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    Wow, looks like the Scotts are going to vote down their own independence.

    I wonder what gives?

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    maybe they are smart.
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    Chains weigh lightly on those who have been long chained...
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    Sounds like they got quite a few concessions out of the deal to remain part of the union though, more representation in Parliament and more control over their own internal affairs.

    Supposedly their biggest beef was with the Crown's willingness to warmonger in the Middle East -- apparently Scotland is quite a bit more liberal than the rest of Great Britain and didn't like how the Queen kept playing lapdog and second-fiddle to U.S. foreign policy.

    I was kind of hoping they'd secede.
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    They had more to lose than to gain. Mostly, the pound.

    It's not like the Brits were sending raiding parties into the highlands anymore, or enforcing the crown's rents via redcoats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Sounds like they got quite a few concessions out of the deal to remain part of the union though, more representation in Parliament and more control over their own internal affairs.

    Supposedly their biggest beef was with the Crown's willingness to warmonger in the Middle East -- apparently Scotland is quite a bit more liberal than the rest of Great Britain and didn't like how the Queen kept playing lapdog and second-fiddle to U.S. foreign policy.

    I was kind of hoping they'd secede.
    sounds like a jesse Jackson shakedown.
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    There are not even 5 million Scotts in Scotland. They would of been a big looser in many ways to separate from the UK. With such a small population they couldn't sustain all the free Socialist stuff they enjoy like the healthcare system. On the Pound, they use Scottish Pounds, not British Pounds. They already have their own Parliament in Edinburgh. They are in love with the "Brave Heart" fantasy. Like has been mentioned they aren't being raped by the armies of England anymore and haven't been for a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 308 View Post
    I was thinking the Scotts going independent might not be a good idea with their limited industry, then I realized Israel has taken a barren land and made it flourish with their own planted national forests full of cedar trees and pines. The desert is blooming, the have hi-tech, Tel Aviv is booming. Maybe the Scotts could make a go of it, if they have the heart.
    Israel did it with billions US dollars over the last few decades. Scotland would not receive that much help even from England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by was_peacemaker View Post
    Israel did it with billions US dollars over the last few decades. Scotland would not receive that much help even from England.
    They would have if the Jews occupied Scotland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuetzenman View Post
    On the Pound, they use Scottish Pounds, not British Pounds.
    Well, the "Scottish pound" is sort of like "Disney Dollars", they are 1 to 1 with the UK pound, because they are 100% backed by the UK pound. But they are issued by a few retail banks, not the government. They barely even have the ties of the FRB and the US government, these are actual retail banks. No one has to accept Scottish pounds, not even the government.


    On a side note, and not directed to you, Israel was creating a viable country long before the US started giving them either grants or loans.

    What Scotland does have is natural resources. And since the area is very stable, they would have no shortage of investors.

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    isreal has brain power. that can carry a people a very, very long way. but I don't think the scots are truly
    hated by everyone.
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    I think its for the best. In 5 or 10 years they would be rioting in the streets because gubmit would run out of free shit pretty quick.

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    Does England's Gun Ban apply to them and Ireland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobe Sound AK View Post
    Does England's Gun Ban apply to them and Ireland?
    Google "Dunblane school massacre".
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    Ok, I guess they like being Sheep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobe Sound AK View Post
    Ok, I guess they like being Sheep!
    The whole reason they wanted independence is because England isn't liberal enough.

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    Its seems the older generations wanted to part of the UK still.

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    I was kinda hoping Scotland would become independent. Scotland wanted independence because they were tired of getting so called "conservative," governments in London. If Scotland were to become independent, then maybe the U.K. might have become a little more conservative.

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