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Broondog
08-10-2010, 12:04 PM
if i was a new guy i might be put off by seeing a thread titled "hey queers" in the latest thread column on the front page.

i thought i read somewhere in a 'new beginnings' thread that RH posts wouldn't appear there. with all of the talk about dialing it down for new folks and sponsors, this doesn't look good or help our cause.

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii365/broondog007/front-forum.png

chiak47
08-10-2010, 12:21 PM
PC is a form of censorship

Blacksmith
08-10-2010, 12:28 PM
if i was a new guy i might be put off by seeing a thread titled "hey queers" in the latest thread column on the front page.

i thought i read somewhere in a 'new beginnings' thread that RH posts wouldn't appear there. with all of the talk about dialing it down for new folks and sponsors, this doesn't look good or help our cause.

[IMG]http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii365/broondog007/front-forum.png
If they take them out of the column. the column becomes useless and they might as well remove the new post tab as well.
IMO
Those that don’t want it should be able to contact a mod and have their account adjusted so it will not be viewable. But I don’t see the sense of ruining everyone else’s ability to see what is going on, just to appease the humorless few.

El Laton Caliente
08-10-2010, 12:49 PM
PC is a form of censorship

So is no porn in elementry school... there has to be a line somewhere.

Dr. Gonzo GED
08-10-2010, 12:54 PM
Yeah, if they took the roadhouse threads out of that sidebar, it wouldn't hurt...

elkydriver
08-10-2010, 01:00 PM
PC is a form of censorship

PC may be a form of censorship, but in this case, it is also putting our best foot forward, and not in our mouths. The Roadhouse does not necissarily show the best side of Gunsnet to new or potential members (if they can even get in there without registering). Not showing our ass on the front page can go a long way to building this site back to what it was before

Blacksmith
08-10-2010, 01:06 PM
Not showing our ass on the front page can go a long way to building this site back to what it was before


Before the site was not heavily censored like it is now.
Perhaps that is what made it what it was.
If it becomes no different than the other sites on the net, what is the incentive to join or even stay?

Broondog
08-10-2010, 01:11 PM
PC may be a form of censorship, but in this case, it is also putting our best foot forward, and not in our mouths. The Roadhouse does not necissarily show the best side of Gunsnet to new or potential members (if they can even get in there without registering). Not showing our ass on the front page can go a long way to building this site back to what it was before

that's exactly my point. and didn't RJ post a memo in the RH detailing leaving that sort of BS down there for the good of the board? the OP is directly along those lines.

the RH is a nice place to visit but i wouldn't want to live there. having it "out front" for god and country to see may not be the best idea.

Krupski
08-10-2010, 01:23 PM
PC is a form of censorship

I agree with Broondog. There is a difference between "censorship" and "putting one's best face forward".

I can "swear like a sailor", but I wouldn't do it in front of my mother-in-law.

Roadhouse content should not be front and center. I agree it COULD turn prospective members away.

Meatball
08-10-2010, 01:26 PM
Why do we even need the side column?

Krupski
08-10-2010, 01:28 PM
Why do we even need the side column?

I dunno. I don't like it, but I didn't want to be accused of complaining.

elkydriver
08-10-2010, 01:29 PM
Before the site was not heavily censored like it is now.
Perhaps that is what made it what it was.
If it becomes no different than the other sites on the net, what is the incentive to join or even stay?

I dont see any difference in censorship between the site as it is now, and how it used to be. THe roadhouse is the roadhouse, and as such does not reflect the views or ideals of the rest of the board. ( I dont need talk about dicks and queers getting in the way of true information and intelligent discourse)
The board is still healing from its downtime, and once the more reclusive members return (if they ever do) then the conversation will most likely return to normal.
That being said, if you dont like it, Dont click on it, and feel free to let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. This is a board for PROFIT, and as such, needs to uphold some form of values, or the sponsors will leave. You dont see too many successful commercial Brick and Mortar businesses conducting operations that would be roadhouse worthy staying in business for long, without the dregs of society accumulating. The roadhouse is, or should be a place to blow off steam, bust some balls, and have fun, not be the public face of anything.

