Voter ID Law Allowed

[Oswald Bastable]

Studies show that as many as 11 percent of eligible voters do not have government-issued photo ID.

None of which have ever shown either how they function in a society which demands id to do something as simple as purchasing a decongestant at the local drugstore, nor that they are even likely to vote if they could show id to buy a decongestant at the local drugstore.

[LAGC]

None of which have ever shown either how they function in a society which demands id to do something as simple as purchasing a decongestant at the local drugstore, nor that they are even likely to vote if they could show id to buy a decongestant at the local drugstore.

Most elderly, I imagine, have relatives who can do the shopping for them. Students, in such rare situations, can just get one of their roommates to buy.

I mean, really. How often in the past 5 years have you had to show anyone your photo ID?

Other than getting pulled over by police a few times for speeding -- oh, and flying out to D.C. and Indianapolis those two times -- I can't think of a single instance I've ever had to whip it out.

But for other folks who don't smoke or drink or fly anywhere, why would they ever need to show their photo ID to anyone?

[Oswald Bastable]

Most elderly, I imagine, have relatives who can do the shopping for them. Students, in such rare situations, can just get one of their roommates to buy.

I mean, really. How often in the past 5 years have you had to show anyone your photo ID?

Other than getting pulled over by police a few times for speeding -- oh, and flying out to D.C. and Indianapolis those two times -- I can't think of a single instance I've ever had to whip it out.

But for other folks who don't smoke or drink or fly anywhere, why would they ever need to show their photo ID to anyone?

Had to show mine last week...to buy a bottle of Seagrams Dark Honey Whiskey...at a local grocery store. I'm 56 years old, and look it. And the young dweeb at the counter who asked did so because he was required to, by his superiors, for liability reasons, even though he knew it was absurd.

I've had to show id on average once a month or more, for years...just as a daily occurrence...bank rep doesn't recognize me withdrawing money...id, buying some beer, store has a policy...id...it's endemic...hell, I was required to show id at a night club 3 years ago...as was everyone who entered...

And for those few...who don't have id...who genuinely want to participate in politics...is it so much to ask that they get id to do so? Do we not ask as much to be able to drive a car? Do we not ask as much to buy property? Do we not ask as much to show citizenship? Should we not ask as much to show legitimate right to vote?

And why, pray tell, do you wish to denigrate legitimate voters by diluting them with illegitimate votes...if, as you try to portray, you actually care about legitimate voting...

[ltorlo64]

Most elderly, I imagine, have relatives who can do the shopping for them. Students, in such rare situations, can just get one of their roommates to buy.

I mean, really. How often in the past 5 years have you had to show anyone your photo ID?

Other than getting pulled over by police a few times for speeding -- oh, and flying out to D.C. and Indianapolis those two times -- I can't think of a single instance I've ever had to whip it out.

But for other folks who don't smoke or drink or fly anywhere, why would they ever need to show their photo ID to anyone?

I think it depends on how often during those 5 years you have to apply for Medicaid, food stamps (or whatever it is called now), or any other social program. If we are not requiring ID for social programs we are a lot farther gone than I imagined.