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    Locking Holster? (Argument from a Political Board)

    These is an argument on freerepublic.com about:

    they only had one gun and got the second one from the officer they killed at MIT

    There was NOT a second gun. The MIT officer's holster was rigged in such a way that the gun could not be removed.
    Anyone heard of a locking holster? I don't remember seeing such a thing. I know of no Cop that would agree to carry in such a thing...

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3012159/posts

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    There are any number of service holsters that have locking features, but they don't employ a key, just depressing a button or lever when drawing. Perhaps the poster is thinking of one of those as locking in the sense it has a combination or actual lock and key.

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    They are saying, because of a media report, that the brothers could not remove the dead MIT Police Officer's sidearm because of the holster it was in. Never heard of a locking device on a holster and never heard of anyone that would use such a thing.

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    Push button and the Friggin Muslims just didn't figure it out. Actually a good idea for cops, if they get jumped from the back, they simply can't get relieved of their weapon like a regular holster.

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    Yeah, local police use them around here.

    Basically, its just a holster designed in such a way that you have to lift the sidearm straight up and out which takes a little practice, otherwise it won't release.

    You can buy them here: http://www.safariland.com/dutygear/duty/als.aspx

    It's supposed to make it harder for assailants to grab and steal a sidearm from an angle. The only way to release it is to pull it straight up and out, which is only supposed to be easy if you're the one wearing it.
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    So, it isn't really a lock but just a lever release retaining system...

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Laton Caliente View Post
    So, it isn't really a lock but just a lever release retaining system...
    I was thinking it was a Sarfiland SSIII type holster (IIR the name right). It has three snapped down straps that can all be unsnapped during a "draw" with LOTS of practice. After all three snaps are unsnapped it must be canted forward to be removed. This holster makes it impossible to have the gun removed by someone that comes up behind, or to the side of, the officer. They have been credited with pistol retention in hundreds of incidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Yeah, local police use them around here.

    Basically, its just a holster designed in such a way that you have to lift the sidearm straight up and out which takes a little practice, otherwise it won't release.

    You can buy them here: http://www.safariland.com/dutygear/duty/als.aspx

    It's supposed to make it harder for assailants to grab and steal a sidearm from an angle. The only way to release it is to pull it straight up and out, which is only supposed to be easy if you're the one wearing it.
    That's the holster I use at work. You have to press down on the hood and push it forward, press the release button with your thumb, and draw the gun straight up. It also has a guard so the mechanism can't be manipulated from the front. With practice, it's still as fast as drawing from a Fobus.
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    So how many guns did they actually have? Did they have an M4 carbine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Simmons View Post
    So how many guns did they actually have? Did they have an M4 carbine?
    Latest report is that they only had a Ruger pistol. Nothing else. Except for pressure cookers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Laton Caliente View Post
    So, it isn't really a lock but just a lever release retaining system...
    That's what i was thinking, Blackhawk serpa or something similar... but it is massachusetts, so maybe they have a stupid law where cops have to padlock their guns in the holster

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    There was a prototype locking holster.
    I think it was made by Uncle Mike's.

    Instead of trying to squeeze a biometric trigger lock in a gun, they put the lock in the holster.
    To use, you gripped the gun and slid your trigger finger down into a pocket on the front of the holster.
    Inside the pocket was a biometric reader that read your fingerprint and unlocked the holster so the gun could be drawn.

    They abandoned the project when they couldn't solve the problems of bloody or dirty fingers or wearing gloves, or unreliable operation.
    Plus, no police officer or police union will tolerate such an unreliable device as any biometric locking device in a gun or holster that isn't 100% reliable, and nothing is 100% reliable.
    As Colt, Uncle Mike's and others attempting to invent a biometric lock for a gun or holster found out, reliability is critical and no matter what they tried, too often when the device was supposed to unlock it wouldn't and when it wasn't supposed to unlock it would.

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