So perhaps someone can help me understand here...

[Oswald Bastable]

All the liberal news sources, along with the white hut spokes honkeys...they all say each and every islamofascist attack, every murder, every rape, every atrocity, is not related to Islam...just fanatics...right?

Yet, each and every time it is pointed out that 99% of such atrocities as carried out in our current milieu, are all by members of the religion of pieces...those same sources, along with it, and it, come along to remind us of past atrocities (long past) committed by members of another religion, i.e., Christianity.

To follow the marxist liberal paradigm...if the current atrocities can not be laid at the feet of true Islam...how can any of those long past atrocities be laid at the feet of true Christianity...

Or, is there a hypocritical double standard of judgment in play here?

Hmmm?

[Schuetzenman]

Rhetorical question right?

[alismith]

Yup, rhetorical.

[N/A]

Just a different form of CampyBob. Pushing buttons.....

[308]

Kadmos and LAGC will explain it to you if you ask them nicely.

[alismith]

Kadmos and LAGC will explain it to you if you ask them nicely.

I don't know about that. If it's a direct question (capable of being answered in one or two sentences), they'll take about 2-3 pages, and countless words that sound good, to dance, deftly, around any sort of answer that would make sense, or be correct.

When all is said and done, the best you will be able to do is scratch your head and wonder why you bothered to ask them in the first place. They have a Master's Degree in Misdirection, with a minor in Apologetics and, in LAGC's case, a Master of Left-Wing Pseudo-Science, funded by Man-made Global Warming grants. He, also, holds an Honorary Degree in Liberal Double-Speak bestowed by Al Gore at the 2012 UN Global Warming Conference in Washington, DC.

[Krupski]

All the liberal news sources, along with the white hut spokes honkeys...they all say each and every islamofascist attack, every murder, every rape, every atrocity, is not related to Islam...just fanatics...right?

Yet, each and every time it is pointed out that 99% of such atrocities are carried out in our current milieu, are all by members of the religion of pieces...those same sources, along with it, and it, come along to remind us of past atrocities (long past) committed by members of another religion, i.e., Christianity.

To follow the marxist liberal paradigm...if the current atrocities can not be laid at the feet of true Islam...how can any of those long past atrocities be laid at the feet of true Christianity...

Or, is there a hypocritical double standard of judgment in play here?

Hmmm?

There are many former muslims who have made YouTube videos stating what most of us should know (but seem to refuse to believe):

A true muslim (that is, someone who follows the koran and the teachings of mohammed) is duty bound to wage jihad. Jihad is the attempt to convert the entire planet to islam and kill anyone who will not convert.

Many people think "jihad" is some kind of rallying cry to commit an isolated instance of violence.

Not true. Jihad is "Struggle" and the "struggle" is to convert all "non-believers" to islam. What happens to those who do not or will not convert? True muslims must "fight" the non-believers and continue the "struggle" until the "non-believer" is converted. Obviously, if the "struggle" must continue until the non-believer is converted, there can be only two outcomes:

(1) The non-believer is killed
(2) The non-believer converts.

Even if "muslim #1" is killed in his "struggle" to convert the "non-believer", then it's the duty of muslim #2, then #3, etc...

Obviously, even Rambo will eventually be converted or killed.

It's allowable for muslims to lie to non-believers in order to further their "struggle". So of course they will claim that they are a "religion of peace" and all other kinds of BS.

And non-muslims fall for it every time. They think "Most muslims are nice peaceful people - it's only a few radicals". This is a complete lie.

ANY TRUE muslim is duty bound to convert or kill non-believers, the ultimate goal being conversion of the entire planet to islam.

So we have a choice: Convert now or kill the bastards before they kill us. There IS no other way.

[LAGC]

To follow the marxist liberal paradigm...if the current atrocities can not be laid at the feet of true Islam...how can any of those long past atrocities be laid at the feet of true Christianity...

Or, is there a hypocritical double standard of judgment in play here?

Hmmm?

I think the hypocrisy lies straight at the feet of those Christians who think that their shit doesn't stink as bad as the Muslims.

Yes, its nice that most Christians have finally quit taking their faith so seriously and quit trying to convert people by force (e.g., the Crusades), but that doesn't ignore the fact that we're only one civil breakdown short of a significant number of fundamentalist Christians "chimping out" again and turning all violent in the power vacuum, jumping at the chance to seize control of the government again and force their "Christian values" down the throats of the rest of us.

You already see quite a few who think America is supposed to be a "Christian nation" even though so many of our Founding Fathers spoke out so vehemently against it, including the Treaty of Tripoli where President John Adams and the entire Senate of 1797 unanimously declared in no uncertain terms that "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

Yes, lets concern ourselves with our present-day Muslim problem, but let us not take our eyes off the theocratic threat simmering in our own backyard either.

