Majority Of US Babies Born Now Are Non-White

[mrkalashnikov]

Out with the old, in with the new:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/23/census-whites-now-make-up-minority-of-babies_n_883082.html

[Helen Keller]

huffington post..


:laugh:

[imanaknut]

Algore, fresh from defeat when people stood up to his global warming lies, was recorded the other day advocating birth control to keep the population down. In light of the current birth rate, does this make him a racist as well as an idiot????

[mrkalashnikov]

huffington post..


:laugh:

Who gives a shit what the source is, the stats are true.

Caucasions make up barely 15% of the world's population today. Almost 1/3 of planet Earth's people are Chinese, another 1/4 Indian.

Keep laughing.

[rahatlakhoom]

Yeah, guess who's coming to dinner?
Hispanics, Muslims, like rats in a grain elevator.

[Kadmos]

Holy crap!!!! It's amazing



















how much I don't care.

[bovver]

Whites only have themselves to blame.

[Helen Keller]

WOW

another Gunsnet "IF IT AIN'T WHITE, IT AIN'T RIGHT" thread.

[Mark Ducati]

You know what amazes me... is that living down here in North Georgia, "Prime Bible Belt" community of Southern Baptists...

We still have the KKK in our neck of the woods (Ellijay, GA).

There's a black man in town married to a caucasian female, small child too... they had a cinder block thrown into their front window this week with a note tied to it "Nigger get out of town or you are going to die!"... "KKK" written all along the border of the note.

Man, nobody deserves to live in fear... hopefully it was only kids being very stupid, but if this was a very real death threat... again, nobody should have to live with that kind of hatred against them. Sad, just sad... all this action did was bring MY community down 100 times!

[Mark Ducati]

BTW... being Gunsnet and all... when I first opened this thread, I was expecting to see a bunch of non-white "Babes"... hahaha.

[bovver]

I live in North Alabama and have never,NEVER seen the kkk here.
I have never seen anyone get beat up for being black or black women being raped by whites here.
No hate crimes against blacks to report in Alabama.
But non-white crimes against whites?
Yes we have plenty,lots of rapes etc.
So whites get to live in fear and if someone complains about it its not that they are a realist,they are a racist?
I dont get it.

I can tell you that I do see alot of mixed kids with mixed parents.
More in Alabama than in California.
Even get to see the white mom and white dad with the one mixed kid and I can only think "owned" when I look at the dad,is that racist?:laugh:

oh yeah,IBTL

[romak10/63UF]

Well i guess The people who first built America are only watching it fall now...

[raxar]

In order to fight this trend I'm going to start breeding right away......



Anyone have any idea how I go about doing that?

[Kadmos]

Anyone have any idea how I go about doing that?

When a boy and a girl really love each other, they get some beer and head for the backseat of a car...nine months later she gives birth...often the boy skips town.

[raxar]

When a boy and a girl really love each other, they get some beer and head for the backseat of a car...nine months later she gives birth...often the boy skips town.

awww man! My van doesn't have a backseat, will a sheet of 1/2" plywood work?

[AKTexas]

The first people in the new land now called America were not white. If only Columbus found his way to India.

[mriddick]

Even get to see the white mom and white dad with the one mixed kid and I can only think "owned" when I look at the dad,is that racist?:laugh:

oh yeah,IBTLI know of 2 couples (all involved are white) that adopted black children, it could just be they are caring parents who couldn't have their own children.

[yankeedog]

WOW

another Gunsnet "IF IT AIN'T WHITE, IT AIN'T RIGHT" thread.
And your arguement is.........?


There's a black man in town married to a caucasian female, small child too... they had a cinder block thrown into their front window this week with a note tied to it "Nigger get out of town or you are going to die!"... "KKK" written all along the border of the note.
Theres an action and a reaction for everything you do and I see that a cinder block was their reaction for thier brown baby action.
Around here "they " are dragged into town by raunchy white trash crack whores or big fat white welfare bitches and they do real well for themselves, always have to walk everywhere because they can't find a car to steal or have to smoke GNC brand cigarettes because their whores don't bring in enough cash to by marboros!

[Kadmos]

awww man! My van doesn't have a backseat, will a sheet of 1/2" plywood work?


Oh didn't know you had a van!

Yeah, whatever you can chain her to will work.

[tank_monkey]

Anyone who thinks this has been a racist thread needs their eyes examined. I saw no post that implied that Whites are in any way superior or better. But it is shocking since it shows a general decline of a MAJOR race in the world.

