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    I agree. Now, in the internet and social media age, it's SO EASY for disinformation and misunderstandings to spread quickly.

    I still can't believe we now seem to have two dueling timelines since both the hotel and the police want to insulate themselves from lawsuits.

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    USA Liberty Act: New ‘Foreign’ Intelligence Law Will Legalize Spying On Americans
    e Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-VA), Ranking Member John Conyers (D-MI), Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI), and Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX) unveiled a new bill called the “USA Freedom Act,” which aims to reauthorize and modify the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). Without the renewal, FISA would expire at the end of this year.
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    Las Vegas Shooting Victim: “There Was 100% More Than One Shooter,” Gates To Concert Were Locked Shortly Before Attack
    “When something is coming up and down or at least from a different angle they are either going to hit the ground or… alot of different things are going to happen. When someone is shooting form a horizontal line its just going to keep shooting,” Palermo attempted to explain. Take note that what he means here is that people were being shot at from ground level rather than the 32nd floor of the hotel.
    Palermo then specifically heard the gun shots get “closer and closer” before quickly deciding it was once again time to run.
    Shockingly, he then goes on to detail the fact that at the end of the concert the previous two nights everyone had exited a specific way but on the night of the shooting this route was locked down shortly before the attack.
    “Every other night at the concert, everybody kinda exited right off Las Vegas Blvd, that was standard, that was routine, you get out of the concert and you go down to the next casino,” he continued.
    “At 10pm they closed every exit on Las Vegas Blvd, every single one. They gated them all closed with chain-link fences, 10:08 the shooting started and we were pigs sitting in a corral. We only had one exit to go out of…..everyone was just kinda following the sheep.”

    Vegas Security Guard Jesus Campos Skips 5 Interviews, Goes Missing — And Now His Family Is Under Gag Order
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ily-gag-order/
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    yeah, Campos disappearing just cranked things up a notch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    I was referring to your comment that it makes no sense to have that many guns. That may be true for most of us but for an insane person the same might not apply.

    Also if this was a totally planned, false flag event aimed at provoking gun control by once again killing or staging the killing of multiple Americans why not at least make sure the shooter was a member of the NRA? That would carry further and be much more plausible than the number of firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    Gotta link? Google isn't showing anything about a gunshot wound of any kind.
    I couldn't find the original link I saw that mentioned the gunshot to the chest, but this one sorta backs it up.

    https://archive.is/AhxQx#selection-1679.0-1695.117

    Bill Whitaker: Said one male down. That was the shooter?
    Matthew Donaldson: Yes.
    Bill Whitaker: Stephen Paddock?
    Bill Whitaker: What were his wounds?
    Dave Newton: I didn't see any apparent wounds to his head. But I did see a lotta blood that had come outta his mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sevlex View Post
    I couldn't find the original link I saw that mentioned the gunshot to the chest, but this one sorta backs it up.

    https://archive.is/AhxQx#selection-1679.0-1695.117
    When someone eats a gun you will get blood flow from the mouth. The photo I saw of Paddock laying on the floor was not a new sight. Looked like a lot of other folks that stick a gun in their mouth and pull the trigger.

    Had a guy stick a shotgun under his chin but leaned his head back as he was trying to reach the trigger. He survived. Now that looked nothing like Paddock. Actually it didn't look like anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sevlex View Post
    I couldn't find the original link I saw that mentioned the gunshot to the chest, but this one sorta backs it up.

    https://archive.is/AhxQx#selection-1679.0-1695.117
    If you look back at that picture that was posted of the shooter you can see where it looks like there is bloody hole in the middle of his chest. I would think that if he shot himself in the middle of the chest so that his bronchial tubes were compromised his mouth would fill with blood. It would also explain how the blood seemed to flow from his back out away from his head in a pool instead of being splattered away from his head when it hit the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltorlo64 View Post
    If you look back at that picture that was posted of the shooter you can see where it looks like there is bloody hole in the middle of his chest. I would think that if he shot himself in the middle of the chest so that his bronchial tubes were compromised his mouth would fill with blood. It would also explain how the blood seemed to flow from his back out away from his head in a pool instead of being splattered away from his head when it hit the ground.
    Word is he died in a shootout with fbi hrt, along with his accomplice security guard.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Las Vegas Sheriff Fights Back Against ‘Conspiracy’ Talk After Shooting Timeline Changes Multiple Times
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...e-times-video/
    of course

