INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER M-1 GARAND/M-1 CARBINE HELP

[wags2161]

Hoping that someone can help. A friend of mine has 3 rifles that he is selling since his father passed and I am interested in purchasing these but i'm not really sure on price etc.
1) International Harvester M-1 garand. The serial number I believe is# 50892xx. Cant really see the first number in the photo he sent me. The rifle has a little surface rust but other than that its clean..bore etc. Does anyone have any info on this rifle. He wants $900 for this rifle,

2) Winchester M-1 carbine. He states that it has an M-2 bolt in it. The rifle ser#12785xx. The rifle is clean. He wants $500 for this one

3) Inland Arms M-1 carbine Ser# 20262xx. This rifle is also clean. I did not notice any imports marks etc on these rifles. He want $500 for this one also.

Does anyone have any info on the value of these rifles. Checking on Gunbroker These guns have large price range differences. How do I know what its worth. ANY HELP would be great

[Full Otto]

International Harvester M-1 garand--- grab that

[wags2161]

Is it worth 900. Dont know much about it. HELP. I pretty much collect old 1911s so I dont have much of a clue

[wags2161]

Anything about the carbines OTTO?

[Schuetzenman]

Yes on the open market the International is worth 9 bills. It represents lowest amount of M1 Garand rifles built by the 4 that made them.

Springfield, Winchester both WWII makers. Sprinfield arsenal is the majority manufacturer for all M1 Garand rifles. H&R and International are Korean war era suppliers and International made the fewest as I said already. Springfield also made and refurbished M1's during the Korean war.

The Win carbine value is low by about 2 to 3 bills IMO. The Inland M1 is about right, maybe 1 bill low if we consider typical prices I see on such carbines. Inland is the winner for having made the most carbines.

[Full Otto]

Is it worth 900. Dont know much about it. HELP. I pretty much collect old 1911s so I dont have much of a clue

Haven't seen them that low in several years. Last I saw one was the receiver by itself.
Can't help you on the carbines but they are more common so if you have to choose I'd go with the IH. I'll see if I can find some info for ya


Here's a little bit
http://www.scott-duff.com/WhoHowManyWhen.htm
International Harvester Co.

In addition to manufacturing, Springfield Armory also assisted private industry to mobilize for M1 production. Two private firms received contracts to produce M1 rifles during this period. They were the International Harvester Company of Evansville, Indiana and Harrington & Richardson Arms Company of Worcester, Massachusetts.

International Harvester received its first M1 contract on 15 June 1951. It is believed they began delivery of rifles in early 1953 and ceased in early 1956. Ordnance Department records indicate International Harvester delivered 337,623 M1 rifles.

International Harvester encountered many difficulties in manufacturing M1s, several times relying upon Springfield Armory and Harrington & Richardson to provide them with receivers. This is not to infer that there is anything wrong with rifles produced by this manufacturer. All M1 rifles produced by all manufacturers were required to pass U. S. Army Ordnance inspection prior to acceptance and delivery. Problem rifles were either corrected or scrapped.

International Harvester did not make its own barrels. Barrels to support production of their rifles were manufactured by the Line Material Company of Birmingham, Alabama. These barrels were marked LMR on the side and are among the most accurate shooting service grade barrels produced.

In addition to their name on the receiver heel, M1s manufactured by International Harvester may be identified by assigned serial numbers. International Harvester serial number ranges are from 4400000 through 4660000 and 5000501 through 5278245.

http://www.gunvaluesboard.com/i-have.....-218424.html

there's more out there.
Price wise it's hard to say these days they were creeping up to 1800 a couple years ago but not sure that would hold today

[wags2161]

Thanks for the info. I'm going to purchase all three. i was more concerned that I was going to pay too much for these. Seems that the Winchester M1 carbine fetches more money than the Inland does.Why? In everyones opinion what should I pay for these. Does what he is asking seem reasonable or on the high end? On the Winchester carbine he says that it has an M-2 bolt. Does this make it worth more or less? Thanks guys for the info I am going to check the website links.Thanks again for the Help

[Full Otto]

Prices look very good. I think the M-2 rifles are full auto configuration as a whole rifle but you just have a bolt in a semi no biggie

[Schuetzenman]

Thanks for the info. I'm going to purchase all three. i was more concerned that I was going to pay too much for these. Seems that the Winchester M1 carbine fetches more money than the Inland does.Why? In everyones opinion what should I pay for these. Does what he is asking seem reasonable or on the high end? On the Winchester carbine he says that it has an M-2 bolt. Does this make it worth more or less? Thanks guys for the info I am going to check the website links.Thanks again for the Help

Did you read my post at all? Yes they're worth every penny he's asking and hundreds more. Is that plain enough for you? On why is a Winchester worth more it's real simple. Winchester didn't make as many as Inland Guide did and Winchester is and was a firearms maker of historical note. Inland was the frame maker for General Motors Corp.

Oher makers of carbines that are highly valued are; Rock-O-La the Juke box makers and IBM plus a couple more that escape my recall at the moment. I have a Postal Meter with a Union Switch and Signal subcontract receiver on it. Also a low numbers maker but not as highly prized as the Rocks and the IBM carbines.