Now, unfortunately, we got inbred BUBBAS with fat beer guts, Stars & Bars flags, all talkin about the decline of the WHITE RACE. I have redneck relatives like that who are a total embarrassment I tend to tell them that when one speaks of the great contributions to civilization by members of the white race, no one was talking about idiots like them! :lool:

So yes, whites have no one to blame but themselves. They should heed the problems facing ALL of the nations whose majority race is in decline. (Japan, Denmark, Italy, Germany, etc.)

I love how the author states that the "white population" in Hawaii is less than 50%. When has it ever been OVER 50% in Hawaii? When I was there back in the 1970s, the majority was overwhelmingly Asians or Pacific Islanders. The White population in Hawaii is GROWING.

The only response is "Fellas, what have YOU DONE to contribute to getting more white girls pregnant?" ;)

[mriddick]

The only response is "Fellas, what have YOU DONE to contribute to getting more white girls pregnant?" ;)
My wife and have 4 sons, although only one might be "white" enough to attend a klan meeting and not be the considered the main attraction :)

[bovver]

I know of 2 couples (all involved are white) that adopted black children, it could just be they are caring parents who couldn't have their own children.

Not in this area of the country.
You would have to see the people to understand what I mean,no adoptions took place.
But I guess they would allow 18/19 year olds adopt in some states.

[mrkalashnikov]

Holy crap!!!! It's amazing



















how much I don't care.

You and a huge % of clueless Americans who don't realize what the long-term implications of this will bring.

This country, no matter how much of a kumbaya, marxist spin you want to put on it, was founded by, and prospered under, predominately white, Euro, Christian people and their idealogies. At least for the first 200 years or thereabouts. This scenario has drastically changed in just the short span of the last 20 years or so (some would say 10), where we've experienced unprecedented invasion by illegal immigrants from south of our borders, muslim Islamists, and a pathologically damaged black population where in many areas of the US (like my own) the illegitimate birth rate approaches 90%. Not to mention a flood of refugees from various 3rd World countries on the African continent, South America, and the ME. An immigration trend completely at odds with the historical source countries of Europe.

At some point in time there will be a "tipping point", where all the advances and standard of living brought about by Euro/American culture will be radically changed, into something that no longer resembles the USA of the last two centuries.

If you clowns on this site that like to cry "racist" & "KKK blah blah blah" don't get that... it's only because you're living in a fantasy world of the past. The world your kids and grand-kids will inherit will be a faint echo of the one you, your parents, and your grand-ancestors worked so dilligently to create. A country that was uniquely apart from all others before it, built on the ideals of Euro culture, with a healthy dose of Greek democracy woven into it. All courtesy of those terribly un-PC dead white guys we refer to as the Founding Fathers. The disease of Liberalism has done more to undermine the cultural bedrock of this country, over the last 50 years or so, than all the efforts of our foreign enemies since the founding.

[Ruskiegunlover]

I just loaned a steam cleaner to a good 5th generation mexican american. So, i am no racist. BUT, I completely agree with mrkalashnikovs point. Watch what europe is doing.....

[mriddick]

I just loaned a steam cleaner to a good 5th generation mexican american. So, i am no racist. BUT, I completely agree with mrkalashnikovs point. Watch what europe is doing.....
So that's what it takes not to be a racist in America.... I have always wondered why some people were and others weren't, I never knew it was all in to whom you loaned steam cleaners to.

This place is full of helpful information.

[mriddick]

You and a huge % of clueless Americans who don't realize what the long-term implications of this will bring.

This country, no matter how much of a kumbaya, marxist spin you want to put on it, was founded by, and prospered under, predominately white, Euro, Christian people and their idealogies. At least for the first 200 years or thereabouts. This scenario has drastically changed in just the short span of the last 20 years or so (some would say 10), where we've experienced unprecedented invasion by illegal immigrants from south of our borders, muslim Islamists, and a pathologically damaged black population where in many areas of the US (like my own) the illegitimate birth rate approaches 90%. Not to mention a flood of refugees from various 3rd World countries on the African continent, South America, and the ME. An immigration trend completely at odds with the historical source countries of Europe.

At some point in time there will be a "tipping point", where all the advances and standard of living brought about by Euro/American culture will be radically changed, into something that no longer resembles the USA of the last two centuries.

