9mm NATO Standards Qs and perhaps other 9mm Qs too

[American Rage]

What is the standard weight of the bullet and standard velocity for 9mm NATO cartridges?

Anybody know a good, cheap substitute?

How about Winchester White Box 115 grain fmj? Anywhere close to NATO specs?

Thanks

Rage

[NewbieAKguy]

I think this is the stuff: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php/pName/50rds-9mm-winchester-nato-milspec-124gr-fmj-ammo/cName/9mm-fmj-ammo

But, I have some of this: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php/pName/50rds-9mm-winchester-ranger-nato-124gr-fmj-ammo/cName/9mm-fmj-ammo, which says it's the same thing, but it's a buck cheaper per box. Ammunitiontogo.com also has the regular 115 gr WB for two bucks less per box. No idea on the velocity of NATO tho. I'll try to look when I get home from work this morning.

Well, just checked ammoman.com and they have the Ranger in stock too. According to them the velocity is 1185 fps.

[Gunreference1]

http://www.olive-drab.com/images/ammo_9mm_m882_ball_drwg_400.jpg

The M882 ball cartridge consists of a brass case, a copper alloy jacketed lead core bullet, a two-piece boxer-type primer, and a double-base propellant. M882 NATO ammunition manufactured under U.S. Government contracts by Winchester-Western (Olin Corp.) and Federal has a 112 grain FMJ bullet and provides 385 meters/sec. (1263 fps) muzzle velocity as determined by official military test standards measured at 15 feet from the muzzle. The cartridge weighs 179 gr. in total and is 1.165 inches (29.591 mm) in length. M882 NATO 9mm ammunition carries a headstamp with the maker and year of production--example: WCC 88 stamped on a lot made in 1988 by Western Cartridge Company (Olin's Winchester-Western ammunition division) or FC 86, a 1986 lot by Federal Cartridge. The ammunition also carries the NATO stamp of a circle around a plus sign. M882 has been made with and without a cannelure (groove) around the midsection of the brass case.

Reference - http://www.olive-drab.com/od_firearms_ammo_9mm.php

Winchester loads their 9mm ammunition with a 115 gr. bullet that leaves the muzzle at 1190 fps. 9mm NATO ammunition has a muzzle velocity of 1263 fps. But remember NATO ammunition has a chamber pressure of 36,550 psi. SAAMI lists 35,000 psi for non +P loads and 38,500 psi as a limit for +P loads. Hope this helps!

Steve

[NewbieAKguy]

Next time, I'll just keep my mouth errrr, fingers uh whatever, to myself:biggrin:

[American Rage]

thanks for the info


Rage