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Gunreference1
08-11-2010, 09:00 AM
SF supervisor's gun-violence effort targets bullets

By: Erin Sherbert
Examiner Staff Writer
August 11, 2010

SAN FRANCISCO — In taking aim at gun control in The City, one supervisor is looking into creating an ammunition registry that would make it easier to trace bullets bought and sold locally.

Supervisor Michela Alioto-Pier said she’s working with the City Attorney’s Office to craft legislation that would essentially expand on state law that monitors handgun ammunition.

“It’s to try and crack down on gun violence,” Alioto-Pier said.

She’s attempting to get around California law that currently prohibits cities from creating a gun registry. Alioto-Pier said The City could achieve the same goal with a bullet registry that’s accessible to the public.

State gun advocates say such legislation would make San Francisco a target for lawsuits — again. Last year, California passed a law intended to more closely monitor the sale of ammunition. The law prohibits ammo from being bought or sold online. And, it requires vendors to keep a log of who’s buying ammunition.

Now, the state is looking to protect those consumers with a pending bill that would keep information about ammunition sales confidential.

“San Francisco needs to look in the mirror. They like to champion themselves as civil rights advocates, but if they don’t represent what’s confirmed is a fundamental right to bear arms, they are being hypocritical,” said Chuck Michel, chief attorney for the National Rifle Association and California Rifle and Pistol Association.

San Francisco has a long history of brushing up against the NRA and gun advocates in an effort to crack down on gun control.

In 2009, The City was sued by gun advocates who challenged an ordinance that forces gun owners to either store their firearms in a locked container or disable them with trigger locks.

In 2008, the NRA and the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms sued San Francisco, challenging The City’s ordinances that prohibit possession of firearms on city-controlled properties such as parks, stadiums, hospitals and recreation centers.

And in 2003, San Francisco, along with many other cities, reached a settlement with gun industry distributors and dealers to include major distribution reforms and payment.

esherbert@sfexaminer.com


State registration
The law: AB 962

Takes effect: Feb. 1, 2011

Applies to: Handgun ammunition

Requires:

Sellers to store ammo out of customers’ reach

Registration and fingerprinting of buyers

Prohibits mail order and Internet sales

Source: www.calgunlaws.com

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/SF-supervisors-gun-violence-effort-targets-bullets-100411504.html

Steve

Dr. Gonzo GED
08-11-2010, 12:56 PM
I guess this is easier to tackle than the drug dealers and prostitutes that operate completely out in the open with impunity all over that peninsula.

Gunreference1
08-12-2010, 06:28 AM
San Francisco Eyes Ammunition Registry; CCRKBA Vows Lawsuit

BELLEVUE, Wash., Aug. 11 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Today's revelation that the City of San Francisco might consider an ammunition registry scheme brought a promise from the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms that a lawsuit would quickly follow.

CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb said in a report in the San Francisco Examiner that Supervisor Michela Alioto-Pier is working with the City Attorney's Office to "craft legislation" regarding an ammunition registry shows the city has learned nothing from its defeat in court over a 2005 gun ban proposition. CCRKBA joined the Second Amendment Foundation, National Rifle Association and other plaintiffs in the lawsuit that nullified the ban because it violates state statute. Now that the Second Amendment has been incorporated to the states by the U.S. Supreme Court, proposals like this one are even more dubious, he observed.

"It appears that Alioto-Pier is trying to be too clever by half," Gottlieb said. "It's a de facto registration scheme hiding behind a make-believe effort to crack down on violent crime, and she knows it. We will fight it."

He noted that it is ironic for the city to be considering such an idea on the eve of the annual Gun Rights Policy Conference, scheduled for the weekend of Sept. 24-26 at the San Francisco Airport Hyatt Regency hotel. Gun rights activists and experts from across the nation will gather at the hotel to discuss recent court cases, current legal actions and anti-gun proposals like the one now reportedly being formulated by Alioto-Pier.

"It would seem to me that with the state's economy in tatters, cutbacks in public safety budgets and federal courts mandating that more criminals must be released from prisons that the city would not make it harder for citizens to defend themselves," Gottlieb stated. "But in San Francisco, it is politically fashionable to penalize honest people for the misbehavior of the criminal element. It makes you wonder whose side the government is on.

"You can bet we'll be discussing this at our conference in September," he concluded. "Ms. Alioto-Pier has an open invitation to attend and explain her scheme to a room full of experts."

With more than 650,000 members and supporters nationwide, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (www.ccrkba.org) is one of the nation's premier gun rights organizations. As a non-profit organization, the Citizens Committee is dedicated to preserving firearms freedoms through active lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grass-roots organization of gun rights activists in local communities throughout the United States.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/san-francisco-eyes-ammunition-registry-ccrkba-vows-lawsuit-100451729.html

Steve

old Grump
08-15-2010, 05:43 AM
When the city workers get all of those unpaid furloughs due to the budget cutbacks and since they won't have the money to do anything fun due to their decrease in pay they can just come in and fill out a form for every bullet sold on their day off. If they get bored I can bring in a few thousand rounds for them to register for me. Do they have an out od state bullet registration form. If the service is free and they will pay shipping costs and send my ammo back the day they get it I'll let them register all my ammo.

HDR
08-15-2010, 05:52 AM
I guess this is easier to tackle than the drug dealers and prostitutes that operate completely out in the open with impunity all over that peninsula.

They invest more time and effort denying law abiding people their Rights than they invest arresting criminals. Typically the Left, they have more time for their agendas than they do for what is needed. We see this in action everyday with 0bama.