If you clowns on this site that like to cry "racist" & "KKK blah blah blah" don't get that... it's only because you're living in a fantasy world of the past. The world your kids and grand-kids will inherit will be a faint echo of the one you, your parents, and your grand-ancestors worked so dilligently to create. A country that was uniquely apart from all others before it, built on the ideals of Euro culture, with a healthy dose of Greek democracy woven into it. All courtesy of those terribly un-PC dead white guys we refer to as the Founding Fathers. The disease of Liberalism has done more to undermine the cultural bedrock of this country, over the last 50 years or so, than all the efforts of our foreign enemies since the founding.


I think America will be a place very far removed from what it was when I was growing up not because of red, tan, black, whatever people but because most today are socially liberal types who don't want to do things the old fashion way with the old fashion ideas. What it took our forefathers genertions to learn the hard way most today today gladly throw away for the ability to claim to be "in" with the new. Everytime you hear someone claim to be socially liberal but then decry the way things are going they are the one's fooling themselves and most likely more a part of the problem then someone alittle more tan then the founding fathers.

It's a mindset not a color that's destroying the core values of America.

[(AK)1000shots]

... I'm just waiting to see some disparaging comments regarding Asians...

[yankeedog]

... I'm just waiting to see some disparaging comments regarding Asians...

Japanese people speak plainer english than white USA citizens. Black people mumbo jumbo boot lip the english vocabulary so bad its funny to listen to!

[Kadmos]

it's only because you're living in a fantasy world of the past.

Um, you're the one talking about the founders and the "first 200 years".

Life changes, we also used to have dinosaurs here, eventually mammoths, then native Americans (who are still a bit pissed over the more recent changes), then a bunch of Spaniards, then the Dutch, then English, then Irish, Germans, etc, and a whole slew of blacks who were dragged here against their will


we've experienced unprecedented invasion by illegal immigrants

I hate to break it to you, but those people were likely here before "whites", which kinda really makes the whites the "unprecedented invasion"

Things are going to change, that's a natural part of life...sorry if it upsets you, lots of changes in my life have upset me, and it sucks.

But those were changes of a more personal nature, not about a statistic of how many babies of what shade are born in an area of roughly 4 million square miles

Other than "interesting fact", I see no point in actually caring

[O.S.O.K.]

Lets round up all of the illegals (Mexican nationals) and flush them out of the country and see what the numbers look like.

That's what needs to be done badly - not for any racist reasons but for economic and judicial reasons.

If you don't enforce the law or enforce only this law and not that law, then the law becomes meaningless and the rule of law becomes the rule of force.

We need to choose which path to take and soon.

[(AK)1000shots]

Japanese people speak plainer english than white USA citizens. Black people mumbo jumbo boot lip the english vocabulary so bad its funny to listen to!

I was just saying that, because Asians kids in America (legal citizens) are the only group outperforming White kids in scholastic achievement. The term "minority" kind of irks me, because not all minorities in America fall at the same level. In terms of scholastic performance, the trend is Asians>Whites>Blacks>Hispanics.

[Solidus-snake]

Look at Mexico... alright now look at Africa...Also look at Chicago ghettos... now we see a trend of white babies becoming the minority. Alrighty now look at who the new majorities parents are if they have moved here from one of the aforementioned places.. uh huh and look at the values taught to them...

Make any more sense? And dont shit yourself, the people popping out the most babies are mostly trailer park/ government housing project hoods so just take a guess at the types of morals being taught there and what "upstanding citizens" they will become. And oh yeah, theres plenty of white trailer park whores squeezing out baby after baby but looks like they are getting outnumbered.

[yankeedog]

I was just saying that, because Asians kids in America (legal citizens) are the only group outperforming White kids in scholastic achievement. The term "minority" kind of irks me, because not all minorities in America fall at the same level. In terms of scholastic performance, the trend is Asians>Whites>Blacks>Hispanics.
Yes I understand.
Asians don't yell racist at us but instead beat the hell out of our kids in the brains catogory and that speaks volumes above the thug life beings!!!

[Krupski]

You know what amazes me... is that living down here in North Georgia, "Prime Bible Belt" community of Southern Baptists...

We still have the KKK in our neck of the woods (Ellijay, GA).

There's a black man in town married to a caucasian female, small child too... they had a cinder block thrown into their front window this week with a note tied to it "Nigger get out of town or you are going to die!"... "KKK" written all along the border of the note.

Man, nobody deserves to live in fear... hopefully it was only kids being very stupid, but if this was a very real death threat... again, nobody should have to live with that kind of hatred against them. Sad, just sad... all this action did was bring MY community down 100 times!

