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    **Team GunsNet Bronze 12/2012** skorpion's Avatar

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    SRM Arms 1216 shotgun - semi-auto bullpup

    I just found out about this interesting shotgun today. It looks similar to a Kel-Tec KSG, but it is a semi-auto with a removable magazine system that holds 16 rounds of 12 ga. The magazine is essentially 4 magazine tubes that hold 4 rounds each. After 4 rounds are fired, the magazine must be rotated 90 degrees. The bolt automatically closes and feeds a fresh round into the chamber after the magazine is rotated. When the entire magazine is empty, the user can simply drop it and replace it with a loaded one. It is currently in production, but it costs almost $3000. Unless I hit the lottery, I'll stock with Mossbergs and Remingtons.

    Introducing the SRM Arms Model 1216 semi-automatic twelve gauge shotgun, the “Next Generation of the Tactical Shotgun.”

    The 1216 design features include:

    Ergonomic compact design along with the flexibility of a detachable magazine provides unsurpassed firepower and tactical advantages.
    A detachable,high capacity magazine holding 16 rounds of either 2 3/4’or 3’shotshells
    Roller delayed action provides fast cycling and reduced felt recoil.
    Overall length is only 34 inches with a standard 18 inch barrel.
    An integrated picatinny rail combined with a three face handguard rail offers the shooter a broad range of options for mounting optics,sights and tactical accessories.
    Pushpin disassembly and break open design allows for easy field stripping and maintenance.
    Ambidextrous receiver and controls can be set up for either right or left handed shooters.

    This M1216 comes with the special order gel recoil pad,and one mag.Big discount (up to $400) for two or more,call for details.Extra Mags are available at $281.67 each.

    Price:$2,799.00
    http://www.srmarms.com/

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    It's fast, that's for sure.

    I'll bet an extra mag costs around $500.

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    You all need to watch the realted videos after this one ends. A guy going by Mars1952 has one and it is a POS, won't reliably feed, fire and can't hit shit at 75 yards with sights mounted on the Pic rail on top of the receiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuetzenman View Post
    You all need to watch the realted videos after this one ends. A guy going by Mars1952 has one and it is a POS, won't reliably feed, fire and can't hit shit at 75 yards with sights mounted on the Pic rail on top of the receiver.
    That is one expensive conversation piece/paperweight that guy has. It has to suck spending so much money on something and then realizing it doesn't even work. He could have bought a converted Saiga-12 and a shit-load of drums and ammo with that money and had some fun instead of a headache.

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    Hi skorpion, thanks for posting this thread about our 1216. My name is Jason and I'm with SRM.

    @Schuetzenman

    The primary issue he had with his gun stems from the roller-delayed action system design and the vacuum that is created in the chamber, when the shotgun is fired. What happened with his gun was a function of 2 factors.

    1) He was using ammunition that had been stored for a while, resulting in some expansion in the diameter of the shells;

    2) the force of the bolt being blown-back creates a vacuum within the chamber that either bulges the heads of the shells, or rips them apart.

    Let me explain the second part further...

    When the shell is seated in the chamber, depending on the diameter of the shell, it will either fit tightly or loosely. If the shell fits loosely in the chamber (which is more common) the gun will cycle more efficiently. If the shell fits tightly in the chamber, there is a greater likelihood that a vacuum-like effect will occur. Think of it like pulling a cork out of a wine bottle…the greater diameter of the shell, the greater the vacuum pressure in the chamber. When the vacuum pressure is high, the shell’s head can bulge or detach. Obviously, this has an impact on the guns ability to cycle.

    After reports of this problem, we developed a solution that would accommodate shotgun shells of slightly different diameter.

    Essentially, we etch grooves inside of the chamber of the shotgun so that the gasses can escape, thereby eliminating the vacuum-effect that occurred in some of the shotguns manufactured by SRM, early in its production.

    The fact that SRM has moved so quickly to understand a problem with the shotgun, develop a solution, and implement change to their manufacturing process should be viewed positively.

    Thanks and if you guys have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask!

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