i think we should bring back the draft

[l921428x]

Do not forget that Nixon also opened china for business. LBJ gave us the war on poverty. 22 trillion spent since the middle 60's. 6% poverty at the time, 43% now. was FDR a democrat?

[Ruskiegunlover]

I was simply adding to the discussion. I actually agree with you. I feel we would be stronger as a country if we drafted and trained more young men especially. Allow the drill sgt's to beat the shit out of them again, and maybe we can drill some respect and maturity into SOME of them. I teach a lot of truly wonderful kids of all races, but there is a percent that are excuse factories that WANT to be victims.

[l921428x]

hey I know what you are saying. there seems to be no discipline in younger society today.
I am, in no means talking down or up to any of you. I am worried that if we burn the ones up that care and join.
what's left?

I do not want your most precious to have to do this.
but if some of these groups of people want some of what yours are giving,
at least they ought to get a lottery ticket.

[Hatedbysheeple]

The military is not a day care service or finishing school, if you want that then just open some re-education camps, it's what you are actually asking for anyway. The military has one true purpose and that is to skull fuck our nations enemies. Sure we can do a lot of other stuff, but all that other stuff is because we are so good at number one. Disaster relief a byproduct of our amazing logistics for war. Search and rescue a byproduct of war, emergency medical relief also from war. None of those would be possible with out highly motivated people.

Personally I would not want to serve with someone that did not want to be there, their mind isn't in it and I wouldn't trust them to have my back. A small motivated professional force with modern tech will destroy a larger less trained, less motivated force. Look at the PMCs in Africa in the 80's they went in clean out the rebels and in were so fast and so efficient that they scared the shit out of the UN.

The CCCs would be much better suited for the purpose a lot of you state, it would cost the same, and work would actually be getting done.

If you see the draft as a check on politicians then I suggest you look at history and how many of those children ever served.

[l921428x]

fair enough, well said. now there are 535 members of the congress and senate. even if they have 3 children each, it still does not add up to the number voters that may be concerned..
agreed a small dedicated force can burn it up and in some places they have but there are only so many men that can do this. how do you handle 50,000. in korea the Chinese gave the n. Koreans
3 days of food and ammo and said go south.