]

Colt has been receiving unfinished parts from Uberti and doing the final fitting, assembly, and finishing in their New York plant. (AFAIK)

Just remembered- it was a 'Cowboy' model which was definitely outsourced and not as nice as the SAAs.
To go back to the OP, sometime back I knew a cowboy action shooter that lined me out on the basics of CAS. There may be some good discussion on replica weapons on the Single Action Shooting Society web page sassnet.org

[NAPOTS]

Ubertis are decent quality for a replica but they're far from great. The action is just a little stiff IMHO. I had a recent manufacture Colt SAA but I believe it was made by a third party. More expensive than Uberti and better feel/action, though it was not nearly as nice as an old original SAA. I was lucky enough to handle an original nickel Colt and damn- it was like butter. Smooth as silk!
My favorite in replicas was my Navy Arms Schofield. It may still be in the for sale page here. Loved it, but something had to give. That top-break and ejector just does it for me.
As to caliber, there's only one for the old guns- but it sucks having yet ANOTHER kind of ammo. Otoh you can get cowboy-action loads if you want don't want to deal with a full .45 load but still want authenticity

Keep in mind that original has been fired lots of times smoothing everything out.

[Goodman]

Keep in mind that original has been fired lots of times smoothing everything out.

Yes probably so, but it was in amazing condition so I'm inclined to believe the original manufacture was very close tolerance.
It was not loose at all. Little if any holster wear and just a little barrel pitting. It was amazing considering it was (then) over 130 years old

[Schuetzenman]

Nice looking pieces. Congrats guys.

[Richard Simmons]

As mentioned above I've been considering getting a Ruger Blackhawk convertible in 45C/45ACP. Does anyone have a convertible Blackhawk in either 45C/45ACP or 357/9mm? Wondering how much difference there is in accuracy there is between the different calibers. Though I'd include the .357/9mm since I have actually run across those in the used gun section of some of my local gun shops.

[Schuetzenman]

That is a good question. .45 ACP is .451" and .45 LC is .452 or slightly larger isn't it?

[Richard Simmons]

That is a good question. .45 ACP is .451" and .45 LC is .452 or slightly larger isn't it?

I need to dig out some reloading manuals but according to Wikipedia the 45 Colt is .454 lead and .452 jacketed. 45 ACP are listed at .452 and .451 for plated, .452 jacketed, .452 cast.. Depending on what the Ruger is bored at they might shoot fairly similar with plated/jacketed bullets.