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Gunreference1
08-10-2010, 08:59 AM
San Francisco MTA Bans Movie Ads Containing Guns

Opinion by The Volokh Conspiracy
(9 Hours Ago) in Society / Guns
By Eugene Volokh

SF Weekly blogs reports that the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency doesn’t allow movie ads with guns in them:

While the official poster for [The Other Guys] features a maniacal Ferrell and the menacing Wahlberg sailing through the air, guns drawn, the version on Muni vehicles and in stations features Ferrell brandishing a vial of pepper spray and Wahlberg relying upon his bare fists. This is not a coincidence.

“Well, the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency does have an advertising policy that states ads should not appear to promote the use of firearms or advocate any violent action,” explains spokesman Paul Rose.

Sure enough, the policy says,

Advertising on Municipal Transportation Agency (“MTA”) property, or as authorized under any contract with the MTA, constitutes a nonpublic forum. No such advertisement shall:
-- be false, misleading or deceptive;
-- concern a declared political candidate or ballot measure scheduled for consideration by the voters in an upcoming election, or an initiative petition submitted to the San Francisco Department of Elections;
-- appear to promote the use of firearms;
-- be clearly defamatory;
-- be obscene or pornographic;
-- advocate imminent lawlessness or violent action;
-- promote alcoholic beverages or tobacco products;
-- infringe on any copyright, trade or service mark, title or slogan

The policy is unconstitutional, at least as applied to movie ads, because it’s viewpoint-based. The government has broad authority to restrict speech on its own property (at least setting aside traditional public forums, which transportation ad space is not, see the linked-to opinion’s favorable citation to the Lehman v. City of Shaker Heights plurality opinion). But even in such a nonpublic forum that’s open for advertising purposes, it may not restrict speech based on viewpoint. And a ban on speech that “appear[s] to promote the use of firearms” — but not speech that appears to oppose the use of firearms — is viewpoint-based.

It’s possible that a ban on the advertising of nonspeech products, such as guns, might be treated more deferentially (a difficult question that I set aside here). But a general ban on speech that seems to promote the use of firearms would be unconstitutional (see the highlighted passage in R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul), both as to noncommercial advertisements — e.g., political ads supporting private gun ownership and use — and as to the movie ads discussed here. And of course on top of this I can’t see how the ad here in fact promotes (or even appears to promote) the use of firearms or advocates any violent action.

But even if the policy were viewpoint-neutral — for instance, barred all depiction of guns, which might well qualify as viewpoint-neutral (depending on whether courts would focus on the agency’s possibly viewpoint-suppressive motivations) — and were thus constitutional, I think it would be pretty pathetic. Do the citizens of San Francisco really need to be protected from posters of actors pretending to shoot guns (with both hands yet, while jumping through the air)? Is the municipal government really worried that such ads, or any like them, will promote crime? Or is the government so absurdly pacifist that it just insists on not having anything on its property that seems to portray guns in a positive light? Let’s hope that San Franciscans drum some sense of perspective into their bureaucrats.

SFMTA Policy - http://www.sfmta.com/cms/aprocurement/advindx.htm

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/san-francisco-mta-bans-movie-ads-containing-guns

Steve

TakeFive
08-10-2010, 10:36 AM
That last sntence is pretty funny: "Drum some sense of perspective into their bureaucrats." The perspective of the frisco denizens is exactly represented by this idiotic policy. At least these fools are gathered together, now we just have to find the handle to flush them all at once.

Gunreference1
09-01-2010, 04:03 AM
San Francisco Flips Transit Policy; Ad Promotes Gun Rights Conference

BELLEVUE, Wash., Aug. 31 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- More than 15 huge advertisements promoting the 25th annual Gun Rights Policy Conference are up at prominent transit locations around the City of San Francisco, amounting to something of a coup for the Second Amendment Foundation.

You can see the ad that San Francisco MTA waived their anti-gun policy and allowed to run in order to avoid being sued at www.saf.org/SF-MTA_Ad.pdf.

SAF Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb, looking ahead eagerly to the Sept. 24-26 milestone conference, noted that the advertisements show a woman holding a shotgun and staring through a curtain, under the headline, "A violent criminal is breaking through your front door. Can you afford to be unarmed?" Gottlieb noted that the CalGuns Foundation assisted in the advertisement's preparation.

The silver anniversary conference will be held at the Hyatt Regency San Francisco Airport. Gun rights activists and leaders from across the nation will attend.

What is remarkable about the advertisement is that it appears the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency has violated its own guidelines, which prohibit advertising that "appears to promote the use of firearms." The MTA recently caused a flap by doctoring movie posters for a Will Farrell-Mark Wahlberg movie called "The Other Guys," removing handguns from the actors' hands and replacing them with a can of mace, a badge or just bare fists.

"We take this annual conference around the country," Gottlieb said, "to areas where our rights might be threatened. We're holding it in San Francisco this year because SAF was successful in overturning the city's 2005 handgun ban. Next year, we're holding it in Chicago, where SAF's lawsuit in McDonald v. City of Chicago led to the Supreme Court's ruling in June that applies the Second Amendment to the states.

"We suspect the MTA is allowing our ads in San Francisco despite their policy because they believed we were prepared to file a lawsuit on First and Second Amendment grounds if, for any reason, the city didn't take them," Gottlieb stated. "Knowing we were responsible for the McDonald victory over Chicago and the defeat of their own 2005 gun ban proposition, and probably aware of our litigation in New York, Maryland, North Carolina, Illinois and California, they did not want to lock horns with us again."

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/san-francisco-flips-transit-policy-ad-promotes-gun-rights-conference-101900788.html

Steve

insider
09-01-2010, 08:21 AM
What did you expect from a city run by queers?

