So, there is a movie being made of Steinbeck's In Dubious Battle. That's cool, but I'm already hearing they have moved it from California to Georgia? At least some of it was filmed in Georgia. It was one of the books my son read to me at night (homeschooled). Yeah, I know it's a handy tool for the left, but it's a good read none the less.
They didn't move from California to Georgia for any political purposes. It was all a part of them having a low budget and trying to get cheap labor (or try to get cheap labor).....Originally Posted by Altarboy
LOL. I know a guy who turned down work for that movie. Apparently the production company was so low budget (they got a great cast but blew all their money on the acting talent and kept NONE for the crew or other expenses) that they burned a lot of bridges in California. They couldn't film here and even tried to finish their filming in Washington State.
There were a lot of rants online about this movie, about how lower level people STILL to this day have not been paid.
Also there was some real stupid gun shit in there (I've seen production photos online), like where they have a Browning 1919 30 cal machine gun but mounted on a .50 cal Ma Deuce mount and ammo cradle (with no ammo box) on top of a vintage truck.
Wow.That's crazy. It's a great read.Steinbeck writes in a way that you are there. The scenes and smells come alive. His novel East of Eden was made into a movie and they started the movie two-thirds of the way through the book. Literally the first two thirds of the book was left out. The Grapes of Wrath is probably in my favorite five books of all time- except for the weird creepy ending. Hollywood did that novel pretty good justice. Of Mice and Men was very well done. Malkovitch and Sinise were amazing,.
Check it out. Remember how I mentioned them putting an M1919 30 cal Machine gun into a mount with a 50 cal ammo can holder?
Did you notice that the primers have all been struck on the rounds in the can, or am I seeing something that is not there?
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They look struck to me, too.
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Considering that they have to rent those weapons as props, you really think they would have live rounds/primers for actors to fuck around with.
I remember watching one movie where they had a close up of spent shells from an M-60 hitting the floor. They were "bottled nosed" blanks.
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Hope you're kidding. NO ONE would EVER bring live ammo to a set where douchebag actors can get their paws on it. Of COURSE the primers are dented. That's how the armorers and set crew knows it's a dud round. You guys really expect anyone to have live ammo (not blanks) on a movie set? On what planet??
Well now, ain't that the point I just made?
No enemy of America would have ever been killed if they didn't show up to be killed. HDR
You didn't have the question mark at the end, thus changing the tone of the quote. Without the question mark, it wasn't ironic, it seemed like you were supporting the idea of live ammo on set. Now that I read the same words WITH the "?" I now understand what you meant.
Ah, quite right. I missed the "?", and it does change the statement if it's missing.
No enemy of America would have ever been killed if they didn't show up to be killed. HDR
No, I wouldn't. Considering how they work so hard to make fakes of everything else look real I would have expected more from them is all.
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"HATE IS GOOD, WHEN ITS DIRECTED AT EVIL." PROBASCO, April 20, 2012
I tried to push the envelope, but found that it was stationery.
Have you heard about the new corduroy pillows? They're making head lines!
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Yeah, but in the movies you never get close up shots of ammo like that. Those were only photos shot between scenes.
No enemy of America would have ever been killed if they didn't show up to be killed. HDR
I think you don't realize WHY that is a bad idea. I know a LOT of movie weapons guys and they all say, the only really safe way to visually verify that NO ONE has slipped live ammo on a set without you knowing is to have all rounds that have a bullet in them to have dented primers. (sure some films HAVE in the past made a point to show dead or inert primers (With no dent) in closeups, but for the most part that is rare). Blanks are obvious. They're either bottlenosed or star crimped. They're the ONLY ammo on set that is allowed to have live primers. The entire Brandon Lee debacle could have been avoided if they did NOT send the gun handler home at midnight, and then decide ON THEIR OWN to film the fateful scene four hours later with no expert on set.
That is interesting to know tank_monkey. Thanks for sharing. In general, I don't get too worked up over movies. When it comes to being realistic or accurate, most of them are pretty far off.
You are right, I had not thought of it quite like that. Very interesting.I think you don't realize WHY that is a bad idea. I know a LOT of movie weapons guys and they all say, the only really safe way to visually verify that NO ONE has slipped live ammo on a set without you knowing is to have all rounds that have a bullet in them to have dented primers. (sure some films HAVE in the past made a point to show dead or inert primers (With no dent) in closeups, but for the most part that is rare). Blanks are obvious. They're either bottlenosed or star crimped. They're the ONLY ammo on set that is allowed to have live primers. The entire Brandon Lee debacle could have been avoided if they did NOT send the gun handler home at midnight, and then decide ON THEIR OWN to film the fateful scene four hours later with no expert on set.
On a slightly different note, I live not to far away from the NRA National Firearms Museum in Fairfax, VA. They have a display of TV and movie guns from various famous films or used by famous actors. Some of the weapons that I thought were so cool in the movie, up close turn out to be cheap rubber/plastic replicas! Film doesn't just cover up imperfections on humans.
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"HATE IS GOOD, WHEN ITS DIRECTED AT EVIL." PROBASCO, April 20, 2012
I tried to push the envelope, but found that it was stationery.
Have you heard about the new corduroy pillows? They're making head lines!
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Oh yeah!!!! I've SEEN a lot of these actors and actresses in person! Wow. They do NOT look so good in the flesh!
I know she's not known as a super beauty but Lisa Kudrow from FRIENDS, I was standing in front of her on a street once and she was talking to someone on the phone and I swear, I thought she was a homeless skank, except for the good clothes and handbag.hahahaha
To be honest, I've seen and handled a few of those famous movie guns (the ones that were real). One thing I noticed is just how banged up and beat up they are. I hear that actors are the biggest douchebags when it comes to abusing firearms.
Cliff Curtis, the character actor who plays everything from Colombian drug lords, to FBI agents, to gangsters, to Middle Eastern terrorists, etc. is one of those guys who apparently will NEVER hand you back a gun when the take is over. He just throws the gun to the ground each time and expects the props people to pick it up. I've heard so many props guys bitch about that actor..... Can you imagine some douchebag is using your gun for a shot and after the take, you ask "Can I have the gun back now?" after the take and he intentionally throws it to the ground and walks away instead of handing it to you?
He's only abusive to crew members, but people do talk about guys who are horrors on set.
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