POS keltek sub 2k

12oz Grape Soda · 05-01-2011, 11:25 AM

First off hello everyone I'm new here and wanted to say hello before I start asking for help. I've lurked around for a while and just joined up cuz this seams like a cool site. Anyway I bought a sub 9mm last year and my first range trip w it was very impressive. However the second trip was highly disappointing. After a couple hundred shots I noticed it was hitting to the left pretty bad. So I took it to the range guy and he was able to rotate the entire barrel about 180 degrees. I couldn't believe it. Nothing has happened to that gun. All it has done is sit in a gunsafe and only to the range twice. Does anyone know why this occured? I tried to contact kelltec w no luck. Anyone who owns this gun should check it out.

**AKTexas** · 05-01-2011, 11:31 AM

Welcome to the forum. Sorry for your pain.

My uncle has the Sub2k in .40. Other than having to replace the cheesy front sight they carbine has shot everything we have put in it. From factory FMJ to handloaded lead bullets. Accurate enough out to 75 yards off hand shooting rocks.

I'm not a fan of the other Kel-Tec products. Owning the PLR-16 and the pocket .380, neither were very accurate or reliable to trust my life with.

12oz Grape Soda · 05-01-2011, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by AKTexas

Welcome to the forum. Sorry for your pain.

My uncle has the Sub2k in .40. Other than having to replace the cheesy front sight they carbine has shot everything we have put in it. From factory FMJ to handloaded lead bullets. Accurate enough out to 75 yards off hand shooting rocks.

I'm not a fan of the other Kel-Tec products. Owning the PLR-16 and the pocket .380, neither were very accurate or reliable to trust my life with.

Tell him to grab the fsb and turn it to see if the barrel rotates. I really hope all these guns aren't made like this. Just terrible quality

**AKTexas** · 05-01-2011, 11:52 AM

We have been fairly rough on the little carbine but nothing like that.

**awp101** · 05-01-2011, 12:04 PM

How did you try to contact them?

I bought a used Sub2K that had FTE issues. I called and they said to send it back. Got it back a couple of weeks later in a factory box with accessories, manual and they'd replaced the bolt and bolt head. At no cost to me other than shipping it to them and they were fully aware I was not the original owner. If I had pressed the issue I probably could have gotten a call tag and had it shipped to them for free.

If I can find the Glock 9mm model that someone doesn't want an arm and a leg for when I have cash in hand, I'll have another.

**FunkyPertwee** · 05-01-2011, 12:05 PM

I wonder if the barrel really rotated or if it was the sight rotating around the barrel. I'm just wondering because you said you twisted it by the front sight block, and the kel-tec front sight block is notoriously cheesy.

BTW, another member here had one arrive with no rifling. It was smoothbore!

**TEN-32** · 05-01-2011, 12:14 PM

I guess they are hit or miss. Mine has been fun to tinker and plink with.

**mriddick** · 05-01-2011, 12:15 PM

I would bet it's the FSB as well. Keltec customer service also has a pretty good rep so this whole thing smells of misinformation.

**awp101** · 05-01-2011, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by TEN-32

I guess they are hit or miss. Mine has been fun to tinker and plink with.

Dude, it's not an AR. Why are you hanging 10# of crap on it?

**AKTexas** · 05-01-2011, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by TEN-32

I guess they are hit or miss. Mine has been fun to tinker and plink with.

You really can printerize anything. LOL Just jacking with you. How do you like the magpul sights on the sub?

**TEN-32** · 05-01-2011, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by awp101

Dude, it's not an AR. Why are you hanging 10# of crap on it?

I know...LOL. I bought the railed forend so I felt obligated.

**TEN-32** · 05-01-2011, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by AKTexas

You really can printerize anything. LOL Just jacking with you. How do you like the magpul sights on the sub?

The stock front sight is horrible...had to get rid of it. The Magpul works fine. And I don't keep a light on it...

**AKTexas** · 05-01-2011, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by TEN-32

I know...LOL. I bought the railed forend so I felt obligated.

Is the first gen rail or second? I read on the kel-tec owners forum that the first run had some failures.

**TEN-32** · 05-01-2011, 12:34 PM

Not sure AKT. Had it for maybe 2 or 3 years. No problems.

12oz Grape Soda · 05-01-2011, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by mriddick

I would bet it's the FSB as well. Keltec customer service also has a pretty good rep so this whole thing smells of misinformation.

If you break the gun open and look where the bullet sets in the barrel then turn the fsb you can clearly see the entire barrel rotating. (Not sure of the proper term, is that the breech) anyway trust me, the entire barrel turns until the fsb is flat then it won't turn ant further.

**TEN-32** · 05-01-2011, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by 12oz Grape Soda

If you break the gun open and look where the bullet sets in the barrel then turn the fsb you can clearly see the entire barrel rotating. (Not sure of the proper term, is that the breech) anyway trust me, the entire barrel turns until the fsb is flat then it won't turn ant further.

There is a nut that holds the barrel to the receiver. Just tighten it.

12oz Grape Soda · 05-01-2011, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by FunkyPertwee

I wonder if the barrel really rotated or if it was the sight rotating around the barrel. I'm just wondering because you said you twisted it by the front sight block, and the kel-tec front sight block is notoriously cheesy.

BTW, another member here had one arrive with no rifling. It was smoothbore!

I think they sell 9mm snake shot. That's horrible! Lol

**Solidus-snake** · 05-01-2011, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by TEN-32

There is a nut that holds the barrel to the receiver. Just tighten it.

I'm not sure id be too trusting of a gun that the barrel is held on by a nut. Just my preference though.

**Mark Ducati** · 05-01-2011, 02:09 PM

You really can PRINTERIZE anything.

OMG! That's Rich! LMAOSHMSFOAIDMT!

I just spewed DC onto my keyboard!

BTW, my Sub-2000 has been nothing but fun to shoot, no FTF's, no FTE's, no problemos... and the only reason(s) I bought it was #1 It folds nicely into my camping backpack or my day pack, and #2 it takes 33 round Glock mags

10#'s of crap? I hear ya, mine is all stock with the exception of installation of a smaller round forearm and a buffer... it's NOT an AR nor my "go-to" gun... its my "pack gun" when hiking in the national forest. I keep a pistol on my side regardless, but having a hi-cap carbine in the pack is nice in case I start hearing Banjo Music.