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    Illinois State Official: "We Are In Massive Crisis Mode, This Is Not A False Alarm"
    As reported previously, the state Transportation Department said it would stop roadwork by July 1 if Illinois entered its third consecutive fiscal year without a budget - the longest such stretch of any US state - while the Powerball lottery said it may be forced to dump Illinois over its lack of budget. For now, state workers have continued to receive pay because of court orders, but school districts, colleges and medical and social service providers are under increasing strain.

    And yet, despite the sharp selloff in Illinois GO bonds which some had expected could force the two sides to reach a bargin, neither the Democrat-led legislature, nor Republicans governor Bruce Rauner appear closer to a consensus. Which probably explains today's Associated Press "shock piece" exposing just how serious the situation could become in under two weeks absent a resolution. It focuses on state Comptroller Susana Mendoza - who has had the unenviable job of essentially sitting at the kitchen table trying to figure out how to pay the bills - who is warning that the previously discussed new court orders in lawsuits filed by state suppliers that are owed money mean her office is required to pay out more than Illinois receives in revenue each month. That means there would be no money left for so-called “discretionary” spending - a category that in Illinois includes school buses, domestic violence shelters and some ambulance services.

    “I don’t know what part of ‘We are in massive crisis mode’ the General Assembly and the governor don’t understand. This is not a false alarm,” said Mendoza, a Chicago Democrat.

    “The magic tricks run out after a while, and that’s where we’re at.”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...ot-false-alarm


    Picture Chitcago without ebt for a few days.

    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Well darn I guess you can't have unlimited public spending to support all of your favorite social programs forever.

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    Easy fix, make Chicago its own city state, the rest of the state will flourish, and according to many Chicago people, Chicago doesn't need the rest of the state, so it's a win win for everyone.
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    Hopefully the US taxpayer won't have to bail them out. This is a classic example of why public sector unions should not support unsustainable government spending.

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    Dammit. Doesn't everyone know that socialist states aren't supposed to tank?
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    That whole state is corrupt. Just imagine all the tolls on the States highways and even in the city of Chicago itself... Where is all that money going? There's gotta be thousands of tolling places and it ain't cheap. It's gotta be one of the biggest hubs of traffic in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet3534 View Post
    Hopefully the US taxpayer won't have to bail them out. This is a classic example of why public sector unions should not support unsustainable government spending.
    Public sector unions shouldn't exist. It should be unlawful to form one. No one is there to truly counter them. Private is fine, You have the employer as a counter weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    That whole state is corrupt. Just imagine all the tolls on the States highways and even in the city of Chicago itself... Where is all that money going? There's gotta be thousands of tolling places and it ain't cheap. It's gotta be one of the biggest hubs of traffic in the US.
    There isn't a toll south of Joliet, tolls are only in Chicago and its crony counties
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    Public sector unions shouldn't exist. It should be unlawful to form one. No one is there to truly counter them. Private is fine, You have the employer as a counter weight.
    I have never understood the liberal push for private sector unions. They want the state to supply all our needs because the state is the only entity responsible and trustworthy enough to handle this task fairly, but they don't trust government to pay those who work in government fairly. They talk out both sides of their mouths on this.
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    "The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher

    Illinois in a nut shell.
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    Also keep in mind cafr, comprehensive annual financial report, where most every city is allowed to keep two sets of books, one hiding their vast fortunes.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5F7BFsWot4

    So while chitcago might say they're broke, maybe they're not and just want to say they are.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    A fun read;

    "Illinois is like Venezuela now, a fiscally broken state that has lost its will to live, although for the moment, we still have enough toilet paper.

    But before we run out of the essentials, let's finally admit that after decade upon decade of taxing and spending and borrowing, Illinois has finally run out of other people's money.

    Those "other people" include taxpayers who've abandoned the state. And now Illinois faces doomsday.

    So as the politicians meet in Springfield this week for another round of posturing and gesturing and blaming, we need a plan.

    And here it is:

    Dissolve Illinois. Decommission the state, tear up the charter, whatever the legal mumbo-jumbo, just end the whole dang thing.

    We just disappear. With no pain. That's right. You heard me."
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...20-column.html


    However, I can't see Indiana being interested in illnoise whatsoever, we have enough chitcago-like cesspools like Gary, east Indy, etc etc already.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    "You Want To Play Chicken? Let's Play Chicken" Maine Governor Threatens Shutdown Over Proposed Tax Hike
    "I will tell you this: If they put a tax increase, ready for a shutdown. End of story," LePage said in a Thursday interview on Maine's WGAN radio. "They're playing chicken at 100 miles per hour and I'm telling you something, you want to play chicken, let's play chicken."
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...own-over-propo
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Comptroller Susana Mendoza's office earlier in the week had offered to pay an additional $150 million per month, but the plaintiffs rejected it, saying it wasn't enough. The $150 million would have only cost the state $75 million because of the federal match, and Mendoza's office said that was all the state could spare while meeting other demands.

    Now, Mendoza said Friday's ruling would cause her to likely have to cut payments to the state's pension funds, state payroll or payments to local governments. Payments to bond holders won't be interrupted, she said.


    "As if the governor and legislators needed any more reason to compromise and settle on a comprehensive budget plan immediately, Friday's ruling by the U.S. District Court takes the state's finances from horrific to catastrophic," Mendoza said in a statement. "A comprehensive budget plan must be passed immediately."

    In court arguments Wednesday, patients' attorney David Chizewer likened the situation to a misbehaving child provoking a frustrated parent.

    "What they secretly want is for the parent to step in and stop the behavior," Chizewer said. "I think the state is asking the court to step in."
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...630-story.html
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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