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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    If trends continue, and the rich keep hogging more and more of the economic pie to themselves, forcing more and more people into poverty, I don't think partisan politics are really going to matter too much at that point.

    Because that's when the guillotines come out. And the Koch Brothers are going to meet the same fate as the George Soros's of the world, unless they finally build Elysium or something.
    I am always amazed when libs ignorantly pontificate about zero sum game economics. Bill Gates may be a rich asshole, but I don't see how you think he got rich by taking money from others, i.e., "hogging the pie" as you say. If you want to improve your life, you will stop with the class envy and try to make something of yourself.

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    This is why I'm not purchasing a new Xbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet3534 View Post
    I am always amazed when libs ignorantly pontificate about zero sum game economics. Bill Gates may be a rich asshole, but I don't see how you think he got rich by taking money from others, i.e., "hogging the pie" as you say. If you want to improve your life, you will stop with the class envy and try to make something of yourself.
    Naw...lefty plans a glorious skientifik hogging at the government trough for himself...sucking as much taxpayer money as he can from producers. That's his equivalent of social justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    I was only half jesting. I think a just as likely outcome is all those rich people lose all their paper wealth in a stock market crash that rivals 1929.

    That would be true justice -- let them feel what its like to be poor and strugging paycheck to paycheck for a change.
    Most of these rich weren't rich all their lives and who gives a fuck, only people that are jealous and USELESS. GO MAKE A NAME FOR YOURSELF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet3534 View Post
    I am always amazed when libs ignorantly pontificate about zero sum game economics. Bill Gates may be a rich asshole, but I don't see how you think he got rich by taking money from others, i.e., "hogging the pie" as you say. If you want to improve your life, you will stop with the class envy and try to make something of yourself.
    ^this. I guess he should've given away the software for free instead of FORCING US AT GUNPOINT to buy his software!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    Read the article twice and still can't figure out who they made this contribution to? Seems that it you know for a fact they made a contribution and know what it's for you'd know who it was made to? Maybe I missed it? Found an article that says they donated to a "campaign" but still doesn't say what campaign?

    Found this

    http://www.gunnews.com/bill-gates-do...n-gun-control/

    Looks like the "campaign" is the Washington Alliance for Gun Responsibility

    http://wagunresponsibility.org/
    They donated to the Washington Alliance for Gun Responsibility. Of the $7 million raised for this group, almost 50% ($3.4 million) has come from 6 people including the last mayor of New York, Michael Bloomberg ($1 million). The other 5 people are Bill and Melinda Gates ($1 million), Paul Allen, Steve Ballmer and Nick Hanauer ($2.4 million).

    Being from Washington I have done a good amount of research into this bill. It is classic liberal bait and switch. The initiative is called “Washington Universal Background Checks for Gun Purchases,” Initiative 594. What it actually does is change the definition of "transfer" as relates to firearms to make owning a firearm so hard as to turn law abiding citizens into felons who can then be "legally" disarmed for violating gun laws. I am working hard to make sure as many of my Washington friends as possible know about this and defeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltorlo64 View Post
    They donated to the Washington Alliance for Gun Responsibility. Of the $7 million raised for this group, almost 50% ($3.4 million) has come from 6 people including the last mayor of New York, Michael Bloomberg ($1 million). The other 5 people are Bill and Melinda Gates ($1 million), Paul Allen, Steve Ballmer and Nick Hanauer ($2.4 million).

    Being from Washington I have done a good amount of research into this bill. It is classic liberal bait and switch. The initiative is called “Washington Universal Background Checks for Gun Purchases,” Initiative 594. What it actually does is change the definition of "transfer" as relates to firearms to make owning a firearm so hard as to turn law abiding citizens into felons who can then be "legally" disarmed for violating gun laws. I am working hard to make sure as many of my Washington friends as possible know about this and defeat it.
    Thank you for your hard and diligent work.

    However, there will come a time when gun owners just get fed up with all the infringement bullshit and say, "no more." Incremental steps will cause a line to be drawn and when that line is passed, then, the powers-that-be will be forced to physically enforce their illegal laws and the shit will hit the fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet3534 View Post
    I am always amazed when libs ignorantly pontificate about zero sum game economics.
    No, I'm not talking about zero-sum economics. I'm talking about the reality today, where you have 95% of all new wealth generated in this country going straight into the hands of the top 1%, while the 99% divvy up and fight over the remaining scraps.

    http://eml.berkeley.edu/~saez/saez-U...comes-2012.pdf

    The middle class is treading water if not losing ground (due to inflation), while the fat cats laugh all the way to the bank.

