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    I know a bit about them. They were british sniper rifles. They replaced their No4(t) sniper rifle of WW2 fame. They were basicly the upgraded version of the old No4(t). An SMLE action chambered in 7.62x51 as opposed to the old .303 round. They were more acurate. Also those scopes on these were a bit improved over the older ones if I am not mistaken They were reanged in meters as opposed the the yards in the earlier no4t's. By all acounts I have heard good rifles. I would love to pick one up. There were some imported a number of years ago but they were goobled up fast is my understanding. If you find one I would expect to pay a lot. Ask MJ1 I think he has a couple. I am sure he could tell you far more than I can. I wish some one would make a repo of that rifle or the older No4(t).
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    these are little known rifles and i was surprised to see them in the rifleman at all

    what would you like to know about them?



    i have a little information not much just what i found in a few books and at the range or from friends n the UK when i used to shoot there.



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    I finially found me a No4(T). I didn't think I would ever seen one but saw one for sale last week. I was $4000 though, which is more than I can really aford right now. So I had to pass sadly. It was still cool to see though I wish I could have gotten a better look at it.
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    A stand alone gun or with the full chest?

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    It had a chest. I don't know if it was orginal to it or not. I would guess so it looked like it but, I'm not an expert. The problem was it was behind a glass case so I couldn't get a great look at it. I thought that the price actually sounded pretty good but, this place tends to oover price everything in my opnion which makes me wonder what kind of shape the gun really is in and what it comes with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    I know a bit about them. They were british sniper rifles. They replaced their No4(t) sniper rifle of WW2 fame. They were basicly the upgraded version of the old No4(t). An SMLE action chambered in 7.62x51 as opposed to the old .303 round. They were more acurate. Also those scopes on these were a bit improved over the older ones if I am not mistaken They were reanged in meters as opposed the the yards in the earlier no4t's. By all acounts I have heard good rifles. I would love to pick one up. There were some imported a number of years ago but they were goobled up fast is my understanding. If you find one I would expect to pay a lot. Ask MJ1 I think he has a couple. I am sure he could tell you far more than I can. I wish some one would make a repo of that rifle or the older No4(t).

    It depends on when it was done and by who:

    WWII were selected from regular production and fitted scope mounts, bedding and all fitting was done by Holland and Holland (.303)
    Post WWI:
    Rebuilt and used through the Korean War, heavier barrels, stocks shortened and glass bedded. Made in Canada, UK and Australia through the mid 70's.

    7.62x51 were done with Canadian Long Branch and Savage receivers which had the forged 8620 receivers, those were capable of conversion to 7.62x51. The 7.62x51 had the problem of not having reliable feed from the mags. They were used in National Match and 1000 yard matches in Canada (iron sights).

    Read EGB Reynolds book on the #4.

    I just converted a '03A4 Springfield to .308 (with some work on an issue stock), shoots like a gem with a late Remington 2 grove barrel. It does prefer Sierra 175 Match Kings.
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    If you own what's in the picture, that's a very valuable rifle depending on condition and markings. I have a friend with a superb example. Worth up to 5K in proper condition etc.

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