Broondog
08-10-2010, 01:42 PM
Before the site was not heavily censored like it is now.
Perhaps that is what made it what it was.
If it becomes no different than the other sites on the net, what is the incentive to join or even stay?

oh, but it is different. how many mainstream sites do you know of that even have something like the RH? i know of zero.

this site was the pinnacle of firearms knowledge on the net. i'd like to see it reclaim that status level. having "hey queers" or the like on the front page just makes us a joke to the world.


ETA: something tells me that this thread will hit the basement by the end of the day. :biggrina:

gunsnetadmin
08-10-2010, 01:43 PM
If you'all dont want that "recent threads" there... let Guns Network Staff know. Now that you'all mention it that way.. yea, maybe thats not such a good idea to have it.

Broondog
08-10-2010, 01:47 PM
If you'all dont want that "recent threads" there... let Guns Network Staff know. Now that you'all mention it that way.. yea, maybe thats not such a good idea to have it.

is there just a way to tag the RH so that thread titles don't pop into that sidebar?

a lot of folks use that sidebar so it is useful. i don't use it but i'm just different. :D

Blacksmith
08-10-2010, 01:48 PM
That being said, if you dont like it, Dont click on it, and feel free to let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

This statement is confusing. In one post you are wanting it removed and in the next post “if you dont like it, Dont click on it, and feel free to let the door hit you on the ass on the way out”
So which is it? Do you want it left there or not?

Why do we even need the side column?
It was put up to help us get around.
But if it is going to cause these types of problems, I would rather they delete it all together.
IMO
It won’t help much to only display some of the recent threads and not all of the recent threads.

elkydriver
08-10-2010, 01:52 PM
This statement is confusing. In one post you are wanting it removed and in the next post “if you dont like it, Dont click on it, and feel free to let the door hit you on the ass on the way out”
So which is it? Do you want it left there or not?

I was referring to you stating "If it becomes no different than the other sites on the net, what is the incentive to join or even stay? " in another post.

The sidebar should stay, as it is a good intro to what is going on. It just needs a filter for keeping the roadhouse from backing up and contaminating the rest of the site for those who arent accustomed to its proclivities.

imanaknut
08-10-2010, 01:54 PM
Personally I would like to have the ability to not see the Roadhouse if I don't want to. Similar to the ignore list, it would be nice to have a pickoff to all certain forums to be ignored during a search. Likewise, if you have a forum selected as ignore, it would not show up in your sidebar.

Just the humble opinion of a gun-nut.

Blacksmith
08-10-2010, 01:59 PM
Personally I would like to have the ability to not see the Roadhouse if I don't want to. Similar to the ignore list, it would be nice to have a pickoff to all certain forums to be ignored during a search. Likewise, if you have a forum selected as ignore, it would not show up in your sidebar.

Just the humble opinion of a gun-nut.

This is a fix all answer :thumbsup:

Blacksmith
08-10-2010, 02:03 PM
I was referring to you stating "If it becomes no different than the other sites on the net, what is the incentive to join or even stay? " in another post.

:conf44:
So you where basically telling me to leave. Just because I disagree with you?

slamfire51
08-10-2010, 02:04 PM
IIRC, Admin said the roadhouse can not be accessed or seen by non members.

ETA: I'll log out and see.

slamfire51
08-10-2010, 02:09 PM
If you're NOT a member, The Roadhouse isn't visible or accessible.
But this thread is.

RJ Shooter
08-10-2010, 02:15 PM
If you're NOT a member, The Roadhouse isn't visible.
But this thread is.This is true. You have to be a member, and logged on to see the Roadhouse. I'm not sure what can be done, programming-wise to turn visibility on or off for individual users. Gunsnetadmin will need to answer that question...

But, I know that that portion of the website shouldn't even show up for Yahoo, Google, et al. search engines either.

