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mriddick
08-10-2010, 07:59 AM
Let me get this straight, the guy is caught lying, stealing and fudging expense reports to the tune of millions and his punishment is 28+ million?


Another corporate scandal, another CEO ousted and another eye-popping, multimillion-dollar severance package.

News that former Hewlett-Packard Chairman and Chief Executive Mark Hurd will get severance payments worth an estimated $28 million despite being ousted in a scandal revives a question asked after nearly every outbreak of corporate misfeasance: Why?

A rank-and-file employee let go for fudging expense accounts or otherwise violating company policy likely would be given time to clean out the desk and little more. But senior executives like Hurd play by a different set of rules, often hammered out years earlier by expensive lawyers.

“Exit packages are often negotiated on an executive's entry into the organization, at a time when he or she is still very much in a position of power as the leading candidate for the job,” said Richard Coughlan, associate professor of management at the University of Richmond's Robins School of Business.

“At that time, the compensation committee of the board of directors is probably thinking that there is little or no chance of things going south, so it might be willing to be more generous in that section of the contract," he said. “Unless the contract has been worded very carefully, the company is forced to honor the package that had been agreed to up front.”

Hurd resigned unexpectedly Friday after a company investigation of a sexual harassment claim found that he filed inaccurate expense reports to cover up what was described as a "close personal relationship" with a company contractor. Over the weekend he settled the harassment charges brought by the contractor, actress Jodie Fisher, who helped the company with marketing events from 2007 to 2009.

HP's general counsel said Hurd's actions showed a "profound lack of judgment." Yet Hurd will get a $12.2 million severance payment plus nearly 350,000 shares of HP stock worth about $16 million at Friday's closing price, according to a company filing. The company also extended the deadline for exercising options to buy up to 775,000 HP shares.

Richard Simmons
08-10-2010, 08:15 AM
Sounds like a union employee. I knew a guy growing up that was busted at the B&N gas pumps during the night shift. His wife had her car and one pump and he had his pickup at the other. They fired him and connected him to dozens of other incidents involving hundered of gallons of gas.

Thanks to the union B&N had to hire him back with back pay even though he was gulity of grand larceny.


Letting dirtbags get away with theft and wrong doing isn't limited to high dollar corporate bigwigs. It permeates our society at all levels.

Lysander
08-10-2010, 08:17 AM
Something like 90% of all cases involving misappropriation of funds or embezzlement go without prosecution.

Richard Simmons
08-10-2010, 08:26 AM
I didn't see where it states that there were millions of dollars in expense account errors. Also doesn't indicate if he's paying back any of those "errors".

Krupski
08-10-2010, 08:46 AM
Sounds like a union employee.

No, it sounds like corporate management. A union employee would get charged, file a grievance, end up at an arbitration hearing and either lost his job, be fined and returned to his job, or simply returned to his job with the punishment being "time served" (as in the time between his suspension and return to work).

He would most certainly not get $28 million. Not even $1 million. Not even $1.00

Richard Simmons
08-10-2010, 09:10 AM
No, it sounds like corporate management. A union employee would get charged, file a grievance, end up at an arbitration hearing and either lost his job, be fined and returned to his job, or simply returned to his job with the punishment being "time served" (as in the time between his suspension and return to work).

He would most certainly not get $28 million. Not even $1 million. Not even $1.00

Give Obama time and they might.

mriddick
08-10-2010, 09:49 AM
I didn't see where it states that there were millions of dollars in expense account errors. Also doesn't indicate if he's paying back any of those "errors".
The amount has not been released but speculation has it at well over 6 figures. So how about this I'll give in on the millions part, if you give on the errors part. Lets face it this wasn't a paperwork error it was stealing money to buy love on the company dime :)

As to union or management both have their share of theives and lowlifes. I blame the boards who set up such contracts.

Richard Simmons
08-10-2010, 10:18 AM
Not a problem. I didn't mean to insinuate that the "errors" were true mistakes or unintentional by any means. I'm sure he was "padding" his expense account.

The other issue I see was in hiring the gal in the first place. From what I've seen reported she did some acting (soft porn) and approached HP about getting a job "in marketing" though I've seen nothing that indicates she had any corporate experience in that or any other area. Made it look like she was basically hired as a hostess and it's likely she postioned herself (pun intended) to make a few bucks off her employer.