    Sheriff bans independent reporters from press conference
    http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/stranger-...-goes-missing/

    FBI 'Hand-In-Hand' With Vegas PD, Begin Damage Control: "There Is No Conspiracy... Nobody Is Attempt to Hide Anything"
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...-family-has-ga

    Where is Jesus Campos? First photo is released of 'hero' Las Vegas security guard who vanished just moments before he was scheduled to speak to the media about massacre
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4vV0xdI26

    Las Vegas Massacre Survivor Abruptly Dies Just Days After Posting Eyewitness Account Of Multiple Shooters And Subsequent Cover-Up
    http://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy-f...er-up_10132017

    The Less We Believe Them about Las Vegas, the More They Want Our Guns
    https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...-our-guns.html
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Did the wounded Mandalay Bay security guard witness other suspect or suspects make their escape from the 32nd-floor?
    https://www.intellihub.com/did-the-w...he-32nd-floor/
    this right here, I mean they have video of every hotel floor, who went up or down elevators, everything, so... where are those vids?

    Muzzle Flashes Seen Coming From Helicopter During Las Vegas Massacre
    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/must-...assacre_102017

    There Was An Active Shooter Targeting The Bellagio Hotel During The Las Vegas Massacre
    http://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy-f...sacre_10142017

    Vegas Security Guard Jesus Campos Checked Into Clinic Minutes Before Interviews
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...es-interviews/

    Vegas Police Block Investigative Reporter From Press Conference After She Exposes Security Guard Fraud
    https://freedomoutpost.com/vegas-pol...y-guard-fraud/

    ISIS Supporter Claims Las Vegas Was Successful ISIS Operation in US
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...-success-west/
    there's your cia/mossad/fbi tie in right there
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    As America Searches for Answers, Internet Notes Saudi Royals Own Hotel Rooms Above Vegas Shooter
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    According to Monika, the day unfolded nicely. The event was well underway, enthusiasm was high. The battle portion was coming to an end as sunset was approaching. At night, the attending girlfriends and wives, of the participants, who were attending would be invited down into the area of the tents for a night long party. However, just before this was to take place, a group from the audience noticed young men run into Confederate tents and drop “pipes” on the ground inside the Confederate tents.
    Subsequently, people from the audience began to yell “get them” referring to the young men running from the scene. Pipe bombs were indeed found. A small child had wandered into one of the tents and picked one up as he wandered back out to the crowd. Later, it was revealed that the only reason that this particular pipe bomb did not detonate was because it was on a timer. This fact save that child’s life.

    http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/20...ontrolled-msm/
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    So Campos isn't missing, and his interview with ELLEN (seriously, WTF?) will be aired today. It will all be hokey jokey "what were you feeling?" stuff, no additional facts.

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    My guess is some lawyer got to him and told him he could get him a bigger payday on something like Ellen than those network interviews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    My guess is some lawyer got to him and told him he could get him a bigger payday on something like Ellen than those network interviews.
    Not a chance. The FBI got to him, haven't you been paying attention. The FBI, in coordination with the same people who set up the Sandy Hook hoax. This guy doesn't even exist. I know because I asked my friends and none of them know any security guards who were shot. Don't be taken in.
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    Purple noted!

    I read excerpts from the interview. He definitely said that he was host before the shooting at the crowd started.

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    Las Vegas Still Makes No Sense
    Everything about this case leads nowhere. Exactly as I suspect was intended from the outset.
    http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/...sense.html?m=1

    GEORGE SOROS SHORTED MGM SHARES, MGM CEO SOLD 80% OF HIS MGM SHARES WEEKS BEFORE VEGAS MASSACRE
    http://usdefensewatch.com/2017/10/ge...egas-massacre/
    purely coincidental im sure

    Las Vegas Strip manhunt for multiple gunmen, one hour after Mandalay Bay shooting


