So how exactly do we know ASSAD used the chemical weapons?

[1 Patriot-of-many]

I'm more inclined to think the terrorists cough cough rebels did myself. What do you guys think? I smell a rat and it's not Assad.

[mrkalashnikov]

I've noticed that there hasn't been any mention of the type of chemical agent used. For all we know it could have been CS (tear) gas or some other non-lethal stuff. And yes, who knows what the source was.

[5.56NATO]

This will turn out to be the same as last time, the saudis provided the chems and the fools were making rounds with them, Russia just happened to bomb the chem weapons lab and it all spread out in the explosions. Of course the moderate isis rebels, controlled and armed/funded by cia, mossad, gulf states, and the saudis all say Assad did it.

[T2K]

I read that it was a nerve agent (not sure of the accuracy of that). I don't see why Assad, with support from Russia, with a winning war situation, and even with Trump saying that him leaving office is not a precondition now - would do this? I just don't see the reason. Which makes me think it wasn't him / his regime, BUT more info needed.

[l921428x]

I am thinking 5.56 is right on this.

[Richard Simmons]

I heard it reported that they used chlorine gas and sarin.

[jet3534]

I'm more inclined to think the terrorists cough cough rebels did myself. What do you guys think? I smell a rat and it's not Assad.

My thoughts, it is fake intel from the same intelligence agency that came up with the WMD justification for the Iraq war. There are people in the intel community that want a war with Assad. I am not sure why since Assad is fighting ISIS. Possibly because Assad is allied with Russia and the CIA possibly wants nothing more than conflict with the Ruskies - i.e., relive the glory days.

If my comments seem unlikely I strongly recommend the following book.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0010SIPZ8...ng=UTF8&btkr=1

[alismith]

To answer the thread question; we don't. We're left to the mercy of the fake news outlets.

However, since we know they're fake news, we can almost be sure that it's the opposite of what they're reporting.

[jet3534]

The bottom line question I think is this. If Muslims in another country are killing other Muslims in their own country (i.e., a civil war between Muslims) with nerve agents why do we care? And with respect to nerve agents dead is dead. Does the means of death really matter and if so why?

Call me a cynic but I still remember when we wiped out an aspirin manufacturing facility in Khartoum in 1998 that our intelligence agencies had falsely identified as a site making VX nerve gas for Ben Ladin. I am tired of the endless quest to promote democracy, overthrow dictators, and champion human rights around the world. How about we fix our own problems and focus on the 20 Trillion dollar debt. I voted for Trump in hopes he would focus on our problems, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is manipulated into some international crusade.

This alleged chemical attack could be false intel, a false flag attack, or even a real attack by Assad - but again if it was Assad why do we care?

There is clearly some behind the scenes BS going on with Syria. This was obvious when the Trump/Clinton debates had so much focus on Allepo.

[Krupski]

I'm more inclined to think the terrorists cough cough rebels did myself. What do you guys think? I smell a rat and it's not Assad.

Same way we know Saddam had WMD.....

[Krupski]

And with respect to nerve agents dead is dead. Does the means of death really matter and if so why?

Given a choice between a firing squad or a "cartel style" execution (skin you alive followed by burning alive), which would you choose?


Does the means of death really matter? (thought so)

[stevelyn]

We don't. For all we know those photos were staged by ISIS or the Muzz Bro'hood fucks that are behind the rebellion.

[jet3534]

Given a choice between a firing squad or a "cartel style" execution (skin you alive followed by burning alive), which would you choose?


Does the means of death really matter? (thought so)

Well with respect to myself, you, or any other American the means of death would matter. When it comes to Muslims in another country killing each other it does not matter to me. I guess that makes me a bad person. They already kill people by every means, I just don't see the addition of nerve gas into the picture a show stopper in terms of not getting involved.

[Krupski]

Well with respect to myself, you, or any other American the means of death would matter. When it comes to Muslims in another country killing each other it does not matter to me. I guess that makes me a bad person. They already kill people by every means, I just don't see the addition of nerve gas into the picture a show stopper in terms of not getting involved.

Oh I see. I missed your point before. I agree. A dead muzzie is a good muzzie. Doesn't matter how.

[1 Patriot-of-many]

It seems we're all skeptical... If it was Sarin and it happened, who has more to gain using it? Certainly not Assad and also didn't Obama and numerous dems tell us there was no chemical weapons in Syria after their deal? The whole thing smells, the videos look staged like the last time. I hope Trump doesn't fall into this trap. If we hit Syrian bases, Russia isn't going to sit idly by. This could escalate into WWIII.

[Richard Simmons]

I don't see this escalating into another world war but I also don't see why we need to get involved? Then again we really don't know how badly the last administration has screwed things up behind the scenes. If Russia is actively involved do we need to as well? Even if neither side is actually fighting the other they end up in a proxy war with both nations battling through surrogate armies.

It would be a different story if it just involved the Syrian government fighting rebels. Basically what we did to gain our independence from England though even then we had help from France which was an antagonist of England even though the two may not have been at war at that time

The whole situation with the involvement of Russian, Syrian, Isis, etc., is a cluster f&$k

[5.56NATO]

The bottom line question I think is this. If Muslims in another country are killing other Muslims in their own country (i.e., a civil war between Muslims) with nerve agents why do we care? And with respect to nerve agents dead is dead. Does the means of death really matter and if so why?

Call me a cynic but I still remember when we wiped out an aspirin manufacturing facility in Khartoum in 1998 that our intelligence agencies had falsely identified as a site making VX nerve gas for Ben Ladin. I am tired of the endless quest to promote democracy, overthrow dictators, and champion human rights around the world. How about we fix our own problems and focus on the 20 Trillion dollar debt. I voted for Trump in hopes he would focus on our problems, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is manipulated into some international crusade.

This alleged chemical attack could be false intel, a false flag attack, or even a real attack by Assad - but again if it was Assad why do we care?

There is clearly some behind the scenes BS going on with Syria. This was obvious when the Trump/Clinton debates had so much focus on Allepo.

How will the banksters justify another war that wall street forces will have to fight with you thinking like that?

Here's more on the alleged attack;
Evidence Calls Western Narrative About Syrian Chemical Attack Into Question
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...ident-question

[sevlex]

https://twitter.com/twidder_bird/sta...53042590416896



https://twitter.com/powerpuffsama2/s...06853915779077

[number6]

Through autopsies performed on the dead children, the doctors reported it was sarin gas. This has been on the news.

[alismith]

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm having trouble feeling sorry for any islamists.