Hopefully, that's all it was. But the kids get their ideas from their parents.

I used to be a rabid anti-black racist... because that's what I learned from my dad. It wasn't until (much) later that I learned how wrong I was.

[Krupski]

When a boy and a girl really love each other, they get some beer and head for the backseat of a car...nine months later she gives birth...often the boy skips town....which is precisely the problem with today's kids. No father to provide male guidance, no father to kick the boy's ass when he disrespects his mother, no father to teach the boy right and wrong.

Then, because the mother-only family barely makes ends meet, the boy probably won't go to college (probably won't even finish HS). He can't get a job and, anyway, why bother with a job when selling drugs is much more profitable.

Then, drug boy knocks up some girl, takes off and the cycle repeats.

Shouldn't be that way.

[Kadmos]

Shouldn't be that way.

Preaching to the choir my friend.

Of course a lot of single parent kids do just fine, but having both (who are actually decent people)is a huge step up. Add in grandparents, cousins and the like and it's that much better.

The loss of the "traditional" family, or even a reasonable substitute thereof is one of the greatest tragedies of this countries.

[alismith]

Japanese people speak plainer english than white USA citizens. Black people mumbo jumbo boot lip the english vocabulary so bad its funny to listen to!

It's called Ebonics. Ebonics is an attempt to justify, and legitimize, the inability to learn, and speak, correct English.

[mrkalashnikov]

Life changes, we also used to have dinosaurs here, eventually mammoths, then native Americans (who are still a bit pissed over the more recent changes), then a bunch of Spaniards, then the Dutch, then English, then Irish, Germans, etc, and a whole slew of blacks who were dragged here against their will



I hate to break it to you, but those people were likely here before "whites", which kinda really makes the whites the "unprecedented invasion"

Things are going to change, that's a natural part of life...sorry if it upsets you, lots of changes in my life have upset me, and it sucks.

But those were changes of a more personal nature, not about a statistic of how many babies of what shade are born in an area of roughly 4 million square miles

Other than "interesting fact", I see no point in actually caring

Thanks for not failing to tout the apologist/socialist line as, as always.

Those "people were here before whites"? Are you truly that brainwashed and clueless?

Who exactly are you referring to?

The countless mestizo illegals...estimated by real accounts to be over 20 million now? They are basically a Spanish/Aztec blend of folks. There is ZERO precedent for them in North America, with the exception of the southwest portion of the US.

How about the Arabs? Or were they, in your Bizzarro world, here before the Euros too? That's right, it was Arabs and various muslims who had settled this land before the English, Scots, Germans, French, and Italians ever showed up. I believe they also put the first spacecraft on the Moon, as well as constructing the Empire State Building.

American blacks? Sorry again proffessor. Though it's true many Africans were brought here forcibly via the slave trade in the early years after Columbus's discovery (an Italian guy bankrolled by the Spanish monarchy), they don't qualify as being the founders or central cultural force in creating America.

That leaves Native Americans, the first people to inhabit the New World. They were a very small in number collection, relatively speaking, of various tribes who for the most part had no alphabet or written form of communication, never got around to inventing the wheel, real architecture, science, astronomy, medicine, mathematics, or those items we like to discuss here so much, firearms.

Keep telling yourself it's all cool, my man.

You and your children and grandchildren will no doubt prosper in a new, enlightened, non-Eurocentric America. Perhaps one where Sharia Law will replace the BoR and the Constitution. Or the utopian paradises created after white Euro settlers became displaced in countries like Rhodesia, Kenya, and South Africa will become the new model for the US. You'll keep telling yourself that change...why... it's the "natural order of things" and if anyone dares to raise concerns about it well, then dammit you're not a Progressive Forward-Thinking New Age Child of the Enlightenment. You're a racist. A reactionary. A dinosaur fossil that has failed to "adapt" to the new order we find ourselves living under. Don't worry a bit....all is going to be swell. It's just change.

[Kadmos]

Thanks for not failing to tout the apologist/socialist line as, as always.

No. I'm saying things change. They aren't speaking so much Latin in Rome anymore.


Those "people were here before whites"? Are you truly that brainwashed and clueless?

Who exactly are you referring to?

The countless mestizo illegals...estimated by real accounts to be over 20 million now? They are basically a Spanish/Aztec blend of folks. There is ZERO precedent for them in North America, with the exception of the southwest portion of the US.

Aztec...people who were here before whites.

We can quibble over what exact area, but this was thier land at one time. That has changed.

