http://www.ijreview.com/2016/05/5981...ntent=politics
"libertarian party" and "gary johnson" searches skyrocketed on Google...
http://www.ijreview.com/2016/05/5981...ntent=politics
"libertarian party" and "gary johnson" searches skyrocketed on Google...
We found out what "dealing" with progressive lefties is all about. Our side gives up something, they give up nothing and the progressives come back in a month or a year and want us to give up more... rinse and repeat...
people looking to spoil the ballot and as a result support hillary.
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Yep, like I have posted many times, with firearm owners and others pissed at the republican party, all they are doing is allowing the further destruction of our freedoms by allowing a known freedom hater to get elected.
Yes friends, vote third party and then don't complain about losing your firearm rights when the first queen of the formerly free United States gets sworn in.
Nope. Just people who are sick of both parties sending our rights down the drain and realizing that the GOP isn't even working as much of a brake on the runaway train as we all had been hoping. The GOP either needs to be destroyed, or reinvented with Libertarian thinkers under its wing to get back on course. You cannot claim to be for liberty and continue to support a party that squanders a piece of it away to get something else thwy want every time they hit a snag trying to get it.
"Never take pity on a blind man. He may not be able to see, but he saves a fortune by getting the butt ugly hookers".
Just to drive this point home:
Donald Trump is a business man. A very good one at that. Also one who by his own statements does not value freedom of speech, or the right to bear arms. His first 2-4 years with a Republican majority will go swimmingly I am sure. It will be a regular merry affair for the right wing I am sure. But then comes kick back from the left and moderate. These people, unhappy withabout how things are going, vote democrats in to replace the Republican incumbents. He now needs to make deals to get shit done. Anyone care to take a fucking guess what he barters away? Our bill of rights, that's what. That damn well includes our precious boom sticks, and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if our fuck sticks went with them if it was a viable means to meet his goals.
Last edited by Aggressive Perfector; 05-05-2016 at 03:06 AM.
"Never take pity on a blind man. He may not be able to see, but he saves a fortune by getting the butt ugly hookers".
What you miss is that the Libertarian Party and Gary Johnson are targeting the "NeverTrump" people, they are not targeting all voters. What this means, unless something drastically changes, is Democrats/liberal minded independents vote for Secretary Clinton and Republicans/conservative minded independents split the vote between Trump and Governor Johnson. While this will mean that Trump does not become President, it also assures that Secretary Clinton will. She will appoint a SCOTUS Justice to replace Scalia and probably at least 2 more as others die or retire. She will push her anti-Constitution agenda. Understand that the next thing I write is not an accusation against Governor Johnson, it is not. If I were the Democrats and Secretary Clinton I would be donating money (anonymously) to Governor Johnson and any Libertarian PACs to ensure this split happens. It is the most sure way to victory for Secretary Clinton.
"Nothing ever gets so bad that government "help" can't make it worse." Pat Garrett, March 22, 2014
"HATE IS GOOD, WHEN ITS DIRECTED AT EVIL." PROBASCO, April 20, 2012
I tried to push the envelope, but found that it was stationery.
Have you heard about the new corduroy pillows? They're making head lines!
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I hate to say it, but I can't help but think her tyranny might be what it takes to get more people to realize how far gone this country is. We need a revolution. If not through bloodshed, then through a new party. The GOP is broken. And unfortunately almost as bad as the democrats in terms of being pro big government. I have also noted MANY pro Trump golks who take all his speeches at face value and seem to be overwhelmingly devoted to him like Nazi's to Hitler and favoring views so far to the fucking right that they encourage things akin to going on witch hunts and burning fags at the stake. Due process be damned. I haven't witnessed it here, thank fuck, but if there's one thing I hate as much as a leftist socialist, it's an authoritarian right winger.
