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    Hey, you are doing it.
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    So what type of anti seize should i use on the barrel so If I want i can change it out in the future with out mussing up my receiver ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abpt1 View Post
    So what type of anti seize should i use on the barrel so If I want i can change it out in the future with out mussing up my receiver ?
    Personally I never put anti-seize on my barrels. It would leach out and probably screw up my Gun Kote Refinising. My advise would simply be to put some Kroil on the barrel, it should crawl up into the threads. It can get behind scope optics, should be able to get in the threads.

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    Just waiting for a LS









    Thanks for the help guys!

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    Fantastic Job!
    I want to hear what you think of it after some range shooting.
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    I assembled my para this morning.
    Ready to fire later today after everyone is wide awake.





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    Quote Originally Posted by rahatlakhoom View Post
    I assembled my para this morning.
    Ready to fire later today after everyone is wide awake.







    Thats looks great !

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    What color is that exactly? Looks kind of OD green.

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    Gunkote OD from the can seemed too light. I mixed in satin black until
    I got a very dark green/grey.
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    Did a test fire yesterday i !



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    Quote Originally Posted by abpt1 View Post
    Did a test fire yesterday i !


    Ok .... AND what happened? How can you make an open ended post like that?

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    Well I was breaking in my DPMS so I was not really testing.... My DPMS is shoot one clean shoot one clean 0-200 rds so I was busy plus I dont have a bore sight so I was just trying to get it on paper ...

    I took one mag for my trouble some romy g and two mags for the fal.. The G is getting cut apart this after noon just cant fix the rails so I will start over....also my uncles new Savage mod 10 he was breaking in it shot awesome !

    The fal shot very nice All the brass was in perfect shape I checked 20-30 rounds and landed in one spot 4-5ft away around the 3oclock position. the Falcon arms TRP trigger reduction pack worked smooth and crisp and it kept all the rds on paper at 100yds ....the barrel I got on the fal seems tighter in DIA than my NIB DPMS ? Damn that fal barrel got hot fast and burn the hell out of my hand...
















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    And a big thanks to Deth and everyone for all the help !

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    no problem

    did it function well right from the get go, or did you have to adjust the gas nut any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deth502 View Post
    no problem

    did it function well right from the get go, or did you have to adjust the gas nut any?

    Yes it ran perfect with the South African circa 1984 next time I take it out I am going to try some 1993 RG and maybe a few rds of ppu .308....

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    Quote Originally Posted by abpt1 View Post
    And a big thanks to Deth and everyone for all the help !
    Don't cut that G!
    Grind the rails and weld a new set. You can do it!
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    Nice range report.
    Your FAL looks awesome.

    My test firing revealed shortcomings on the gas cycle.
    It won't eject the spent round. I suspect the 16" barrel is cutting down
    the dwell time for gas. If I remove the mag, it will cycle a single round, but
    just barely. Regulator is cut down to 0 bypass.
    Is it normal to have to enlarge the port on a shorty barrel?

    What do you think Schuetzenman, you've built more than I have.

    Everything is otherwise very tight, no gas leakage.
    Seems real accurate at 50 yds thus far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rahatlakhoom View Post
    Nice range report.
    Your FAL looks awesome.

    My test firing revealed shortcomings on the gas cycle.
    It won't eject the spent round. I suspect the 16" barrel is cutting down
    the dwell time for gas. If I remove the mag, it will cycle a single round, but
    just barely. Regulator is cut down to 0 bypass.
    Is it normal to have to enlarge the port on a shorty barrel?

    What do you think Schuetzenman, you've built more than I have.

    Everything is otherwise very tight, no gas leakage.
    Seems real accurate at 50 yds thus far.
    You are thinking correctly, you aren't getting enough gas pressure to cycle the weapon. I do assume you had the gas port fully closed right? Off the top of my head I found most FAL 20" weapons had to be opened up to make work. The couple of 16" guns I've done for folks we had to open them up even more than the 20" weapons. If my memory is correct on a 13" DSA shorty with the long hider silver soldered on it I had to go to .125" to get it to work. My advise is find a drill bit that fits the existing gas port hole under the front sight perfectly, then step up one drill size over that. In drilling the gas ports, put a cleaning rod or at least a wooden dowel in the bore to prevent you overshooting and contacting the rifling at the bottom of the bore under the port. Go slow, check frequently for penetration to the bore.

    Going again on memory, I believe I was opening up a 20" barrel gas port to about .115", 16" barrels to .118 to .120 and anything shorter to .125". Start with the least difference in size, in other words open up the gas port as little as possible and then verify function. If it still doesn't cycle well, try one more step up in size and again test fire to verify function. Good luck with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moebrown20 View Post
    Don't cut that G!
    Grind the rails and weld a new set. You can do it!


    i think it was a rail alignment issue from the get go, and all of the fixes tried werent enough to compensate. instead of trying to grind them out without ruining anything, it will be much easier to get a $12 flat and start over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moebrown20 View Post
    Don't cut that G!
    Grind the rails and weld a new set. You can do it!

    Its been grinded ,welded ,grinded ,bent, welded,Grinded....... Its going to become a underfolder.....





















    Quote Originally Posted by deth502 View Post


    i think it was a rail alignment issue from the get go, and all of the fixes tried werent enough to compensate. instead of trying to grind them out without ruining anything, it will be much easier to get a $12 flat and start over.
    The G the parts are already in my RPK and I am having issues with that chambering a live round but not a blank ?

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