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    Guns Network Contributor 04/2013 El Laton Caliente's Avatar

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    You need a picture ID to:

    adopt a pet
    purchase a home
    purchase an automobile
    purchase a gun
    obtain a bank account
    obtain a credit card
    obtain a passport
    write a check
    make a credit card purchase
    apply for a loan to purchase anything
    to prove your age
    to get married
    to receive a marriage license
    to drive
    to buy a house
    to close on a house
    to get medical care
    to get on a plane
    to get insurance on anything
    to get a job
    to get a post office box
    to get a hunting license
    to get a fishing license
    to get a business license
    to cash a paycheck
    rent an apartment
    rent a hotel room
    rent a car
    rent furniture
    rent tools and equipment
    receive welfare
    receive social security
    receive food stamps
    buy cigarettes
    buy alcohol
    buy a bus ticket
    buy a cell phone
    buy any antihistamine
    go in to a casino
    go in to a bar
    go to college
    have your water turned on
    have your electricity turned on
    have your cable turned on
    have your gas turned on
    obtain trash pick up service
    pick up a package from the post office
    pick up a package from fed ex
    pick up a package from ups
    pick up a prescription

    Things you do not need an ID for:

    Vote

    I haven't even known many illegal aliens that didn't have at least a fake ID...
    Last edited by El Laton Caliente; 04-13-2014 at 06:17 PM.
    We found out what "dealing" with progressive lefties is all about. Our side gives up something, they give up nothing and the progressives come back in a month or a year and want us to give up more... rinse and repeat...

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    Ok, since I live in the first state to require voter ID that made it all the way to the supreme court and was found to be ok, let me explain to those who can't understand how someone who does not drive can get a photo ID.

    First the cost, it is free, as in no charge as in gratis, as in what do you not understand about FREE OF CHARGE?

    Next, if you don't drive, there are FREE services that will pick you up and take you to the locations that will give you your FREE non-driving ID card. They will then take you home for FREE.

    Since you don't drive, there are also FREE services that will take you to your voting location and return you home, all FREE of charge.

    There is no excuse to not having a FREE voter or non-driver ID card as they are... let's see, FREE!

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    Just imagine how fast the Democrats will demand voter ID? When Blacks and Mexicans start voting Republican.

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    You're not suggesting that they're hypocrites, are you?

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    Maybe is a Hypocrite and Communist anything alike??

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    Hypocrites Communists and Facists share a lot of commonalities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Jefe View Post
    Thats what the queer, commie kenyon said.

    http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire...a2f84228ed93b3
    Quote Originally Posted by Pat Garrett View Post
    I guess 80 percent of Americans must be un-American by his definition.
    Does that "definition" surprise you? It shouldn't.

    After all, he wants to reclassify "political dissent" (complaining about him and his administrations) as "hate speech"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Laton Caliente View Post
    You need a picture ID to:

    adopt a pet
    Maybe from the pound, but certainly not from a private seller.

    purchase a home
    Only if you're taking out a loan...

    purchase an automobile
    Not from a private party.

    purchase a gun
    Again, not if you buy private party in most states.

    obtain a bank account
    obtain a credit card
    No, you don't. All you need to apply for a credit card is your SSN and verified address from your credit report.

    I've applied online and been approved for several credit cards over the past few years and never had to send or fax them shit.

    Discover (whom I already have a credit card through) just sent me a junk-mailer asking if I wanted to sign up for their free checking account service -- again, no ID required.

    obtain a passport
    Okay, you finally found one.

    write a check
    The only thing I write checks for these days is to pay for utilities. Check goes in the mail, no ID required.

    make a credit card purchase
    Maybe if you live in a high-crime area or are checking into a hotel or something, but I've never had to show ID for small in-store purchases. Most bigger ticket items I order online -- again, no ID required.

    apply for a loan to purchase anything
    Okay, perhaps...

    to prove your age
    And if you don't drink or smoke?

    to get married
    to receive a marriage license
    And if you're happily single and have no plans to get hitched?

    to drive
    Only on public roads.

    to buy a house
    to close on a house
    You already covered this.

    to get medical care
    Maybe for long-term care at a hospital or something where they need to track you down to pay for your bill, but most small clinics don't need to see shit so long as you pay before you leave, assuming insurance doesn't cover it all.

    to get on a plane
    Only commercial, not if charter a private plane.

    to get insurance on anything
    Nope. I signed up for Obamacare online, and all they did was verify some info off my credit report -- no ID required.

    Same with auto insurance -- did it all over the phone, never had to go down to their office to show them or give them shit.

    to get a job
    Okay, maybe you found another. But what about retirees drawing on Social Security?

    to get a post office box
    Through the USPS perhaps... I can't remember if I had to show ID when buying a private box through a commercial mailbox outfit. Maybe...

    to get a hunting license
    to get a fishing license
    to get a business license
    And if you don't hunt, don't fish, and don't plan to start a business?

    to cash a paycheck
    No, my local credit union only requires presentation of debit card to cash a check.