    MGM Admits Lying About Hotel Guard Jesus Campos ‘Vanishing’ As Fears Grow Over Massive Lawsuits
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...sive-lawsuits/
    Last edited by 5.56NATO; 10-19-2017 at 12:44 PM.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    As chaos and blood flowed on the streets of the Las Vegas strip, a SWAT team was sent by the FBI to the Tropicana Las Vegas Hotel and Casino to secure and confiscate their surveillance footage of the massacre
    https://www.trunews.com/article/excl...vegas-massacre

    Helicopters May Have Been Used During Las Vegas Massacre, Heavily Armed Men Seen Gearing Up Near Helicopter On Night Of Attack
    http://www.thedailysheeple.com/repor...-attack_102017

    Las Vegas casinos are in bed with the police
    http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/las...ice/2017/10/20
    no kidding

    6 Questions About the Vegas Massacre That Will Make You Wonder What They’re Hiding
    https://freedomoutpost.com/6-questio...theyre-hiding/

    My MGM security sources believe MGM security guard Jesus Campos is a key part of this mess. There are many questions that need to be answered about Campos.
    He’s the only witness to the worst mass shooting in U.S. history and his only interview EVER was with a comedian (Ellen Degeneres) whose show is sponsored by MGM and who makes millions with her own slot machines at MGM casinos?

    https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/

    Hot Mic Catches Mystery Voice Telling Las Vegas Sheriff Not to Say Too Much
    https://www.americanewshub.com/2017/...m_source=palin
    Last edited by 5.56NATO; 10-20-2017 at 12:39 PM.
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    Second Shooter Spotted Firing From Billboard Into The Crowd During Las Vegas Massacre?
    http://www.shtfplan.com/conspiracy-f...sacre_10202017

    Mandalay Bay & MGM Ban OnSite Investigator - Armed Guards & FBI Agent Throw Him Out Of His Room
    https://freedomoutpost.com/mandalay-...nt-throw-room/
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    “They are just pulling so many bodies out of that Hooters,” a man’s voice can be heard saying at the 24-second mark. “I don’t know if people are dead — I don’t know if people are just injured — they just keep pullin’ them out though […] something definitely happened at Hooters though.”

    "A few moments later (after the gunfire in the venue subsided), Rick met back up with all five members of his group near a sign that they used for a landmark which was located between Hooters and Motel 6 and that’s when Rick said that he saw a “frantic stampede” of people fleeing Hooters.

    “[…] there was a bunch of people trying to get the hell away from Hooters so we did too,” he explained. “So we started running again.”
    Rick also pointed out that at one point one of his group members had witnessed “SWAT” guy enter Hooters through the back which he thought was suspicious. The scene was fluid and rapidly changing. Nobody could be trusted.
    At one point, the group was told that a shooter had stolen a police car which elevated concern."

    https://www.intellihub.com/bombshell...-the-massacre/
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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    The reason why the GEO Group link is so significant, is that prior to modern America’s largest mass shooting in Las Vegas, an apparent survivor of the incident was operating a foundation that was accepting financial support from a large-scale company formerly known as The Wackenhut Corporation, a subsidiary of G4S Secure Solutions, one of the world’s largest security firms, and a Department of Homeland Security connected conglomerate tied to the suspicious Orlando shooting in the summer of 2016 – an event, that was previously the country’s largest mass shooting.

    If you remember, 29-year old Omar Mateen, an Afghani-American was located in Port St. Lucie, Florida, about 120 miles outside of Orlando. In 2013, Mateen was placed under a terror watch list for 10 months (interviewed two to three times by the FBI 2013-14) and had worked for G4S Secure Solutions, headquartered in Jupiter, Florida, a company which was formerly part of a CIA-linked government contractor and security firm known as The Wackenhut Corporation.

    G4S, as it turns out, was the very first ‘designated’ and certified Department of Homeland Security (DHS) contractor and recently secured a $234 million dollar contract with the federal cabinet department. In addition to apparently providing security solutions for “90 percent of U.S. nuclear facilities,” G4S, according to border patrol sources has also been tasked with the transportation and release of illegal immigrants inside the interior of the United States. At least one of Mateen’s roles with G4S, was to transport and provide security for prisoner youths in Florida.
    http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/10/1...s-linked-firm/
    "And how we burned in the camps later thinking, what would things have been like, if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain, whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?"

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