I'm not saying they have more "right" to it. I'm simply saying it's changed.



How about the Arabs? Or were they, in your Bizzarro world, here before the Euros too? That's right, it was Arabs and various muslims who had settled this land before the English, Scots, Germans, French, and Italians ever showed up. I believe they also put the first spacecraft on the Moon, as well as constructing the Empire State Building.


Um...what?


American blacks? Sorry again proffessor. Though it's true many Africans were brought here forcibly via the slave trade in the early years after Columbus's discovery (an Italian guy bankrolled by the Spanish monarchy), they don't qualify as being the founders or central cultural force in creating America.

Since they did alot of the work, helped create alot of the wealth that made America a great nation perhaps they deserve a bit of credit as founders an if not the central cultural force at least a large part of it.

BTW you seem to be implying that "real Americans" weren't involved in the slave trade. They most certainly were. Nearly 30% of the slaves brought here were brought in the 19th century, roughly half were brought in the 18th century.


That leaves Native Americans, the first people to inhabit the New World. They were a very small in number collection, relatively speaking, of various tribes who for the most part had no alphabet or written form of communication, never got around to inventing the wheel, real architecture, science, astronomy, medicine, mathematics, or those items we like to discuss here so much, firearms.

Ok, so what? They were here, now not so much...like I said, change happens


Keep telling yourself it's all cool, my man.

Ok, I will, thanks.



You and your children and grandchildren will no doubt prosper in a new, enlightened, non-Eurocentric America.

Hopefully they will...if that happens. Either way so long as they can accept that life will change they have a good shot at doing ok.


Perhaps one where Sharia Law will replace the BoR and the Constitution.

I truly hope not, that would certianly be bad. It would have little to do with skin tone of children I imagine.



You'll keep telling yourself that change...why... it's the "natural order of things" and if anyone dares to raise concerns about it well, then dammit you're not a Progressive Forward-Thinking New Age Child of the Enlightenment.

If it makes you feel better, feel free to worry and raise concerns. I'm not going to be concerned over what color other peoples kids are.



You're a racist.

Eh? Only if the shoe fits.

But I called no one anything of the sort.


A reactionary. A dinosaur fossil that has failed to "adapt" to the new order we find ourselves living under. Don't worry a bit....all is going to be swell. It's just change.

As I said, change can hurt. To me it has to be something a bit more personal than what color other peoples kids are. I might as well wail against whatever clothing color is "the new black", or bemoan other people's style of footwear.

[Nashorn]

[QUOTE=raxar;144055]In order to fight this trend I'm going to start breeding right away......



Anyone have any idea how I go about doing that?[/QUOT

Go over into Lancaster county and Berks county and violate all the Amish women you can find homeboy.

[Nashorn]

It's called Ebonics. Ebonics is an attempt to justify, and legitimize, the inability to learn, and speak, correct English.

Around here we just call it JIVE. The white race is in decline around here is because some crackhead who likes to play the racecard and collect welfare screws 7 or 8 white trash sluts and has his babies mamas support his lazy, worthless ass. When I say support him I mean give up their foodstamps, WICC and welfare checks to him and have more babbies to increase the flow of income. Sad but true.

[tank_monkey]

Around here we just call it JIVE. The white race is in decline around here is because some crackhead who likes to play the racecard and collect welfare screws 7 or 8 white trash sluts and has his babies mamas support his lazy, worthless ass. When I say support him I mean give up their foodstamps, WICC and welfare checks to him and have more babbies to increase the flow of income. Sad but true.

Your point only makes sense if the black or mulatto population was growing. It is not. So having one black vagabond impregnate more than one white trash ho (you assume the black man impregnates tons of white women, which is actually not true. That phenomenon of many pregnancies by one man is big within the black community itself but rarely crosses over racial lines). The Black American population has been pretty much locked at 12-12.8% since the 1970s. It's still about 12-13% of the total population TODAY. The only growth group is LATINOS, who have already passed the blacks as the largest ethnic minority in the U.S. by a fraction of a percentage point. Blacks have been a part of America since before its founding, but it took the Mexicans mere decades to outbreed them :wow:

[LAGC]

The only growth group is LATINOS, who have already passed the blacks as the largest ethnic minority in the U.S. by a fraction of a percentage point. Blacks have been a part of America since before its founding, but it took the Mexicans mere decades to outbreed them :wow:

It doesn't have so much to do with race as it does religion. Traditional Catholics (just like Mormons) just LOVE to "spread their seed far and wide" and have as many off-spring as they possibly can. After all, the more souls they can bring into this world, the more they can "bring to Christ." As more and more folks of direct European ancestry become less and less religious, this urge to have many babies and eschew abortion, declines. Which is why you see such low birth rates in Europe, while really high amongst the immigrant Muslim population there, and the immigrant (Catholic) Hispanic population here in the U.S.

