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    e r shaw barrel for ar-15, where to get?

    i want a barrel for the build im working on, 24", ss, 1:8 or 1:9, havent decided yet, fluted and threaded heavy bull barrel.

    so far, the only plac ive seen that sells it is model one, and comparing some of thier other prices, it seems quite high at $380. midway has comperable models, like the same w/o threaded muzzle, for $275, i cant see the threads adding tht much.

    yes, i can thread it myself, but again, i want a fluted model, and std fluting goes close to the muzzle, so much so that cutting back the nessicary amt to thread, would make it look like shit, imo.

    so does anyone know of another outlet for these barrels? i tried searching the net, and all i found was reviews, no sales.

    tia.

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    call ER Shaw.



    Not being a dick BUT, give them a call. might actually be less and can be done more specifically to your needs.
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    IIRC Model 1 sales uses Shaw barrels.

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    1 in 8 will let you use Sierra Match King and other Match bullets of 80 grain weight. 1 in 9 will limit you to 69, maybe if you're lucky with the 24" barrel it will do the 75 gr. bullets. Have you tried Badger barrels, Kreiger barrels, Douglas barrels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen Keller View Post
    call ER Shaw.



    Not being a dick BUT, give them a call. might actually be less and can be done more specifically to your needs.
    i looked over their site, but from what i saw, it seemed that they only wanted to sell through authorized distributors.

    i suppose i could give it a shot though, wouldnt hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuetzenman View Post
    1 in 8 will let you use Sierra Match King and other Match bullets of 80 grain weight. 1 in 9 will limit you to 69, maybe if you're lucky with the 24" barrel it will do the 75 gr. bullets. Have you tried Badger barrels, Kreiger barrels, Douglas barrels?
    the whole twist rate thing is still just magic to me, for as much as i know. but i do want to stay in the 55-62, up to 69 gn range with the bullets. dont plan on going super heavy with them, but might bump up to the 69's for tehj super far distance shots, if the wind seems to be pushing the 62's too much.


    and i havent really tried anywhere else. im loking for a decent barrel, not top of the line high dollar, but not a barrel bottom pos either, and shaw was the first ones i found that fit all of my criteria.

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    why not just buy a blank?

    our would you be out more time/money in the end??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helen Keller View Post
    why not just buy a blank?

    our would you be out more time/money in the end??
    ive done it before, its possible, but ive got enough projects already, this was supposed to be the easy one.

    really, if i have to pay $400 for it, thats not a problem, but seeing as i can get the identical barrel either without the threading, or without the fluting for $250ish, i find it hard to believe that merely adding both would add $150 to the price.

    not you have me thinking, maybe buying the threaded one and fluting it would be the easiest route........

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    Quote Originally Posted by deth502 View Post
    the whole twist rate thing is still just magic to me, for as much as i know. but i do want to stay in the 55-62, up to 69 gn range with the bullets. dont plan on going super heavy with them, but might bump up to the 69's for tehj super far distance shots, if the wind seems to be pushing the 62's too much.


    and i havent really tried anywhere else. im loking for a decent barrel, not top of the line high dollar, but not a barrel bottom pos either, and shaw was the first ones i found that fit all of my criteria.
    Twist is easy to understand. Heavier bullets are longer. The longer it is the faster it has to be rotated to stabilize it so it doesn't keyhole going through the target. Rotation speed is also a component of how fast you can drive the bullet through the barrel, lighter bullets go faster, heavier bullets go slower. Therefore light bullets require less twist rate to stabilize, heavier bullets require more twist rate to stabilize .... to get their RPM's up to create the gyroscopic effect / Centripital force necessary to keep it stabile in flight.

    I've shot alot of 69 gr. wt. Sierras and 68 gr. Hornaday bullets out to 600 yards. Really they are most effective in bucking wind out to about 400 yards. Once you go beyond that if you want really best case accuracy you do need to shoot an 80 gr. Sierra. However those are so long the are not mag feedable as the overall length will be too much to fit in the magazine. You have to single load those. A skilled shooter can easily keep the 80 gr. bullets inside a 4 to 5" circle at 600 yards even in cross winds. Very tough to get close to that with 69 gr. bullets, more like 12" or more. 62's will be all over the place for a host of reasons, weight and quality of the bullet. M855 / SS109 projectiles are not match bullets and there really is a difference in performance between milspec and matchspec. bullets. If all you want to do is shoot Wolf / Barnual, etc. Russian ammo don't even bother going to a 24" barrel you are wasting your time and effort on the project. You can get the same results out of a 20" stock barrel.

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    M855 / SS109 projectiles are not match bullets and there really is a difference in performance between milspec and matchspec. bullets.
    ive noticed that. even with hand separating and individually weighing each bullet to group them, i still cant get m-80's to do shit in my 308, where just dumping out a box of a-max and throwing them in it will drive tacks.

    im not gonna lie, im prob gonna end up shooting a lot of wolf through it. most of the places i shoot i can only go to 100yd, and they should be fine to screw with, but the idea of the rifle is to have something that will go out the distance, and when i get a chance to shoot at farther ranges, then ill be using the handloaded stuff. but once i get the rifle done, i think the temptation to just take it out and shoot it will mean ill be using it alot where i cant use it to its potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deth502 View Post
    ive noticed that. even with hand separating and individually weighing each bullet to group them, i still cant get m-80's to do shit in my 308, where just dumping out a box of a-max and throwing them in it will drive tacks.

    im not gonna lie, im prob gonna end up shooting a lot of wolf through it. most of the places i shoot i can only go to 100yd, and they should be fine to screw with, but the idea of the rifle is to have something that will go out the distance, and when i get a chance to shoot at farther ranges, then ill be using the handloaded stuff. but once i get the rifle done, i think the temptation to just take it out and shoot it will mean ill be using it alot where i cant use it to its potential.
    One other thing, really good accuracy in a barrel isn't a forever thing. The more you shoot it the more the accuracy drops off. The first 1,000 rounds are better than the 2nd 1,000 rounds, the 3rd 1,000 rounds is less than the 2nd etc. If you really want a great shooting rifle that you can pop a cantelope with at 600 yards then shooting it frequently, especially with crap Russian ammo isn not a good thing. My best shooting AR has a stainless cryo treated Kreiger match 1 in 8 twist barrel on it. At 100 it can put 10 inside of .400" easily off a rest using 69 gr. Sierra MK's. The first 500 rounds that was more around .300" so it too is losing accuracy slowly. I have probably 1500 rounds through the bore. I don't shoot it often or much as I am trying to save that long range accuracy. I have my Blaster up close grade AR rifle, they get the heavy volume of fire as I really have no plans for them past 200 yards really.


    Posted about the rebuild on it before in this forum. Still haven't tried it with the barrel being threaded now to take the AAC can.
    Last edited by Schuetzenman; 09-28-2012 at 06:53 PM.

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