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    Quote Originally Posted by ltorlo64 View Post
    Give it a few minutes. LAGC will point out that this is a "right wing website" and the information can be disregarded.
    I find it amazing that those so-called, "right wing websites" seem to have far more truth in them than the Liberal CMSM websites.

    Maybe, that's why leftists hate them so much....go figure...
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    He is right, it has to stop .... now!

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    This is a very concise point-by-point rebuttal to the ATF:

    http://georgiacarry.com/national/M85...nts_of_GCO.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltorlo64 View Post
    Give it a few minutes. LAGC will point out that this is a "right wing website" and the information can be disregarded.
    Only when it comes to their science reporting...

    They can have at the ATF all they want. They're out of control...

    At this rate, I'll be lucky if .22LR is even still legal by the time I ever get my gun rights restored.
    "That tyranny has all the vices both of democracy and oligarchy is evident. As of oligarchy so of tyranny, the end is wealth; (for by wealth only can the tyrant maintain either his guard or his luxury). Both mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms." -- Aristotle, Book V, 350 B.C.E

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Only when it comes to their science reporting...

    They can have at the ATF all they want. They're out of control...

    At this rate, I'll be lucky if .22LR is even still legal by the time I ever get my gun rights restored.
    Doesn't matter, you'll never find it for sale anyway.

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    The NRA's effort seems legit (as usual). In 48 hours they got 40% of the House on board, and I assume can get many more within a week or so.

    I also emailed my two SC Senators and my US Representative.

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    well that's just fucking great, I just went to walmart and all of the .223 is gone, even the 55 gr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAPOTS View Post
    well that's just fucking great, I just went to walmart and all of the .223 is gone, even the 55 gr.
    Yesterday I ordered 2k of XM193 for $300/k plus shipping. Today the best I can find is $400/k. Even steel cased is going for $300/k.

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    Guys, think about it for a minute.

    The sheep are spooked and the gougers have started buying because like the hyenas they are, they see an opportunity. It is one thing to hoard up 10,000 rounds of .22 but it is another to do it with .223/5.56

    The douchebags are thinking they can score like they have been with the .22 and I have already seen these pricks trying to sell their green tip for $400/500rounds...let them stockpile it away and try to sell it later. It will be very clear later on who these people are when they post their adds.

    Fortunately on this forum no one is going to get spanked when they call someone out for gouging in the classified area.

    Screw them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking350 View Post
    Yesterday I ordered 2k of XM193 for $300/k plus shipping. Today the best I can find is $400/k. Even steel cased is going for $300/k.
    2k for $300? Was that wolf or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 308 View Post
    2k for $300? Was that wolf or what?
    Nope. Federal / Independence. It was 2k @ $300 per k, total $600ish.xm193.jpg

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    Here's why, and how, this "change" came about:

    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editor...bullet-ban.htm

    Obama is out of control.
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    It's a done deal, boys and girls, even though the comment period does not expire for 10 days....

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepa...ition-n1966761

    When you look at the last page of the new, most recent ATF 2014 Regulation Guide, which was published in January, there is no longer an exemption for AR-15 "green-tip" ammunition.
    March 16, 2015: The comment period about the proposed/already implemented ban on AR-15 "green-tip" ammunition closes, ATF ignores tens-of-thousands of comments because they were never going to consider them in the first place, and continues with the regulations outlined in the new 2014 Regulation Guide.

    ATF changed the law unilaterally, didn't tell anyone about it and has now put up a bogus comment period that means nothing. Because of these actions, ATF and the White House have not only failed to follow the Administrative Procedure Act, but has gone around Congress to violate the Second Amendment rights of Americans.

    So, what' next? ATF is going to have to explain why the change was made under the radar and will also have to explain what this means for people in possession of "green-tip" ammunition after January 2015 when the new ATF Regulation Guide was published with the exemption missing. Is there no grandfathering period for possession? When will manufactures be forced to stop producing? What does this mean for buyers and sellers? States are also going to have to find a way to implement these regulations and define compliance under separate state ammunition possession laws.
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    This is just great! I'm sure they will get away with this! Just like Hitler did sometime ago! History is repeating itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by recon View Post
    This is just great! I'm sure they will get away with this! Just like Hitler did sometime ago! History is repeating itself.

    Hitler was out of control.

    Obama is out of control.
    "Valar morghulis; valar dohaeris."

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    So more of this ammo was coming in anyway! WTF!


    President Obama is now blatantly breaking the law in an effort to ban one of the most popular types of ammunition for the AR-15 semi-automatic weapon, and the timing comes just before a massive amount of supply of the bullets is due to arrive in the U.S., according to Gun Owners of America Chief Counsel Michael Hammond.

    Last month, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or ATF, announced it was planning to fast-track a ban on 5.56 mm M855 ammunition through executive action.

    Hammond said the timing is not a coincidence.

    “There is a massive backlog of M855 ammunition from NATO, which was about to come onto the American market as a result of the fact NATO is being encouraged to go from lead to copper ammunition,” Hammond said.

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