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    Where'd all the ebola go?

    I was thinking ok so what happened to all the ebola folks around the world, did they disappear? Not likely. The ebolaczar simply made some phone calls to the corporate controlled media and had all ebola stories quashed I figure. Then I was reminded of this gem;
    DHS Started Expediting Visa Extensions from Ebola Countries in August
    AUSTIN, Texas -- As Ebola continued to ravage communities in West Africa this summer, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), a division under the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced "immigration relief measures" for citizens of three countries affected by the deadly virus. http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...ries-in-August

    So that's some 4k a month from the ebola birth canal straight to Mayberry RFD. It's almost as if the president wanted this to spread. And it's flu season, where 13 folks may have already died from flu vaccines in Italy.
    Italy Investigates Novartis Flu Vaccine After 13 Deaths are Reported
    http://blogs.wsj.com/pharmalot/2014/...-are-reported/

    Flu season, millions of people doing seasonal shopping in confined spaces, Sick kids in every school spreading whatever they have to each other to take home to their families, ebola being imported on a fast track, what could go wrong? If nothing goes wrong with this we can thank the almighty.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Where did it go?

    We handled it. We've got rather good docs here.

    If it comes back...we'll handle it again.

    No worries.

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    I'll give you credit for sticking with it. No matter how many times your conspiracies don't pan out you keep never give up on them.
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    No, he is right. Its been on drudge a couple of times, how the numbers of cases are INCREASING in seara leon, but the msm is ignoring it.
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    It's one thing to use terrorism to make a political statement, but the wanton mutilation and suffering of innocents? How does that forward your political goals? When done in the name of religion, how does that earn you brownie points with God?

    Fuck religious extremism. And especially fuck the "religion of peace." "

    So, lagcsocialist supports terrorism AS LONG AS ITS FOR POLITICAL ENDS....

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    Plenty of precedent...

    Government Lied About Pandemic Which Killed 50 Million People … Attempt to “Prevent Panic” Backfired

    Governments Have Suppressed the Dangers of Epidemics Before, Only Making Things Worse

    The mainstream American press has agreed – at the request of the government – not to report on suspected Ebola cases.

    Let’s provide some context …

    The U.S. National Academies of Science noted in 2005 (starting on the bottom of p. 64):

    In the United States, national and local government and public health authorities badly mishandled the [1918 "Spanish Flu"] epidemic [which killed up to 50 million people worldwide], offering a useful case study.

    The context is important. Every country engaged in World War I tried to control public perception. To avoid hurting morale, even in the nonlethal first wave the press in countries fighting in the war did not mention the outbreak. (But Spain was not at war and its press wrote about it, so the pandemic became known as the Spanish flu).

    The United States was no different. In 1917 California Senator Hiram Johnson made the since-famous observation that “The first casualty when war comes is truth.” The U.S. government passed a law that made it punishable by 20 years in jail to “utter, print, write or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the government of the United States.”

    One could go to jail for cursing or criticizing the government, even if what one said was true. A Congressman was jailed. Simultaneously, the government mounted a massive propaganda effort. An architect of that effort said, “Truth and falsehood are arbitrary terms…. There is nothing in experience to tell us that one is always preferable to the other…. The force of an idea lies in its inspirational value. It matters very little if it is true or false” (Vaughn, 1980).

    The combination of rigid control and disregard for truth had dangerous consequences. Focusing on the shortest term, local officials almost universally told half-truths or outright lies to avoid damaging morale and the war effort. They were assisted—not challenged—by the press, which although not censored in a technical sense cooperated fully with the government’s propaganda machine.

    Routinely, as influenza approached a city or town—one could watch it march from place to place—local officials initially told the public not to worry, that public health officials would prevent the disease from striking them. When influenza first appeared, officials routinely insisted at first it was only ordinary influenza, not the Spanish flu. As the epidemic exploded, officials almost daily assured the public that the worst was over.

    This pattern repeated itself again and again. Chicago offers one example: Its public health commissioner said he’d do “nothing to interfere with the morale of the community…. It is our duty to keep the people from fear. Worry kills more people than the epidemic” (Robertson, 1918).

    That idea—“Fear kills more than the disease”—became a mantra nationally and in city after city. As Literary Digest, one of the largest circulation periodicals in the country, advised, “Fear is our first enemy” (Van Hartesveldt, 1992).

    In Philadelphia, when the public health commissioner closed all schools, houses of worship, theaters, and other public gathering places, one newspaper went so far as to say that this order was “not a public health measure” and reiterated that “there is no cause for panic or alarm.”

    But as people heard these reassurances, they could see neighbors, friends, and spouses dying horrible deaths.

    In Chicago, the Cook County Hospital mortality rate of all influenza admissions—not just those who developed pneumonia—was 39.8 percent (Keeton and Cusman, 1918). In Philadelphia, bodies remained uncollected in homes for days, until eventually open trucks and even horse-drawn carts were sent down city streets and people were told to bring out the dead. The bodies were stacked without coffins and buried in cemeteries in mass graves dug by steam shovels.

    This horrific disconnect between reassurances and reality destroyed the credibility of those in authority. People felt they had no one to turn to, no one to rely on, no one to trust.