[alismith]

I think the hypocrisy lies straight at the feet of those Christians who think that their shit doesn't stink as bad as the Muslims.

Yes, its nice that most Christians have finally quit taking their faith so seriously and quit trying to convert people by force (e.g., the Crusades), but that doesn't ignore the fact that we're only one civil breakdown short of a significant number of fundamentalist Christians "chimping out" again and turning all violent in the power vacuum, jumping at the chance to seize control of the government again and force their "Christian values" down the throats of the rest of us.

You already see quite a few who think America is supposed to be a "Christian nation" even though so many of our Founding Fathers spoke out so vehemently against it, including the Treaty of Tripoli where President John Adams and the entire Senate of 1797 unanimously declared in no uncertain terms that "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

Yes, lets concern ourselves with our present-day Muslim problem, but let us not take our eyes off the theocratic threat simmering in our own backyard either.

Right on cue. Putting your Masters and Minor Degrees to work.

[skorpion]

[1 Patriot-of-many]

I think the hypocrisy lies straight at the feet of those Christians who think that their shit doesn't stink as bad as the Muslims.

Yes, its nice that most Christians have finally quit taking their faith so seriously and quit trying to convert people by force (e.g., the Crusades), but that doesn't ignore the fact that we're only one civil breakdown short of a significant number of fundamentalist Christians "chimping out" again and turning all violent in the power vacuum, jumping at the chance to seize control of the government again and force their "Christian values" down the throats of the rest of us.

You already see quite a few who think America is supposed to be a "Christian nation" even though so many of our Founding Fathers spoke out so vehemently against it, including the Treaty of Tripoli where President John Adams and the entire Senate of 1797 unanimously declared in no uncertain terms that "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

Yes, lets concern ourselves with our present-day Muslim problem, but let us not take our eyes off the theocratic threat simmering in our own backyard either.

There again you either eat the shit right out of your professors twist of the facts or you do so yourself. If you actually looked at the history of Islam, you'll find the crusades were a reaction to aggression. But you never let facts get in the way of your posts do you?

[308]

I think the hypocrisy lies straight at the feet of those Christians who think that their shit doesn't stink as bad as the Muslims.

Yes, its nice that most Christians have finally quit taking their faith so seriously and quit trying to convert people by force (e.g., the Crusades), but that doesn't ignore the fact that we're only one civil breakdown short of a significant number of fundamentalist Christians "chimping out" again and turning all violent in the power vacuum, jumping at the chance to seize control of the government again and force their "Christian values" down the throats of the rest of us.

You already see quite a few who think America is supposed to be a "Christian nation" even though so many of our Founding Fathers spoke out so vehemently against it, including the Treaty of Tripoli where President John Adams and the entire Senate of 1797 unanimously declared in no uncertain terms that "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

Yes, lets concern ourselves with our present-day Muslim problem, but let us not take our eyes off the theocratic threat simmering in our own backyard either.

I thought I told you to STFU and stick with your global warming/cooling/raining sermons Pastor LAGC?
Seriously, stick to what you think you know because time has shown you to be quite ignorant in the discussion of spiritual things. You just never get it right.

It is interesting that you and Kadmos tend to choose the words such as you did above..."Christians who think that...blah, blah..."...as if you are some sort of a mind reader.

You also know..."most Christians have finally quit taking their faith so seriously"; Curious how you being a simple-minded-hater regarding the subject would even know that? I take it you have polled many "Christians"...taken to the streets so to speak and have correlating data to back up your religious claim? Didn't think so...

At any rate, your revisionist ranting may work with your fellow prison inmates, simple-minded mouth breathers and other lower forms of morally bankrupt simpletons, but not here.

Seriously...stick to what you know rather than what you hate.

[FunkyPertwee]

Yes, its nice that most Christians have finally quit taking their faith so seriously and quit trying to convert people by force (e.g., the Crusades), but that doesn't ignore the fact that we're only one civil breakdown short of a significant number of fundamentalist Christians "chimping out" again and turning all violent in the power vacuum, jumping at the chance to seize control of the government again and force their "Christian values" down the throats of the rest of us.

So instead of planning to work with Christians during an emergency, you're running scared from them?

I'm not sure if that makes you an ignoramus or a pussy. Either way, your bound to be disappointed by the hospitality demonstrated by your preffered group, the socialist revolutionaries. I imagine they'll treat you a bit worse than the black Ferguson protesters treated the white liberals that came to help them.

[jet3534]

So we have a choice: Convert now or kill the bastards before they kill us. There IS no other way.

Until people figure out that what you said is true, can we at least try to keep them out of our country? We should be taking in refugees from Iran, Iraq, Syria, etc.

[5.56NATO]

I'm afraid some would side with the jihadsters rather than Americans.