    And you can always just deposit it, then turn around and pull money out of the ATM.

    rent an apartment
    Many old folks own their own houses.

    rent a hotel room
    rent a car
    And if you don't travel and already have your own vehicle?

    rent furniture
    Who the hell does that any more?

    rent tools and equipment
    Most retirees are going to hire someone else to do that kind of work for them.

    receive welfare
    receive social security
    receive food stamps
    Okay, there's a few.

    buy cigarettes
    buy alcohol
    Only if you look like you're under 30. Most places don't card older folks.

    buy a bus ticket
    Are they doing that now? It's been awhile since I've ridden, but I wouldn't be surprised if they started that shit due to TSA bullshit from on high.

    buy a cell phone
    Nada. I bought my prepaid AT&T GoPhone online, they sent it in the mail. Never had to show up to show shit, just put money on it online or by credit card over the phone.

    buy any antihistamine
    You can thank the war on drugs for that bullshit.

    go in to a casino
    go in to a bar
    Again, only if you look like you're under 30.

    go to college
    I'm trying to recall if I did have to show ID when I enrolled... I know I was approved online. Perhaps when I got my school ID taken...

    have your water turned on
    have your electricity turned on
    have your cable turned on
    have your gas turned on
    obtain trash pick up service
    I've done all of those things without ever setting foot in an office. All they ever needed was SSN -- and a check in the mail.

    pick up a package from the post office
    pick up a package from fed ex
    pick up a package from ups
    Maybe in high-crime areas, but all those services just leave packages at the door-step, unless signature required. And even if signature required, no need to show ID.

    pick up a prescription
    Nope. I pick up pills for my parents all the time. All they need is phone number and knowing what prescriptions you have due.

    Things you do not need an ID for:

    Vote

    I haven't even known many illegal aliens that didn't have at least a fake ID...
    Then what good will Voter ID do if so many people have fake ID's and are supposedly voting multiple times?

    You might want to rethink this thing through...
    Last edited by LAGC; 04-15-2014 at 11:26 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAGC View Post
    Maybe from the pound, but certainly not from a private seller.



    Only if you're taking out a loan...



    Not from a private party.



    Again, not if you buy private party in most states.



    No, you don't. All you need to apply for a credit card is your SSN and verified address from your credit report.

    I've applied online and been approved for several credit cards over the past few years and never had to send or fax them shit.

    Discover (whom I already have a credit card through) just sent me a junk-mailer asking if I wanted to sign up for their free checking account service -- again, no ID required.



    Okay, you finally found one.



    The only thing I write checks for these days is to pay for utilities. Check goes in the mail, no ID required.



    Maybe if you live in a high-crime area or are checking into a hotel or something, but I've never had to show ID for small in-store purchases. Most bigger ticket items I order online -- again, no ID required.



    Okay, perhaps...



    And if you don't drink or smoke?



    And if you're happily single and have no plans to get hitched?



    Only on public roads.



    You already covered this.



    Maybe for long-term care at a hospital or something where they need to track you down to pay for your bill, but most small clinics don't need to see shit so long as you pay before you leave, assuming insurance doesn't cover it all.



    Only commercial, not if charter a private plane.



    Nope. I signed up for Obamacare online, and all they did was verify some info off my credit report -- no ID required.

    Same with auto insurance -- did it all over the phone, never had to go down to their office to show them or give them shit.



    Okay, maybe you found another. But what about retirees drawing on Social Security?



    Through the USPS perhaps... I can't remember if I had to show ID when buying a private box through a commercial mailbox outfit. Maybe...



    And if you don't hunt, don't fish, and don't plan to start a business?



    No, my local credit union only requires presentation of debit card to cash a check.

    And you can always just deposit it, then turn around and pull money out of the ATM.



    Many old folks own their own houses.



    And if you don't travel and already have your own vehicle?



    Who the hell does that any more?



    Most retirees are going to hire someone else to do that kind of work for them.



    Okay, there's a few.



    Only if you look like you're under 30. Most places don't card older folks.



    Are they doing that now? It's been awhile since I've ridden, but I wouldn't be surprised if they started that shit due to TSA bullshit from on high.



    Nada. I bought my prepaid AT&T GoPhone online, they sent it in the mail. Never had to show up to show shit, just put money on it online or by credit card over the phone.



    You can thank the war on drugs for that bullshit.



    Again, only if you look like you're under 30.



    I'm trying to recall if I did have to show ID when I enrolled... I know I was approved online. Perhaps when I got my school ID taken...



    I've done all of those things without ever setting foot in an office. All they ever needed was SSN -- and a check in the mail.



    Maybe in high-crime areas, but all those services just leave packages at the door-step, unless signature required. And even if signature required, no need to show ID.



    Nope. I pick up pills for my parents all the time. All they need is phone number and knowing what prescriptions you have due.



    Then what good will Voter ID do if so many people have fake ID's and are supposedly voting multiple times?

    You might want to rethink this thing through...
    Dude, get a life. Better yet see a doctor. Your not right in the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ready View Post
    I think thats bullshit. I worked in an extremely poor neighborhood and I only encountered 2 types of people that came back "no record found" when run for ID. Illegals and people who gave me a false name and DOB because they had warrants.

    Everyone else had ID because they need it for all their govt handouts.
    100% correct. So simple, so absolutely true. Require ID and all of a sudden its more difficult to commit vote fraud. Thats what this is all about. Election theft. It has nothing to do with disenfranchising a segment of the population.
    Face your fear, accept your war.

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