You must be signed up and in...

gunsnetadmin
08-10-2010, 02:19 PM
let me turn it back on. I selected 1 forum to see if it will work properly. It has the ability to select what goes in there and I specifically de-selected RH but it was still showing up. So I'll deselect everything but 1 forum to see if it works.

gunsnetadmin
08-10-2010, 02:21 PM
so far so good.. I'll add forums a block at a time and re-check. give me a few seconds while I work.. lol

Broondog
08-10-2010, 02:24 PM
If you're NOT a member, The Roadhouse isn't visible or accessible.
But this thread is.

that solves it for guests. i wonder how the sponsors feel?

i myself always come in through a "side door". http://www.gunsnet.net/forumdisplay.php?1-Guns-Network-Discussion-Forums

i only use the "Forum" button (where the latest threads sidebar is) when i'm headed to the AK or C&R sections.

slamfire51
08-10-2010, 02:24 PM
I Googled "Guns Net roadhouse" and only came up with this:
http://www.gunsnet.net/showthread.php?820-When-gunsnet-was-down...

elkydriver
08-10-2010, 02:26 PM
:conf44:
So you where basically telling me to leave. Just because I disagree with you?

I may disagree with you on this, but I was referring to your own stated desire to "even stay" based upon your percieved censorship of the site. Whether you stay or go doesnt make me any nevermind as neither you, nor I own the site, and all we can do is state our beliefs to the powers that be, along with the rest of the membership. If I read this thread correctly though, you are in the minority as far as wanting to see the roadhouse show to ALL on the front page, and are one of two that has stated censorship here.

gunsnetadmin
08-10-2010, 02:26 PM
ok... I think that took care of it. had to delete the block and redo the selection.

AKTexas
08-10-2010, 02:27 PM
So we got our fix and all is well again in gunsnet land.

slamfire51
08-10-2010, 02:29 PM
ok... I think that took care of it. had to delete the block and redo the selection.

What exactly did you do? In layman's terms.

slamfire51
08-10-2010, 02:29 PM
So we got our fix and all is well again in gunsnet land.

You think?

RJ Shooter
08-10-2010, 02:30 PM
ok... I think that took care of it. had to delete the block and redo the selection.Thank you Chief! Very quick and efficient work... ;)

Broondog
08-10-2010, 02:31 PM
So we got our fix and all is well again in gunsnet land.

it would appear so. that is until the ACLU comes by and cries censorship. :D

RJ Shooter
08-10-2010, 02:32 PM
What exactly did you do? In layman's terms.He "Turned Off" the roadhouse showing up in the portal!

I would assume that it will stay in the "New Posts" search.

slamfire51
08-10-2010, 02:33 PM
He "Turned Off" the roadhouse showing up in the portal!

I would assume that it will stay in the "New Posts" search.

Got it.
Thanks.

Blacksmith
08-10-2010, 02:33 PM
I may disagree with you on this, but I was referring to your own stated desire to "even stay" based upon your percieved censorship of the site. Whether you stay or go doesnt make me any nevermind as neither you, nor I own the site, and all we can do is state our beliefs to the powers that be, along with the rest of the membership. If I read this thread correctly though, you are in the minority as far as wanting to see the roadhouse show to ALL on the front page, and are one of two that has stated censorship here.
I’ve been on this site for many years and I will be here for many more.
If you have a problem comprehending a post. than I would recommend reviewing the person that posted it, before launching an attack over your misperception.


If I read this thread correctly though, you are in the minority as far as wanting to see the roadhouse show to ALL on the front page, and are one of two that has stated censorship here.
You have an interesting way of twisting a debate. I could have sworn my argument was “If they take them out of the column. the column becomes useless”
Are you able to comprehend that now? If not perhaps you can have somebody explain it to you.

CigarGuy
08-10-2010, 02:35 PM
Could you make it a "private" room of which you had to be "invited" to join? That way it wouldn't show to anybody unless by used id, as added by the admin. The rest of us/new people wouldn't know anything about it?

slamfire51
08-10-2010, 02:45 PM
Could you make it a "private" room of which you had to be "invited" to join? That way it wouldn't show to anybody unless by used id, as added by the admin. The rest of us/new people wouldn't know anything about it?


I don't think that would be fair to members who choose to visit there. I wasn't "locked" before, and IMO, shouldn't be now.
Go there or don't, it should be your choice. I've gone there maybe 6 times in the last 7 yrs. It was my choice to go, and my choice to stay out.

Guns Network Staff
08-10-2010, 02:47 PM
The Road House will stay as it is. Just like the channels on TV, it's there but I never go there unless someone makes it an issue to go there.

slamfire51
08-10-2010, 02:50 PM
The Road House will stay as it is. Just like the channels on TV, it's there but I never go there unless someone makes it an issue to go there.


