A Democrat will win the White House in 2016.

[was_peacemaker]

Inner city America determines who wins and a Democrat will win, and the "hip" white American kids (sarcasm) between the ages of 18-35 will vote Democrat because they want to protect gay rights, legalization of weed, and social programs.

Here is what it will look like in 2016. Dems 332 and the GOP 206 regardless of who runs. For the record I do not vote for liberals, but I am seeing a pattern and it will take another failure of Democrats in the white house before people realize just how bad things are.

http://www.270towin.com/

[stevelyn]

Maybe we need an Ebola outbreak to thin out the populations in the cities.

[LAGC]

A Democrat will win the White House in 2016.

We'll see. What it usually boil downs to is which candidate is "least worse" if that makes any sense. Presidential elections tend to boil down to voting AGAINST a certain candidate, not so much voting FOR an ideal candidate. So each side will try to demonize the other, run attack ads, the whole works.

But demographics are definitely shifting in this country, with racial minorities making up more and more of the electorate pie. If the GOP quit being such xenophobic asses on immigration they could easily win back at least 33% of the Latino vote. Because the way things are trending, Hispanics may soon vote in as strong of a pro-Democratic favor as African Americans already do (over 90%) while white "race traitors", of course, only vote Republican 60% or so.

I think Chris Christie (who is popular amongst Hispanics) could defeat Hillary in several swing states, even with all his baggage (Bridgegate, etc.) Ted Cruz not so much.

But after 8 years of little getting done under Obama (even back when Democrats controlled Congress), many left-leaning folks may decide to just stay home and sit 2016 out as well.

[Krupski]

Inner city America determines who wins and a Democrat will win, and the "hip" white American kids (sarcasm) between the ages of 18-35 will vote Democrat because they want to protect gay rights, legalization of weed, and social programs.

The term for those kids is "millennials".

(by the way... completely off topic... what's wrong with "legalization of weed"? there's nothing wrong with pot).

[Krupski]

But demographics are definitely shifting in this country, with racial minorities making up more and more of the electorate pie. If the GOP quit being such xenophobic asses on immigration they could easily win back at least 33% of the Latino vote.

You obviously do not at all understand the "immigration" problem.

Americans are not against immigrants. This Country is made up mostly of immigrants. I am only second generation American. My grandparents came here from Poland, Germany and Italy.

The thing you are referring to is ILLEGAL ALIENS. Nobody in this Country (except democrats who want more votes) wants illegal aliens to waltz in here and demand we learn Spanish and give them free food, free healthcare and free education while they ramp up the crime rate in the area.

Anyone, from any country, is free to IMMIGRATE to this Country LEGALLY, the way it's been done for over 200 years.

Learn English, renounce your foreign citizenship, swear allegiance to America and assimilate into the American culture and all will be fine.

But any real American will NEVER welcome illegal aliens who want to waltz in here and get everything for free.

We don't need "immigration reform"... the immigration system works just fine. What we need is border security and enforcement of our immigration laws.

Anyone who can't or won't take the time and trouble to become a real American doesn't deserve that honor.

[LAGC]

Krup, if we raised the limit on how many people could come in the front door legally and assimilate, we wouldn't have so many people trying to sneak in the back door.

The reason there are so many illegal immigrants is because there are far too few who are allowed to come in through the proper channels than there are jobs (mostly agricultural) that need a steady supply of cheap labor.

[FunkyPertwee]

The term for those kids is "millennials".

(by the way... completely off topic... what's wrong with "legalization of weed"? there's nothing wrong with pot).

Your hitting on a good point, which in my mind is the fact that these millennials can be converted into libertarians.

Teach them that social justice is the antithesis of individual justice, and about the supremacy of Austrian economics.

[Krupski]

Krup, if we raised the limit on how many people could come in the front door legally and assimilate, we wouldn't have so many people trying to sneak in the back door.
The reason there are so many illegal aliens is because there are far too few who are allowed to come in through the proper channels than there are jobs (mostly agricultural) that need a steady supply of cheap labor.

"Raised the limit"? Are you kidding? Do you believe that Mexicans are trying to legally immigrate and being told "sorry, the USA has reached it's quota for the year - try again"?

And, I know full why the illegal aliens are here (cheap labor and democrat votes), but that does not make them "legal" nor does it make it "right".

Can I go to a bank, rob it, then say "oh well I just needed a source of easy money" and then it's OK?

No, didn't think so.

[was_peacemaker]

As far as pot goes. I don't smoke it, and I don't get it. I am just saying you have a whole generation that votes on, legalization of weed and gay marriage.

[imanaknut]

I think Chris Christie (who is popular amongst Hispanics) could defeat Hillary in several swing states, even with all his baggage (Bridgegate, etc.) Ted Cruz not so much.

I think Christie will have problems with the people who used to populate this board, firearm owners. He is very anti second amendment. Just look at the laws of New Jersey, where a couple of lawful firearm owners got thrown in jail in full violation of the law as well as their rights. It took a while for a judge to realize it, but not before the two spent time and lost tons including reputation.

"Bridgegate" is a news media thing, stomping on the constitution affects all.