[nfa1934]

I don't think LAGC is in disagreement with the fact that there is a muzzie problem, after all Bill Maher approved this opinion. Where he goes off the rails is in suggesting that there is some phantom Christian menace lurking in the background just waiting to kick-start a new Inquisition (and actually the Inquisition itself is misrepresented by modern academics in much the same way the Crusades are; the Inquisition was originally intended to purge muzzie influence after Islamic occupiers were finally driven from Spain - it turned into a horrific mess when people started using it to jockey for political advantage by denouncing their rivals and neighbors - this wasn't "Christianity" so much as it was bloody medieval politics).

[PROBASCO]

but let us not take our eyes off the theocratic threat simmering in our own backyard either.

Me thinks what you have simmering in your back yard is a whole lot different than the reality simmering in the real world. As usual your "perspective" is YOUR reality based on all the shit that has happened in your life. Please, don't confuse it with the real world.

In God we Trust is just one aspect of religion from the founders. Lambert (2003) has examined the religious affiliations and beliefs of the Founders. Of the 55 delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention, 49 were Protestants, and two were Roman Catholics (D. Carroll, and Fitzsimons).[citation needed] Among the Protestant delegates to the Constitutional Convention, 28 were Church of England (or Episcopalian, after the American Revolutionary War was won), eight were Presbyterians, seven were Congregationalists, two were Lutherans, two were Dutch Reformed, and two were Methodists.[citation needed]

A few prominent Founding Fathers were anti-clerical Christians, such as Thomas Jefferson[18][19][20] (who created the so-called Jefferson Bible) and Benjamin Franklin.[21] Others (most notably Thomas Paine, who authored the religious book The Age of Reason[22]) were deists, or at least held beliefs very similar to those of deists.[23]

The dark ages are long gone. I have linked a list of Muslim terror acts (1980-present) which for some reason does not include the DC sniper nor the recent Paris incident, but find me a similar list of Christian terror attacks during the same time frame and then we can have a discussion of what is simmering where.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rorist_attacks

[PROBASCO]

I thought I told you to STFU and stick with your global warming/cooling/raining sermons Pastor LAGC?
Seriously, stick to what you think you know because time has shown you to be quite ignorant in the discussion of spiritual things. You just never get it right.

It is interesting that you and Kadmos tend to choose the words such as you did above..."Christians who think that...blah, blah..."...as if you are some sort of a mind reader.

You also know..."most Christians have finally quit taking their faith so seriously"; Curious how you being a simple-minded-hater regarding the subject would even know that? I take it you have polled many "Christians"...taken to the streets so to speak and have correlating data to back up your religious claim? Didn't think so...

At any rate, your revisionist ranting may work with your fellow prison inmates, simple-minded mouth breathers and other lower forms of morally bankrupt simpletons, but not here.

Seriously...stick to what you know rather than what you hate.

What he said!

[LAGC]

I thought I told you to STFU and stick with your global warming/cooling/raining sermons Pastor LAGC?

Oh, c'mon, 308, you know I usually do. But this is GunsNet General Discussion after all, it's not like there are any sacred cows around here. You kind of have to have a thick-skin to survive long around here. Look at how often people bash Muslims, "Amish yutes", overzealous cops, "libtards", and Algore?

I kind of miss peacemaker and his monthly atheist-bashing threads myself.

Seriously, stick to what you think you know because time has shown you to be quite ignorant in the discussion of spiritual things. You just never get it right.

You know I've said repeatedly before that I'm not that familiar with scripture. I leave that to you and Kadmos and the other religious scholars to butt horns over. But I do know a bit about church history. I did spend 9th grade attending a Catholic high school after all. Full theology class immersion and everything. How do you think I developed my great love for the faith?

Seriously...stick to what you know rather than what you hate.

Believe it or not, I don't hate. I'm just weary. Weary of religion and all the dick measuring contests between faiths.

But if you hadn't noticed, Islam is kind of on my shitlist right now, so don't take it too personally.

[Krupski]

I think the hypocrisy lies straight at the feet of those Christians who think that their shit doesn't stink as bad as the Muslims.

Yes, lets concern ourselves with our present-day Muslim problem, but let us not take our eyes off the theocratic threat simmering in our own backyard either.

You're a damn fool. First of all, there is no point in comparing Christians to muslims or Jews to muslims or any religion to muslims.

Islam is not a religion.

Secondly, what sort of "theocratic threat" do you think is "simmering in our own backyard"?

Is a roving band of Jews or Christians gearing up to sweep the planet and convert everyone to their religion and kill anyone who won't?

Are the Rabbis driving around with RPG-7 launchers?

Are the Priests and Pastors wearing suicide vests?

You're nuts. Plain and simple.