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    Question about an SBR AR-15 kit

    Total noob question, but I can't help but ask. In the back of my mind I've been wanting an SBR'd AR for quite some time, and I finally convinced myself it's my next toy (after a LR308), so I need to ask you guys:

    Would this be legal to own (without assembling it, of course) with a seperately-placed (my dad's house) lower reciever without the tax stamp?

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=195435917

    I don't know thing one about tax stamps, so any additional info I could come back to when I decide to pick this up would be greatly appreciated. (Like do I have to engrave the lower, do I hate to include serial #'s when I send out the tax stamp, etc.)
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    To SBR a rifle or shotgun, the receiver is the part that is registered. Certainly it could be construed as intent to have a kit and unregistered receiver together and I would imagine it would be tempting to put them together to see what you might have.

    Get a receiver, apply for the tax stamp using the serial number from your receiver, wait the 3 months then once approved and you have stamp in hand, get you an upper for it.

    First thing is you should find out if your CLEO (Chief Law Enforcement Officer/Sheriff) is friendly to such items. If so, get the sheriffs office to take 2 copies of your finger prints, fill out the forms, get 2 passport photos and send them the $200 check. Everything is submitted in duplicate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    To SBR a rifle or shotgun, the receiver is the part that is registered. Certainly it could be construed as intent to have a kit and unregistered receiver together and I would imagine it would be tempting to put them together to see what you might have.

    Get a receiver, apply for the tax stamp using the serial number from your receiver, wait the 3 months then once approved and you have stamp in hand, get you an upper for it.

    First thing is you should find out if your CLEO (Chief Law Enforcement Officer/Sheriff) is friendly to such items. If so, get the sheriffs office to take 2 copies of your finger prints, fill out the forms, get 2 passport photos and send them the $200 check. Everything is submitted in duplicate.
    Good advise, heed it. Get your receiver, the form, finger prints, your passport sized mug shot photo and send it all in with the money after filling out. Wait 3 or 4 months then go buy your AR15 shorty upper. BTW they can be problematic to get reliable function. If you're thinking suppressor as well I'd say stay at 10 to 11". BATFE likes to use something called "Constructive Intent" to ruin people's lives with. They always assume you are guilty and prosecute accordingly.
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    Yeah, I totally fouled up what I was trying to say. I meant to say "without the tax stamp being completed."

    But I appreciate it, guys. Great info! Now do I absolutely need the lower reciever engraved?

    Get a receiver, apply for the tax stamp using the serial number from your receiver, wait the 3 months then once approved and you have stamp in hand, get you an upper for it.
    I'll be sure to do just that. Thanks a lot!

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    You might be reading too much into it. The manufacturers information on the receiver you purchased to SBR will be the information you submit to ATF. Once the receiver is SBR'ed it will always be considered an SBR (not just when you take off the upper) You will not be able to just sell it to your friend when you get broke in the future unless he submits the appropriate paperwork as you did to acquire it.

    To my knowledge there is no special engraving that you have to do unless the law has changed. The stamp we are referring to is just that. A large stamp just like one from the post office that you lick and stick on an envelope. Only difference is it is a $200 stamp and must accompany the firearm with the approved paperwork whenever you are using it.

    Do a search on ATF Form 1 or ATF F 1 to get a better idea. It is really not that hard. It is a very simple procedure as long as you are of age, your CLEO signs off on it, and you don't have any felony convictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    It is a very simple procedure as long as you are of age, your CLEO signs off on it, and you don't have any felony convictions.
    Well I'm two for three, as I'm not too sure the CLEO will sign in on it, but I sure hope so.

    Anyone else chime in on the engraving question?

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