:thumbspbig:

elkydriver
08-10-2010, 03:05 PM
I’ve been on this site for many years and I will be here for many more.
If you have a problem comprehending a post. than I would recommend reviewing the person that posted it, before launching an attack over your misperception.

You have an interesting way of twisting a debate. I could have sworn my argument was “If they take them out of the column. the column becomes useless”
Are you able to comprehend that now? If not perhaps you can have somebody explain it to you.

I as well have been here many years (more than you, if you want to throw that out there) I have little problem comprehending what you were saying. Trust me, if I wanted to launch an attack, it wouldnt be in this area.

As for the issue at hand, I fail to see how taking the listings for the roadhouse out of the column would make it useless, unless they removed ALL posts from the column, in which case, you would indeed be correct. In this case however, removing merely the roadhouse posts has not made the column useless, it just cleans it up for appearances sake for the new and prospective members, which if I comprehend correctly, was the point of the OP. Have a nice day :D

AKTexas
08-10-2010, 03:09 PM
it would appear so. that is until the ACLU comes by and cries censorship. :D

Be sure to handle some tucks medicated butthurt pads to the injured.


You think?

I'm not that naive to think all is gumdrops and lollypops.

Blacksmith
08-10-2010, 03:16 PM
As for the issue at hand, I fail to see how taking the listings for the roadhouse out of the column would make it useless
I imagine if you don’t use or view the roadhouse, it does not make any difference.
However, if you are someone that does not ignore certain members or sections, it becomes worthless because it is incomplete. The new post tap is still intact, so I am content using that.

RJ Shooter
08-10-2010, 03:48 PM
OK, this is a stupid argument... Let's drop it! ;)

ubersoldate
08-10-2010, 03:53 PM
I can "swear like a sailor", but I wouldn't do it in front of my mother-in-law..

A man should never be afraid of his mother in law.

filthy phil
08-10-2010, 04:03 PM
if i was a new guy i might be put off by seeing a thread titled "hey queers" in the latest thread column on the front page.

i thought i read somewhere in a 'new beginnings' thread that RH posts wouldn't appear there. with all of the talk about dialing it down for new folks and sponsors, this doesn't look good or help our cause.

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii365/broondog007/front-forum.png

it's a miketx thread. what do you expect?

abpt1
08-10-2010, 04:16 PM
Personally I would like to have the ability to not see the Roadhouse if I don't want to. Similar to the ignore list, it would be nice to have a pickoff to all certain forums to be ignored during a search. Likewise, if you have a forum selected as ignore, it would not show up in your sidebar.

Just the humble opinion of a gun-nut.
Welcome to the RH nut I think in the three years I have been this is the first time I have ever seen you in the basement...

Broondog
08-10-2010, 04:33 PM
Welcome to the RH nut I think in the three years I have been this is the first time I have ever seen you in the basement...

uhhh, we're still upstairs dude! :toke:

RJ Shooter
08-10-2010, 04:39 PM
uhhh, we're still upstairs dude! :toke::lool:

renegadebuck
08-10-2010, 04:49 PM
uhhh, we're still upstairs dude! :toke:

Don't confuse him with facts!!! :D

O.S.O.K.
08-10-2010, 05:04 PM
My read on this is that we should hide the rooad house "new posts" from the side bar.

This is in keeping with the whole idea of the road house after all.

The road house exists to provide a place for members to go - away from the rest of the forums.... and let their hair down. They can go there and look to see what's new.

Keeping it in that forum and not "bannering" the posts such as the one in the OP is just common sense IMHO.

Newbies aren't going to know how to switch it on and off...