[skorpion]

Krup, if we raised the limit on how many people could come in the front door legally and assimilate, we wouldn't have so many people trying to sneak in the back door.

The reason there are so many illegal immigrants is because there are far too few who are allowed to come in through the proper channels than there are jobs (mostly agricultural) that need a steady supply of cheap labor.

What a giant, steaming pile of bulldozed horse crap. #1: The illegals that sneak across the border could care less about assimilating. #2 The illegals that sneak across the border would still sneak across the border even if you air-dropped instructions to them on how to legally enter the United States.

Pull your head out of that aforementioned giant, steaming pile of bulldozed horse crap for once.

[skorpion]

Maybe we need an Ebola outbreak to thin out the populations in the cities.

It's too bad that a strain of Ebola can't be genetically modified to only infect those who have the mental disease of liberalism.

[tank_monkey]

As far as pot goes. I don't smoke it, and I don't get it. I am just saying you have a whole generation that votes on, legalization of weed and gay marriage.

The WEED vote was the one which brought out the usual slackers and youngsters en masse in California the last time (2010 - medical marijuana law) and that screwed the OTHER propositions and any Republican candidates for the mid term that last time. Pot smokers aren't necessarily socialist Liberals, but they tend to vote Democrat because of social pressures and the 'myth' that Democrats hold the same values as them in everything as well as Pot use.

What's interesting is that GAY MARRIAGE got SLAMMED by Prop 8 in California in 2008, why? Because the liberals miscalculated the mindset of BLACK and HISPANIC voters. Both those blocs are socially CONSERVATIVE when it comes to Gay Marriage. Prop 8 passed (and was ILLEGALLY blocked by a judge, Vaughn Walker, who refused to recuse himself, despite being a gay man seeking to marry HIS partner and not disclosing it when he was ruling on the case). That surprised the gay marriage people. The blacks and hispanics were all excited by Obama's first term, so they came out in droves, but despite voting in black and brown candidates, all the propositions they support are conservative ones. Go figure.

[FunkyPertwee]

As far as pot goes. I don't smoke it, and I don't get it. I am just saying you have a whole generation that votes on, legalization of weed and gay marriage.

What is that you do get?

Imagine that possessing whatever that is that you enjoy puts you in danger of going to prison. So if alcohol was prohibited, you wouldn't be politically active to overturn it? What if your thing is coffee, or cigars, or fine hooch? You'd just say "fuck it, I don't care if my poison of choice is now illegal"? Yeah right.

And beyond all that, from a open market perspective, U.S. drug law enforcement simply protects the oligopoly of drug "businesses" (the cartel). Wal-Mart and Costco could remove the violent cartels from the drug trade by simply opening up the market for legal businesses to engage in the trade. I know it sounds unorthodox, but its the open market, free trade, personal liberty solution to drug violence.

[FunkyPertwee]

The WEED vote was the one which brought out the usual slackers and youngsters en masse in California the last time (2010 - medical marijuana law) and that screwed the OTHER propositions and any Republican candidates for the mid term that last time. Pot smokers aren't necessarily socialist Liberals, but they tend to vote Democrat because of social pressures and the 'myth' that Democrats hold the same values as them in everything as well as Pot use.

Those are potential libertarian converts.

[LAGC]

I think Christie will have problems with the people who used to populate this board, firearm owners. He is very anti second amendment. Just look at the laws of New Jersey, where a couple of lawful firearm owners got thrown in jail in full violation of the law as well as their rights. It took a while for a judge to realize it, but not before the two spent time and lost tons including reputation.

Oh, believe me, I sure as hell won't be voting for him, for that and other reasons -- nor Hillary should she actually make it that far.

But I'm just looking at the GOP Establishment's trajectory here: Dubya -> McCain -> Romney -> (insert next "RINO" here...)

You connect the dots.

[Charliebravo]

The Free Shit Army is too powerful and can't afford to vote itself a pay cut. We're just circling the drain now.

[was_peacemaker]

The Free Shit Army is too powerful and can't afford to vote itself a pay cut. We're just circling the drain now.

Can I borrow this?

[was_peacemaker]

What is that you do get?

Imagine that possessing whatever that is that you enjoy puts you in danger of going to prison. So if alcohol was prohibited, you wouldn't be politically active to overturn it? What if your thing is coffee, or cigars, or fine hooch? You'd just say "fuck it, I don't care if my poison of choice is now illegal"? Yeah right.

And beyond all that, from a open market perspective, U.S. drug law enforcement simply protects the oligopoly of drug "businesses" (the cartel). Wal-Mart and Costco could remove the violent cartels from the drug trade by simply opening up the market for legal businesses to engage in the trade. I know it sounds unorthodox, but its the open market, free trade, personal liberty solution to drug violence.

I understand what you are saying. I don't care if some one toke's...but people shouldn't be one or two issue voters. Like Tank_monkey said above.

[FunkyPertwee]

I understand what you are saying. I don't care if some one toke's...but people shouldn't be one or two issue voters. Like Tank_monkey said above.

I have no qualms with admitting that gun rights is the issue that most determines who I vote for. I don't blame anybody for putting the violation of their most favored individual rights as their primary issue.