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    Lightbulb Interesting Polling Analysis Attached..If True the MSM is Pure Propaganda

    Anon snagged this from Benenson Strategy Group. This would explain the disconnect between the MSM polling showing Hillary in the lead and the lackluster rally attendance. It shows Hillary losing to Trump "19-77% Nationally".

    media.wix.com/ugd/0cf371_514bfe6a2dec4871ab7da7d50b9be410.pdf
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    I've felt this all along. The only way Hitlery could be seen as a winner is for the CCMSMPO to lie about her numbers and publish that.

    The Hitlery camp is running scared and everything they control is rallying behind her to prop her up.

    The more they come up with to show her winning and to show Trump as unfit to be President, the more terrified they are.

    I have a feeling we'll see a blitzkrieg against Trump in the very near future.

    If they weren't worried about his numbers, or support, he wouldn't be in the news as much as he is.

    Another thing is the Wikileaks dumps. They weren't expecting anything like this last year. Their control over the whole voting process is slipping from their grasp with each passing day. And the days are running out.
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    The big thing here is that this is an internal campaign poll.

    Hillary knows she is going to lose...short of MASSIVE & FLAGRANT voter fraud. The desperation is so great that I expect they are going to pull out all the stops in the coming weeks.

    What's good news here is James O'Keefe dumping his videos.
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    they've been paying networks to "up" her polling % as well.
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    Tell a lie enough times and it becomes true, something that hillary lives by. Look at the numbers that show up at her rallies versus Trump. Trump speaks to overflow houses, hillary you have plenty of breathing room.

    And the news media loves lying about what Trump meant by his not wanting to commit before hand to agreeing to a hillary win, reserving his right to contest, yet they forget Algore contesting the Bush win, and the fact that hillary herself also contested Bush beating Gore.

    While I am still going to do all I can to make sure firearm owners need to know who to vote for, like him or not, I think this election's result is going to be very interesting.

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    Not sure if that was real. Benenson Strategy Group is a real firm and the address/phone number appear to be legitimate. I found the polling data interesting but then I got to the recommendations (listed as Non-Recommended Salvage Options) and that is when red flags started going off. Here are the non-recommended options; 1) Have UN forces invade the US by way of Canada; 2) Set off a dirty nuclear bomb; 3) BLM riots (the only one that really sounded plausible based on recent history); 4) Operatives would release mosquitos with a form of super Zika; 5) Institute Sharia law; 6) Set off a chain of earth quakes using "fracking bombs".

    No, I think this is meant to try to discredit Trump supporters. However, if the UN invades from Canada I will withdraw my statement.
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    I took pages 6 & 7 as a bitter inside joke on how there really is nothing they can do to salvage the campaign. But that is also why I put an "If True" in the subject line.
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    I've seen one killary sticker on a car at work, prolly the gay guy who says he loves killary. I've yet to see any yard signs extolling killary, however I see dem candidate signs all over but no mention is made of killary, just local dems. I see Trump signs everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5.56NATO View Post
    I've seen one killary sticker on a car at work, prolly the gay guy who says he loves killary. I've yet to see any yard signs extolling killary, however I see dem candidate signs all over but no mention is made of killary, just local dems. I see Trump signs everywhere.
    The vast majority of signs here are for Trump. While delivering stuff to schools the other day, I took a short cut through the black section and saw about 10 Hitlery signs. That's the ONLY place I've seen them so far. Still, it's about 100-1 Trump to Hitlery.
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    This is usually a hardcore Dem town, when Obama was running there were lawn signs everywhere, bumperstickers and even murals on building walls.

    Only a handful of yards with Hillary signs and very few bumperstickers, and the only even kinda large sign I've seen was one in front of the union hall for the steelworkers.

    Trumps been here a couple of times and Hillary just recently paid a visit. Both spoke to packed houses. Though it was kinda interesting that when Hillary spoke at the fairgrounds it was in the Ag Palace a much smaller venue than the events center where Obama spoke, Obama also held a huge downtown rally when he was here.

    Trump was at the convention center also a much larger venue.

    There certainly doesn't seem to be the same sort of enthusiasm here as Dems including Bill got when they were running.

    Though I doubt it will matter matter as the Dems run the elections and I'm sure she'll carry the local election regardless of the actual vote tallies.
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    The problem I see here is not the fact that NO ONE is enthusiastic about Hillary. No one is. That's why no one will go to her rallies.

    But.....

    The MSM is doing pretty well in making her the 'lesser of two evils', with their constant smearing of Trump on a daily basis. The reality is that there are tons of people who hate Hillary, but FEAR Trump more, due to the endless barrage of anti Trump hysteria.

    That will be tallied when THOSE PEOPLE go out to vote. I wish it were not true, but I think it is. This type of analysis is faulty in that there are tons of people who will vote against a candidate, versus FOR one. And they don't respond to polls because they don't know who they like.

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    Those people could be a real wild card in this election as they are in any election.

    They may vote Hillary or they may not vote at all.

    This is one of those elections that we won't know until election day or even after.......and there's still a lot that could happen in the next couple of weeks.

    Fear and hatred really seem to be the driving forces in this election....far more so than any election I can remember.

    Very bitter and divisive.
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    Considering how apathetic many of the run-of-the-mill democrat voters are, if they start buying into these poll numbers, they just might decide to stay home. They might think that if she is that far ahead, she doesn't need their vote and they will go out and get drunk, high, or whatever.
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    Where are we going and why are we in this handbasket???

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    The MSM is nothing more than a Propaganda Corps for the democraps. Nothing they broadcast or publish can be trusted.

    They'll should be the first to get knocked off the coming battlefield.
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