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.40
07-19-2011, 04:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klqv9t1zVww

5.56NATO
07-19-2011, 07:03 PM
http://www.iahf.com/usa/fema.html

Warthogg
07-19-2011, 07:28 PM
http://www.iahf.com/usa/fema.html



Some people have referred to it as the "secret government" of the United
>States.
It is not an elected body, it does not involve itself in public disclosures, and it even has a quasi-secret budget in the hundreds of billions of dollars.

This government organization has more power than the President of the United States or the Congress, more power than "the people", it has the power to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain citizens without a warrant and hold them without trial, it can seize property, food supplies, transportation systems, and can suspend the Constitution.

Not only is it the most powerful entity in the United States, but it was not even created under Constitutional law by the Congress.

It was a product of a Presidential Executive Order.

It is not the U.S. military nor the Central Intelligence Agency. These organizations are subject to the control of Congress.





Little something for you Ray Gun fans as well as those who believe rethuglicans are the answer.


The organization is called FEMA, which stands for the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Originally conceived in the Richard Nixon Administration, it was refined by Jimmy Carter and given teeth in the Ronald Reagan and George Bush Administrations.




Wart

5.56NATO
07-20-2011, 08:26 AM
And the best part:
"The scenarios established to trigger FEMA into action are generally found in the society of today; economic collapse, civil unrest, drug problems, terrorist attacks, distrust of the government by a majority of the people, protests against American intervention in a foreign country. With all of these premises existing, it could only be a matter of time until one of these triggers the entire emergency necessary to bring FEMA into action, and then it may be too late, because under the FEMA plan, there is no contingency by which Constitutional power is restored."

alismith
07-20-2011, 04:53 PM
And the best part:
"The scenarios established to trigger FEMA into action are generally found in the society of today; economic collapse, civil unrest, drug problems, terrorist attacks, distrust of the government by a majority of the people, protests against American intervention in a foreign country. With all of these premises existing, it could only be a matter of time until one of these triggers the entire emergency necessary to bring FEMA into action, and then it may be too late, because under the FEMA plan, there is no contingency by which Constitutional power is restored."

Based on what has been written above, if a state of emergency were declared, the Constitution is suspended, as are federal laws. Which means, it would no longer be illegal to possess a full auto firearm. Actually, it would be no worse than possessing any type of firearm. Right?

Altarboy
07-20-2011, 05:06 PM
Scary stuff. Time will tell.

5.56NATO
07-20-2011, 06:25 PM
Based on what has been written above, if a state of emergency were declared, the Constitution is suspended, as are federal laws. Which means, it would no longer be illegal to possess a full auto firearm. Actually, it would be no worse than possessing any type of firearm. Right?

I imagine it would be along the lines of Katrina, where they went door to door and confiscated arms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

Warthogg
07-20-2011, 10:57 PM
I imagine it would be along the lines of Katrina, where they went door to door and confiscated arms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

And will be barely, if any at all, a mention in any media....left stream or Fox.


Wart

Warthogg
07-20-2011, 11:00 PM
There was a SEAL team operating in downtown New Orleans during the Katrina aftermath.. I saw ONE accidental mention in the media.


Wart

Warthogg
07-20-2011, 11:05 PM
My response is in CAPS and BOLD below:


And the best part:

With all of these premises existing, it could WILL only be a matter of time until one of these triggers the entire emergency necessary to bring FEMA into action, and then it may WILL be too late, because under the FEMA plan, there is no contingency by which Constitutional power is restored."


Wart

1 Patriot-of-many
07-21-2011, 02:16 AM
Sorry but I don't recognize any suspension of the Constitution.... Anyone care to tell me where that power is in the Constitution?

5.56NATO
07-21-2011, 11:58 AM
They won't say where their power comes from because few Americans have any clue what an EO is, and as everyone knows the fedz are above the law and when "national security" is at stake, the fedz can do no wrong so we must do what the fedz tell us.

They may have pulled this off in Katrina, but across America? They better get some blue helmets in here in a hurry because there's gonna be a ruckus. Not too many rednecks are gonna cotton to search and seizure and all else that is part and parcel to martial law.

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"
- The Gulag Archipelago, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Keep the above in mind. This isn't Germany, Russia, China, we have a historical tradition of fighting for freedom. May it always be so.

Warthogg
07-21-2011, 12:45 PM
They won't say where their power comes from because few Americans have any clue what an EO is, and as everyone knows the fedz are above the law and when "national security" is at stake, the fedz can do no wrong so we must do what the fedz tell us.

They may have pulled this off in Katrina, but across America? They better get some blue helmets in here in a hurry because there's gonna be a ruckus. Not too many rednecks are gonna cotton to search and seizure and all else that is part and parcel to martial law.

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"
- The Gulag Archipelago, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Keep the above in mind. This isn't Germany, Russia, China, we have a historical tradition of fighting for freedom. May it always be so.


"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!"
- The Gulag Archipelago, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn


And many sabra (native born Israeli....in this case meant to encompass women as well as men) have asked that same question about Germany's Jews.


Wart

davepool
07-21-2011, 02:46 PM
"They may have pulled this off in Katrina, but across America? They better get some blue helmets in here in a hurry because there's gonna be a ruckus. Not too many rednecks are gonna cotton to search and seizure and all else that is part and parcel to martial law."


http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/2-bush-moves-toward-martial-law/

They may have the blue helmet thing covered already. I think Bush even signed an agreement with Canada and Mexico to allow their troops help out in an "emergency"

5.56NATO
07-21-2011, 03:44 PM
I remember that being in the news. Many wondered what it was needed for at the time. Now we know.