And I don't think we want RH posts being the first thing they see upon entering the site.

deth502
08-10-2010, 07:03 PM
I don't think that would be fair to members who choose to visit there. I wasn't "locked" before, and IMO, shouldn't be now.
Go there or don't, it should be your choice. I've gone there maybe 6 times in the last 7 yrs. It was my choice to go, and my choice to stay out.

i remember back when they tried to restrict the rh to paying members only. then the non paying member that frequented ther just moved to gd instead and fucked shit up worse. then the flaming trash can was instituted as a substitute to stop that, and just became another rh anyway.

imo, i agree with blacksmith. the freedom of this board is what makes it what it is. i can go to hundreds of other gun boards that will delete and lock any threads they dont like, but i dont. i come here. now, on most of these "more pc" boards, i do try to adjust my diction to "fit in" but for fucks sake, sometimes, fuck is just the right word to use, and theres nothing i hate more than typing out fuck only to hit "post" and see it as "freak" or "f*ck" or worse, "****" that is what helps make this forum what it is.

abpt1
08-10-2010, 07:06 PM
fuck .


ok its been a bad day i just lost a receipt for work slammed my finger in the car door and just 2min ago cut my thumb ......and my day ended 4.5 hrs ago

abpt1
08-10-2010, 07:07 PM
Don't confuse him with facts!!! :D
fuck you grandpa :fy:

renegadebuck
08-10-2010, 07:20 PM
fuck you grandpa :fy:


:lool::roflmao::lool: Right Spaz!!

crapshoot
08-10-2010, 07:25 PM
if i was a new guy i might be put off by seeing a thread titled "hey queers" in the latest thread column on the front page.

i thought i read somewhere in a 'new beginnings' thread that RH posts wouldn't appear there. with all of the talk about dialing it down for new folks and sponsors, this doesn't look good or help our cause.

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii365/broondog007/broondoggettingpoundedby5dudes.png


http://www.saycampuslife.com/images/tissue-box.jpg

Batwing
08-10-2010, 07:45 PM
when I go to gunsnet on my pc at work (not auto log on) I can't view the roadhouse forum,but I can see evrything else,I just wanted to add that casual browsers can't see the roadhouse,at least for some reason I can't,until I log in

aliceinchains
08-10-2010, 07:56 PM
OK, Now it is time for a group hug.:wiggle:

RJ Shooter
08-10-2010, 08:32 PM
My read on this is that we should hide the road house "new posts" from the side bar.If you read the entire post, this has already been taken care of.

RJ Shooter
08-10-2010, 08:33 PM
fuck you grandpa :fy:Aaaaaand, we're still upstairs...

Blacksmith
08-10-2010, 11:43 PM
LMAO
The irony of this thread.
One person shows back up after a long absence and starts a thread in a forum equivalent to a mash pit. entitled “Hay queers”. and somebody screams “That is inappropriate for a gun site” and instantly it is banned from the front page. yet we have threads about some guy swearing that bigfoot tried to kill him. and other threads about how bush took down the trade center and others how we never landed on the moon and others how Jesus does not exist etc etc etc. and they go unchecked. (All on the old data base. You know, when we had several thousands of members)
I remember a new member recently stating how he was happy he found this site. and he specifically named a thread about a guy asking our opinions about what to name his new child.
Did anyone ever stop to think that we should just be who we are? and the membership will grow?

Blacksmith
08-11-2010, 12:04 AM
Re: I’m glad I’m not a GN prospect
if i was a new guy i might be put off by seeing a thread titled “Proving that nobody can get into heaven”
in the latest thread column on the front page.

RJ Shooter
08-11-2010, 12:07 AM
Re: I’m glad I’m not a GN prospect
if i was a new guy i might be put off by seeing a thread titled “Proving that nobody can get into heaven”
in the latest thread column on the front page.It sometimes makes me want to leave as well...

Blacksmith
08-11-2010, 12:11 AM
It sometimes makes me want to leave as well...

Is that why you put that sticky in the roadhouse when it is clearly the General discussion members pulling the crap?

Krupski
08-11-2010, 12:27 AM
so far so good.. I'll add forums a block at a time and re-check. give me a few seconds while I work.. lol

IMHO... if the side bar displays new posts from anywhere BUT the Roadhouse, it would be great.

Krupski
08-11-2010, 12:30 AM
A man should never be afraid of his mother in law.

I'm not afraid of my mother in law. I respect her.

Blacksmith
08-11-2010, 12:30 AM
IMHO... if the side bar displays new posts from anywhere BUT the Roadhouse, it would be great.

I’m not surprised that “Proving that nobody can get into heaven”would not bother you.

Blacksmith
08-11-2010, 01:13 AM
BTT for the night crew. I’m going to bed.