Gunreference1
09-03-2010, 09:47 AM
Muni Admits Ban on Ads 'Promoting Use of Firearms' May Be Illegal

By Joe Eskenazi, Thu., Sep. 2 2010 @ 6:30AM

​Earlier this week, we reported on Muni pulling an about-face regarding ads advocating gun use -- faster than a speeding bullet.

While the transit agency edited the guns out of ads for the cop comedy The Other Guys due to policies forbidding billboards that "appear to promote the use of firearms," it subsequently accepted the Second Amendment Foundation's ads hyping a forthcoming gun-rights conference. These ads depict a shotgun-toting woman and the phrase "Can you afford to be unarmed?"

Clearly, this "promotes the use of firearms." So what gives?

It turns out that Muni's anti-firearm advertising policy may have to give -- give way, that is.

The transit agency's ad stipulations -- which also prohibit "obscene and pornographic" ads or billboards that "promote alcoholic beverages or tobacco products" -- were vetted by the city attorney's office in 2007. In June of this year, however, the Supreme Court handed gun-rights advocates a huge legal victory with a 5-4 ruling enshrining the Second Amendment's right to bear arms as fundamental -- and untouchable by state and local regulations.

​Muni spokesman Paul Rose acknowledged that this ruling may render the agency's ad policy illegal -- and it is currently reviewing the matter. (If Muni had refused the ads, Second Amendment Foundation boss Alan Gottlieb told SF Weekly he'd have filed suit instantaneously; filing suit would have been every bit as satisfying as having Muni run the ads).

"We want to take another look at our policy in light of recent Supreme Court decisions," said Rose. "One could argue that those decisions significantly altered the legal landscape as to ads and how they include firearms."

Perhaps. But one could definitely argue that any ban on ads "promoting the use of firearms" that allows an ad like the Second Amendment Foundation's is no ban at all.

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2010/09/muni_admits_barring_ads_promot.php

Steve

Gunreference1
09-07-2010, 06:56 AM
Gun group scores hit against SF image ban

By The New York Times
Published: Monday, Sep. 6, 2010 - 11:41 pm

SAN FRANCISCO -- A Supreme Court decision could alter what riders here see in ads on city buses and trains and in transit shelters.

Pro-gun images, which are banned under an ad policy of the San Francisco Metropolitan Transportation Agency, showed up recently on posters for a conference for the Second Amendment Foundation, a gun rights group based in Washington.

The group spent $10,000 to have the posters, which feature a woman with a shotgun, hung at bus stops.

The poster's red type reads: "A violent criminal is breaking through your front door. Can you afford to be unarmed?"

Click the link below to read the rest of the story.

http://www.sacbee.com/2010/09/06/3009639/gun-group-scores-hit-against-sf.html

Steve

Gunreference1
09-08-2010, 09:29 AM
San Francisco reconsidering gun ban in transit ads

By TREVOR HUNNICUTT (AP) – 14 hours ago

SAN FRANCISCO — The image of a woman brandishing a gun is gracing more than a dozen San Francisco bus stop shelters after the city suspended a policy banning firearms in advertisements on public transportation.

The advertisement, which gun-rights advocates created to promote a conference near the city later this month, was allowed to run after city transportation officials decided they might face a legal challenge on Second Amendment grounds for refusing it.

The Municipal Transportation Agency is "taking a step back" to review its policy in light of a recent U.S. Supreme Court decision that said Second Amendment gun protections apply on a state and local level, spokesman Paul Rose said.

The ruling "may have significantly altered the landscape in terms of gun rights in this country," Rose said. "We just want to be very clear — very transparent — about what can be posted on our system."

Click the link below to read the rest of the story.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gx4e4YhdVApFm8fHZhab6TtVLkYwD9I3CTS80

Steve

Gunreference1
09-09-2010, 09:19 AM
http://reason.com/assets/mc/jsullum/2010_09/SAF-poster.jpg

San Francisco's Gun Picture Ban

Jacob Sullum | September 8, 2010

The New York Times reports that the San Francisco Metropolitan Transportation Agency (SFMTA) is rethinking its rule against ads that "appear to promote the use of firearms." Columbia Pictures had to produce special San Francisco editions of posters advertising the cop comedy The Other Guys, replacing guns held by stars Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg with "more innocuous pepper spray canisters, police badges and bare hands." Yet posters advertising an upcoming gun rights conference sponsored by the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) went up unaltered.

To read the rest of the story click the link below.

http://reason.com/blog/2010/09/08/san-franciscos-gun-picture-ban

Steve

Gunreference1
09-17-2010, 02:06 AM
San Francisco Gun Poster Ban in Limbo

Published September 16, 2010 by:
Jeffery Thompson

A Contributor Perspective: Policy Against Guns on City Owned Advertising Spaces is Under Fire

The city of San Francisco has never been friendly to gun owners and the shops that cater to them. SF is among the first cities in the United States to try and pass a comprehensive handgun ban within the city limits, and is also the leading big city regarding bans on gun stores. In fact there is but one lonely gun shop in the city of San Francisco. However, a debate over some policies put forward by the San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency are casting doubt on how aggressively the city should go after gun owners. The Agency has had a longstanding policy that bans guns from posters and advertisement that the city sells to private companies. For example, on posters for the Will Ferrell Movie "The Other Guys" were significantly different in San Francisco, compared to every other large municipality in the country. While most posters for the movie have the two protagonists back to back holding guns, in San Francisco they are holding spray paint, police badges, or nothing at all. (1)

Click the link below to read the rest of the story.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5781544/san_francisco_gun_poster_ban_in_limbo.html

Steve