    Bill Gates may be a rich asshole, but I don't see how you think he got rich by taking money from others, i.e., "hogging the pie" as you say.
    Motherfucker runs a de facto monopoly on operating system and office productivity software and charges WAY more than it costs to actually produce it.

    If it weren't for all the profits going straight into his personal bank account, a full OEM copy of Windows would only cost $20 and Office maybe $40.

    But he gets away with the outrageous gouging by strong-arming vendors (and thus institutions) into using exclusively Microsoft products.

    Anti-trust regulations should have kicked in years ago, and split that company up.
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    So boot leg his shit through a Swedish hosted torrent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggressive Perfector View Post
    So boot leg his shit through a Swedish hosted torrent.
    The problem with pirated software (besides the ethical issues) is that so many of them contain trojans and back-doors these days, especially on those P2P networks. Even with an up-to-date anti-virus security suite, shit can still get through.

    Just not worth the danger of putting all my personal info at risk to hackers just to save $200.

    And don't get me wrong -- I don't mind rewarding Microsoft's developers for their hard work, giving them the "seed" money they need to innovate and create future products, it's just the fucking gouging that pisses me off.

    Like I said: if it weren't for the school using exclusively Microsoft software, I would have never felt compelled to buy it. So while it may not have been exactly "a gun to my head" forcing me to buy it, it wasn't exactly "voluntary free trade" either.

    "Crony capitalism" might be a better phrase.
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    De facto manopoly? I somehow manage to avoid using Microsuck products.

    I would think with respect to term papers a PDF file could be submitted. As far as risking information, any MS product is a risk. I used to get a big kick out of seeing MS so called closed source code reviewed with respect to vulnerabilities at the Vegas Defcon conferences.

    As far as ethical issues with pirated software, why would a liberal have an issue with stealing? Liberalism is all about taking wealth from people that earn it and giving what is stolen to the non-producers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    The problem with pirated software (besides the ethical issues)


    BWAHAHAAA!!! An ex-con who went to the slammer for stealing shit has "ethical concerns" about pirating software? BWAHAHAAA!!! Thank you! You made my day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet3534 View Post
    De facto manopoly? I somehow manage to avoid using Microsuck products.

    I would think with respect to term papers a PDF file could be submitted.
    No, many college instructors these days use anti-plagiarism software to check student submissions to make sure they aren't cheating -- that anti-plagiarism software requires documents be submitted in Word .docx format exclusively.

    One of the reasons the school uses Microsoft products, exclusively. Like I said: it's the vendors.

    As far as risking information, any MS product is a risk. I used to get a big kick out of seeing MS so called closed source code reviewed with respect to vulnerabilities at the Vegas Defcon conferences.
    Well, we could argue back and forth whether open- or closed-source software is more vulnerable to exploits. I might just point out that with each major release of Windows there is only one kernel version, and it gets audited pretty heavily, hence the steady stream of updates and security fixes as bugs are discovered. The problem with many open-source packages are that everyone just assumes they must be audited since the source code is freely available, but the reality is there are so many frequent changes and new versions coming out all the time, that the source code is always in flux. It's a rather trivial task for programmers to insert malicious code or otherwise inadvertently introduce security flaws, especially considering how many people contribute to so many open-source projects. Consider the recent Heartbeat and BASH vulnerabilities -- millions of Linux systems out there running everything from ATM machines to point-of-sale terminals in retail stores, never being updated, wide-open for the raping.

    As far as ethical issues with pirated software, why would a liberal have an issue with stealing? Liberalism is all about taking wealth from people that earn it and giving what is stolen to the non-producers.
    You mean like people on disability or those who are retired and living off the government teat (Social Security and Medicare, the lion's share of the federal budget, by far)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    You mean like people on disability or those who are retired and living off the government teat (Social Security and Medicare, the lion's share of the federal budget, by far)?
    Oh, well since thats all liberals want, then I guess you're not so bad after all.
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