The religious folks figure if they can just keep fucking their way into greater numbers, they'll be able to turn the tide of growing secularism in the world. The problem is, quite a few of their precious little off-spring grow up to lose their religion in the end anyway. So they're fighting a losing battle, yet still succeeding in over-populating the Earth, making it less pleasant for all of us, who will have to deal with food shortages here in a few decades (or sooner).

[deth502]

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/256710/not-my-waterpark

[mrkalashnikov]

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/256710/not-my-waterpark

Lol, you just know that Cartman is peeing in the pool all that time.

A funny little cartoon, though not necessarily the way the Southpark boyz intended.

[tank_monkey]

It doesn't have so much to do with race as it does religion.

I didn't say that them being Catholics had nothing to do with it. It does. Being Catholic has made the population of the poor in the PHILIPPINES explode. But Mexico's very chauvanistic society is also prolific and sex crazed (based on some pretty sexist stuff I hear quoted by major leaders, politicians, celebs in MEXICO) I remember the Mexican president who served BEFORE Vicente Fox was asked by his countrymen had so many children when their economy at the time could not support it, he just quipped "We (us mexican men) don't so much love our children, but we love our WOMEN!" (paraphrasing here of course). The irony is that Mexico is a large country with oil and lots of land and natural resources but the country, it's bureaucracy is so inefficient that they will never be able to fully take advantage of that. I can NEVER see Mexico as being a 1st world nation (U.S., Britain, Japan, Germany, etc.) with a well educated population, lots of modern cities and a police force that doesn't shake you down as a matter of course. It's a culture of corruption, like all those banana republics farther south or nearly ALL of the nations in Africa. THAT'S fully the culture of the race, not the religion.

[Krupski]

Oh didn't know you had a van!

Yeah, whatever you can chain her to will work.

We better tell Kadmos that his account has been hijacked by someone with a sense of humor!

[Krupski]

The only response is "Fellas, what have YOU DONE to contribute to getting more white girls pregnant?" ;)

I have two sons and one daughter. I done my part! :)

[Krupski]

Lets round up all of the illegals (Mexican nationals) and flush them out of the country and see what the numbers look like.

That's what needs to be done badly - not for any racist reasons but for economic and judicial reasons.

If you don't enforce the law or enforce only this law and not that law, then the law becomes meaningless and the rule of law becomes the rule of force.

We need to choose which path to take and soon.

Nothing racist about it. Either the US law applies or not.

[Kadmos]

We better tell Kadmos that his account has been hijacked by someone with a sense of humor!

Ahh...to know me, is to....be slightly annoyed by me

lol

[Krupski]

It doesn't have so much to do with race as it does religion. Traditional Catholics (just like Mormons) just LOVE to "spread their seed far and wide" and have as many off-spring as they possibly can. After all, the more souls they can bring into this world, the more they can "bring to Christ."

That's complete bullshit. I always wanted kids... I figured two would be a good number. First two were boys so I made one last attempt for a daughter - success! It had nothing to do with "religion" or "Christ".

[Kadmos]

That's complete bullshit. I always wanted kids... I figured two would be a good number. First two were boys so I made one last attempt for a daughter - success! It had nothing to do with "religion" or "Christ".

I agree he's got the reasoning only part right at best, for Catholics it's the birth control issue.

Which I suppose could be somewhat interpreted as "having more for the church", but I don't think that is directly the reason.

The real fact is that sex is a great way to pass the time, plus it's free (usually... and only sort of if you think about it). Poorer people are less likely to be consistent about using birth control

[Full Otto]

That's complete bullshit.

I wouldn't say complete bullshit

http://biblelight.net/wound.htm
Lateran Concordat of 1929
On February 11th, 1929, an historic treaty was signed between the Italian Government and the Vatican re-establishing the political power and diplomatic standing of the Catholic Church

ROME--Pope John Paul II made a historic speech to Italy's parliament Thursday, urging Italians to work for world peace, uphold their Christian values and have more babies

Of course the article is more toward the prophecy stuff, not everyone's cup-o- tea but the influence of the church could become more than most want in governing the country when we see the numbers starting to tilt in certain directions.