ATF may be reversing stance on Sig brace soon

[Aggressive Perfector]

A company making short barreled shotguns without the stock (not sure what these are called) was going to put a sig brace on them, but the ATF decided that would make it an SBS if the Sig brace was used as a stock and subject to NFA rules.
http://www.shootingsportsretailer.co...the-sig-brace/

[Helen Keller]

Ummm, a shotgun with a short barrel is still NFA regardless whats on the end, even if it's a "weapon over 26" it still wont fly with them.

Typical fear mongering from a site whos not very informed just trying to generate traffic.




I'm sorry but please dont pass garbage like this along.

[FunkyPertwee]

Don't worry guys, they've spoken with an actual "worried shooter on an internet forum".

“The BATFE is in the process of reversing its position on shouldering arm braces due to a change in leadership. It might not be this moment, but it’ll be soon,” a worried shooter said on an Internet forum post about the ATF letter. “Investing a ton of money in weapons that are only usable with ‘arm braces’ may not be a wise plan for the future.”

[Helen Keller]

peacemaker???

[Aggressive Perfector]

Regardless of how decent the site is, the main point lies in the ATF letter. The NFA classification would go from AOW to SBS.

However, should an individual utilize the SigTac SB15 pistol stabilizing brace on the submitted sample as a shoulder stock to fire the weapon from the shoulder, this firearm would then be classified as a "short barreled shotgun" as defined in the NFA, 26 U.S.C. 5845 (a) (1) because the subject brace has then been made or remade, designed or redesigned from its originally intended purpose.

ETA: The significance of this is that the ATF is now stating that they are determining a guns classification in regards to the Sig Brace by how an individual uses the brace. Right now they are just redefining this AOW as an SBS due to how the Sig Brace will inevitably be used by some. It's not a big leap of the imagination to conclude they will soon start determining AR pistols with this brace as SBR's.

[imanaknut]

What I would really like to read is that a member of that fabled "top 1 precent" deciding to use some of that money that they would not be able to spend in five lifetimes and take on ATF and get them to admit, and then agree that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" does not have any restrictions on barrel or overall length among other things.

[Schuetzenman]

So ATF is going to allow a brace if you strap it to your forearm but will make you a felon if you stick it up on your shoulder. Riiiiiiiiiight! I guess this will be a new class of crime called "Positional Felonies". They are seriously going to piss off a very LARGE group of people that have invested in the Sig Braces. We all have our BATFE letters that come with each Sig Brace purchased. They may have to eat a batch of tax stamps like they did for the Street Sweepers and Stryker Shotguns. Everyone that had one could at the time come forward and get a free NFA tax stamp. I believe they made those DD's.

[Aggressive Perfector]

^I'm sure we'll see a few low profile court cases about this at some point. And yes, they made those guns DD's, they are no longer importable, nor are USAS's, SPAS's, and many other "non sporting" shotguns.

What I would really like to read is that a member of that fabled "top 1 precent" deciding to use some of that money that they would not be able to spend in five lifetimes and take on ATF and get them to admit, and then agree that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" does not have any restrictions on barrel or overall length among other things.

You're going to be waiting a very long time then...

[Helen Keller]

It's not a big leap of the imagination to conclude they will soon start determining AR pistols with this brace as SBR's.

no, they key thing is You can't count the brace towards Overall Length on a shotgun with a barrel less than 18" . It's something they need to clarify VS making internet hype .

[FunkyPertwee]

no, they key thing is You can't count the brace towards Overall Length on a shotgun with a barrel less than 18" . It's something they need to clarify VS making internet hype .

Yep.

I'm really disappointed in a few online sources and internet personalities for hyping this up so much. Makes them look no better than than Fox news or MSNBC.