    Ultimately society depends on trust. Without it, society began to come apart. Normally in 1918 America, when someone was ill, neighbors helped. That did not happen during the pandemic. Typically, the head of one city’s volunteer effort, frustrated after repeated pleas for help yielded nothing, turned bitter and contemptuous:

    Hundreds of women who are content to sit back had delightful dreams of themselves in the roles of angels of mercy, had the unfathomable vanity to imagine that they were capable of great sacrifice. Nothing seems to rouse them now. They have been told that there are families in which every member is ill, in which the children are actually starving because there is no one to give them food. The death rate is so high and they still hold back.3

    That attitude persisted outside of cities as well. In rural Kentucky, the Red Cross reported “people starving to death not from lack of food but because the well were panic stricken and would not go near the sick” (An Account of the Influenza Epidemic, 1919).

    As the pressure from the virus continued, an internal Red Cross report concluded, “A fear and panic of the influenza, akin to the terror of the Middle Ages regarding the Black Plague, [has] been prevalent in many parts of the country” (The Mobilization of the American National Red Cross, 1920). Similarly, Victor Vaughan, a sober scientist not given to overstatement, worried, “If the epidemic continues its mathematical rate of acceleration, civilization could easily … disappear … from the face of the earth within a matter of a few more weeks” (Collier, 1974).

    Of course, the disease generated fear independent of anything officials did or did not do, but the false reassurances given by the authorities and the media systematically destroyed trust. That magnified the fear and turned it into panic and terror.

    It is worth noting that this terror, at least in paralyzing form, did not seem to materialize in the few places where authorities told the truth.

    One lesson is clear from this experience: In handling any crisis, it is absolutely crucial to retain credibility. Giving false reassurance is the worst thing one can do. If I may speculate, let me suggest that almost as bad as outright lying is holding information so closely that people think officials know more than they say.
    The rest here: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/...-pandemic.html


    The truth is, we don't really know, since the media refuses to report on it, hospitals have been given gag orders, paramedics & police given euphemisms to use in radio calls...

    We'll only know for sure when one of two things happens. Either the plague is ended in Afreeka, or it becomes so endemic here that it can no longer be ignored.
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    It's gone nowhere, it just doesn't fit the lefts narrative at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    I'll give you credit for sticking with it. No matter how many times your conspiracies don't pan out you keep never give up on them.
    LOl yeah I guess our borders aren't still wide open, and ebola disappeared from news stories and thusly your world shortly after 0bama appointed a guy with no medical experience whatsoever as ebolaczar, police didn't set up sniper teams on rooftops at ferguson who aimed their weapons at Oathkeepers, and so on and so forth. Everything's fine, go back to your Walking Dead discussions.
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    The U.S. has benefitted from the fact that no other infected dude has tried to fly across the Atlantic. Trans Atlantic flight isn't all that common for the average joe in West Africa. It's still raging in Sierra Leone. But right now, I don't think it's anything we did. I can hear the liberals now. "Gee we did nothing and everything turned out just fine". Um. No. We were just lucky that a virulent carrier of the disease did NOT board a flight from W.A. It was just luck. Nothing more. It could still happen.

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    35 U.S. hospitals designated as Ebola treatment centers

    An increasing number of U.S. hospitals are now equipped to treat patients with Ebola, giving nationwide health system Ebola readiness efforts a boost. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), state health officials have identified and designated 35 hospitals with Ebola treatment centers, with more expected in the coming weeks.

    http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2014pr...20141202b.html



    I guess we're not in clear just yet, even though the MSM is ignoring the situation.
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    What exactly is the MSM ignoring? There are no active cases in this country. AFAIK only the guy who died in Houston actually came here with the disease undetected. The others were either brought here as active cases or contracted it from a person already undergoing treatment. I believe two people have died here, the rest have been cured. We're monitoring 1,400 people. We haven't had the huge pandemic some were preaching/praying for a 4-6 weeks ago. Maybe it will still happen, maybe we dodged a bullet, maybe it was never the impending crisis some expected it to be? Who knows, maybe some of all of those things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    What exactly is the MSM ignoring? There are no active cases in this country.

    And if they're ignoring them or not reporting on them how do we know that???

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    Quote Originally Posted by weevil View Post
    And if they're ignoring them or not reporting on them how do we know that???
    So you think there are active cases of Ebola right now in the U.S. and the MSM is purposely not reporting them but they know or were able to find out about them? How many do you think there are? Ten, 5,000? I guess it's possible but do you really think that's what's happening? If so I guess you can say that about everything? Is nothing reported true? If no one reports it does that mean it never happened or maybe if it didn't happen but they report it that means it did happen? I guess if you are selective about what you believe it makes sense.
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    Apparently you failed to read post #6...historical precedent.
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    I'm cautiously optimistic that ebola is mainly a concern in 3rd-world countries with marginal healthcare infrastructure, much like malaria, dengue fever, yellow fever, bubonic plague, is etc etc.

    As long as we have some kind of restrictions in place regarding the immigration of people from the west of Africa where it's running rampant, I don't believe it offers the same level of threat to our national security & health as say the disease of Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    So you think there are active cases of Ebola right now in the U.S. and the MSM is purposely not reporting them but they know or were able to find out about them? How many do you think there are? Ten, 5,000? I guess it's possible but do you really think that's what's happening? If so I guess you can say that about everything? Is nothing reported true? If no one reports it does that mean it never happened or maybe if it didn't happen but they report it that means it did happen? I guess if you are selective about what you believe it makes sense.

    So you "believe" the MSM is straight up and honest and would never even think about trying to pull the wool over our eyes?

    Like you say, "I guess if are selective about what you believe it makes sense."



    Personally though I don't trust the MSM as far as I can throw an elephant.

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