ETA: The LP didn't target the "never Trump" crowd. The never Trump crowd is courting them. The GOP needed a kick in the ass. 3 candidates were poised and willing to do so. Paul and Cruz, though not always on the same page, were from the same book. Both were far from GOPe favorites. Paul, being a hybrid Libertarian- Republican, leaning a little further right than the LP, and Cruz a little more so to the right TEA party republican. Both would have brought much welcome change to the party. The third candidate is Trump. While I have found his speeches thouroughly entertaining, I can't help but feel he is nothing if not insincere. For fucks sake he supported HilLIARy Clinton's previpjs run and has given tons of cash to the Democrats in the past. More so than he ever gave to the GOP.
Last edited by Aggressive Perfector; 05-05-2016 at 06:32 AM.
"Never take pity on a blind man. He may not be able to see, but he saves a fortune by getting the butt ugly hookers".
I don't care for Gary Johnson. His attitude towards Rand Paul earlier in the primaries combined with his own authoritarian views on certain topics pissed me off.
However, it's the Republicans and Democrats which have spoiled the not only the ballot, but the office itself.
The downfall of our Republic will come as the result of the inherent immorality of democracy. This is the result of the idea that the course of our lives should be determined by elections and therefore elected officials.
"I'm fucking furious, I'm violently angry, and I like it. If you don't know what that feels like then I feel bad for you"
Much as I love your Anarchist streak, it just paves the way for more tyrants to take hold an put heavier boots on our necks than the ones resting there.
"Never take pity on a blind man. He may not be able to see, but he saves a fortune by getting the butt ugly hookers".
"Nothing ever gets so bad that government "help" can't make it worse." Pat Garrett, March 22, 2014
"HATE IS GOOD, WHEN ITS DIRECTED AT EVIL." PROBASCO, April 20, 2012
I tried to push the envelope, but found that it was stationery.
Have you heard about the new corduroy pillows? They're making head lines!
NRA Endowment Member
"Nothing ever gets so bad that government "help" can't make it worse." Pat Garrett, March 22, 2014
"HATE IS GOOD, WHEN ITS DIRECTED AT EVIL." PROBASCO, April 20, 2012
I tried to push the envelope, but found that it was stationery.
Have you heard about the new corduroy pillows? They're making head lines!
NRA Endowment Member
"And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"
They said that there was no difference between Mccain and Obama, or Romney and Obama...
However, I don't think we would have had Justices Sotomayor or Kagan on the court if either Mccain or Romney were elected. We also wouldn't have had the "Arab Spring" or the surge of ISIS. There wouldn't be pending executive orders on gun control either. Obama Care wouldn't exist. Benghazi, Iran nuclear deal, restoration of relations with Cuba, the decimation of our armed forces, IRS scandal... Just to name a few "differences."
I wasn't a Mccain or Romney supporter, but I saw the bigger picture and voted for them in the general election anyways. We are already doing a hell of a lot worse than Trump... I don't think this country will survive another "Obama" term.
Don't forget... there is a vacancy on the Supreme Court. Do you really think the 2nd Amendment will survive with another leftist on the bench? There is a hell of a lot more at stake than your "conscience."
Last edited by AK-J; 05-05-2016 at 12:28 PM.
That the republicans will do anything except paint the facade to fit your cultural preferences. They'll leave our gun rights alone because they've learned in the past 10 years or so that ARs make us feel safe and free while they continue to support the federal reserve, crony capitalism, and the military industrial complex. So we'll still have Civil War II and World War III combined with global financial collapse, but at least you'll have your AR and abortions won't be quite as prolific (but of course it will never actually be out-right banned because that would eliminate your incentive to support one party or another).
"I'm fucking furious, I'm violently angry, and I like it. If you don't know what that feels like then I feel bad for you"
I held your same point of view up to 2012, but have since become disillusioned.
"I'm fucking furious, I'm violently angry, and I like it. If you don't know what that feels like then I feel bad for you"
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Commucrats are most efficient at converting sins and crimes to accidents or misunderstandings.-Oswald Bastable
Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless.
Freedom isn't free.
"Attitude is the paintbrush that colors our world." TV Series, Haven.
My Spirit Animal has rabies.
I'd rather be an American than a Democrat.
"If you can make a man afraid, you can control him" Netflix Series, The Irregulars
"I'm fucking furious, I'm violently angry, and I like it. If you don't know what that feels like then I feel bad for you"
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