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    How do you think the left would react to hand-held laser weapons?

    Say hand-held laser carbines/pistols were a reality. They have a shot capacity that is only limited by the juice in the battery. Like a laser sight, they would have unlimited range but the power of the laser would be less effective as the distance increases. Technically they wouldn't even be classified as a firearms, therefore they would be unregulated at first. Do you think the ATF would classify them as destructive devices? What kinds of "evil features" would the lefties ban?
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    We have already had people get in trouble for using laser pointers to distract/blind pilots in planes. They have ones now that are intense enough to start paper on fire from a close distance. If it can get "weaponized" I can see them putting restrictions on it. A switchblade is just a fancy knife but it is illegal in many places to own. They categorized civilian ARs as assault weapons when by definition they are not. I can see them making an effort to get them classified somehow to limit who can own one. Just my thoughts on that.

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    IIRC they are banned by the Geneva convention. I doubt they'd ever be legal.

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    They're shitty weapons anyway, its only going to poke a hole the diameter of the beam

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    Like a boolit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by l921428x View Post
    Like a boolit?
    No bullets tumble, break apart, and dump kinetic energy. If you don't have a shitty bullet its going to leave a permanent cavity larger than itself and tear up organs along the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    IIRC they are banned by the Geneva convention. I doubt they'd ever be legal.
    listed arms only be illegal against standing armies.




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    Quote Originally Posted by skorpion View Post
    Say hand-held laser carbines/pistols were a reality. They have a shot capacity that is only limited by the juice in the battery. Like a laser sight, they would have unlimited range but the power of the laser would be less effective as the distance increases. Technically they wouldn't even be classified as a firearms, therefore they would be unregulated at first. Do you think the ATF would classify them as destructive devices? What kinds of "evil features" would the lefties ban?

    • A pistol grip that "protrudes conspicuously"
    • A barrel shroud
    • "That Thing" that goes up over the shoulder
    • A threaded muzzle designed to accept a sound suppressor
    • A bayonet lug used for those pervasive drive-by knifings
    • A battery capable of more than 10 shots of the laser (nobody needs more than 10 laser shots to kill a deer)
    • Any laser that accepts a detachable battery pack
    • Any "armor piercing" laser
    • Any laser that looks "scary" or "military"
    • Any laser that emits energy in the range of red, green, blue, infrared or ultraviolet
    • Any laser that emits more than 1.21 jigga-watts of energy
    • Any laser disguised as a laser pointer or paintball rifle
    • Any lens, filter or other optical device intended to focus or concentrate the laser energy
    • Any laser that Hitlery Klinton, Dianne Feinswine or Up-Chuck Schumer doesn't like



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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    No bullets tumble, break apart, and dump kinetic energy. If you don't have a shitty bullet its going to leave a permanent cavity larger than itself and tear up organs along the way.
    If you are trying to make a point I am confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by l921428x View Post
    If you are trying to make a point I am confused.
    cup and core bullets expand or mushroom and expend their energy in the target. Thats why when you shoot a deer with a soft point it will be a hole the diameter of the bullet on the entry and a hole 4 times bigger on the exit.

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    An industrial laser went berserk at a place I worked at and started flailing around, it lased the floor and boiled concrete. I imagine a weapon like that would go clean through a person, or slice them up if strafed across them.
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    You can be blinded in a second by certain lasers even if they don't cut through you. Good reason they are outlawed in war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    They're shitty weapons anyway, its only going to poke a hole the diameter of the beam
    Blinding the enemy wholesale would be the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by l921428x View Post
    If you are trying to make a point I am confused.
    The point is that bullets do not just poke a whole the same diameter of the bullet

    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Patriot-of-many View Post
    Blinding the enemy wholesale would be the worst.
    If soldiers can't manage to hit a full size human, how in the hell are they going to get them directly in the eye? Pretty sure they did it much more effectively with gas in WWI

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    I expect when we have laser weapons redily available they will be highly regulated but they will cause previously forbidden things to have the control relaxed a bit on them., Back at the turn of the last century repeating rifles were considered un necessary for the public to own by the gun control freaks of that time. Now bolt actions are considered the least threatening by them,.

    So if the same thing happens then the AR-15 would be old news to them and become old news.


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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    If soldiers can't manage to hit a full size human, how in the hell are they going to get them directly in the eye?
    I am envisioning a machine that just shines everywhere like a disco ball.
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    Yeah that is what i was thinking also speaking of disco balls how are yours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rci2950 View Post

    I am envisioning a machine that just shines everywhere like a disco ball.
    You know what else causes permanent blindness? Getting shot in the eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raxar View Post
    You know what else causes permanent blindness? Getting shot in the eye.
    You'll put your eye out with that thing!
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