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ATAK, Inc.
08-11-2010, 06:34 PM
TEN STATES WITH HIGHEST PER-CAPITA DEBT
RANK STATE PC DEBT
1 . Massachusetts $ 10,504
2 . Alaska 9,621
3 . Rhode Island 7,994
4 . Connecticut 6,830
5 . Delaware 6,082
6 . New Jersey 5,938
7 . New Hampshire 5,860
8 . New York 5,666
9 . Vermont 4,917
10 . Montana 4,861
Only 2 (Alaska and Montana) voted mostly Republican in the last 5 presidential elections. The 8 others voted primarily Democrat.
TEN STATES WITH HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT
1 Nevada 14.2
2 Michigan 13.2
3 California 12.3
4 Rhode Island 12
5 Florida 11.4
6 Mississippi 11
7 South Carolina 10.7
8 Ohio 10.5
9 Oregon 10.5
10 Illinois 10.4
Only 2 (Mississippi and South Carolina) voted mostly Republican in the last 5 presidential elections. The 8 others voted primarily Democrat.
Once again, the facts speak for themselves.
TEN POOREST U.S. CITIES
City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
5. Miami , FL 26.9%
6. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
10. Newark , NJ 24.2%
U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007
What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961.
Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1954.
Cincinnati , OH (3rd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1984.
Cleveland , OH (4th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1989.
Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor.
St. Louis , MO (6th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1949.
El Paso , TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor.
Milwaukee , WI (8th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1908.
Philadelphia , PA (9th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1952.
Newark , NJ (10th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1907.
It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats yet they are still POOR!
"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
O.S.O.K.
08-11-2010, 06:38 PM
Well, when the economy tanks from all of this debt load, and things go to hell in a hand basket, they will make decent table fare. :evil-bbq:
:laugh::wow: JK!!
They are only good to use as an exmple to your children of how not to be.
old Grump
08-11-2010, 06:43 PM
"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves." That says it all.
It's the difference between giving a man a fish
selling him a fish
or teaching a man how to fish.
This won't happen with a feel good give away program organized and enforced by civil servants and funded by those who are out fishing, farming and making things.
cevulirn
08-11-2010, 09:37 PM
What are liberals good for? In the words of Michael Z. Williamson.... "Soft Cover."
O.S.O.K.
08-11-2010, 09:38 PM
What are liberals good for? In the words of Michael Z. Williamson.... "Soft Cover."
Oh shit - I forgot that oh most important first step. Right, check. Soft cover... then BBQ. :coffee:
AKTexas
08-11-2010, 09:43 PM
The liberals are good for wiping my ass.
matshock
08-11-2010, 09:55 PM
Oh shit - I forgot that oh most important first step. Right, check. Soft cover... then BBQ. :coffee:
Cook em good- they have cooties.
Oswald Bastable
08-11-2010, 10:16 PM
If they weren't so damned pfrench, they might make good cannon fodder...
Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961.
Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1954.
Cincinnati , OH (3rd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1984.
Cleveland , OH (4th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1989.
Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor.
St. Louis , MO (6th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1949.
El Paso , TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor.
Milwaukee , WI (8th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1908.
Philadelphia , PA (9th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1952.
Newark , NJ (10th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1907.
The question is: would any of those places have any less poverty if a Republican was mayor? I think not. The problem goes much deeper than mere political party, it has a lot more to do with economics than politics.
It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats yet they are still POOR!
What do you expect a politician to do? Really redistribute wealth to pull the poor people up? There would be outrage from the right, outrage I tell you!
"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
Who said anything about destroying them? Why not just even the playing field a little bit? Bring the big boys down a notch while lifting the little guy up considerably? Re-build that middle-class that America used to be about, before we saw this Great Divide of haves and have-nots that is increasingly defining America.
ATAK, Inc.
08-11-2010, 11:11 PM
The question is: would any of those places have any less poverty if a Republican was mayor? I think not. The problem goes much deeper than mere political party, it has a lot more to do with economics than politics.
You think not based on what? How you feel??? And aren't economics driven by politics?
What do you expect a politician to do? Really redistribute wealth to pull the poor people up? There would be outrage from the right, outrage I tell you!
That's what you expect, as stated in your next sentence!
Who said anything about destroying them? Why not just even the playing field a little bit? Bring the big boys down a notch while lifting the little guy up considerably? Re-build that middle-class that America used to be about, before we saw this Great Divide of haves and have-nots that is increasingly defining America.
Who the F%CK are you!!! Would you want someone taking your hard earned $$$? Making something of yourself is part of that great American dream, getting "brought down a notch" is the socialist dream!
Who the F%CK are you!!! Would you want someone taking your hard earned $$$? Making something of yourself is part of that great American dream, getting "brought down a notch" is the socialist dream!
In most cases, the money that comes from the rich isn't "hard-earned" at all. It was built up by extracting profits from many, many workers below them. All most rich people have to do is sit back and watch their stock dividends pour in. That's the extent of their "work." If they are going to be stingy and not spend their money, why shouldn't some of it be taxed away and given to the rest of us so we can spend it and stimulate the economy?
Kadmos
08-11-2010, 11:45 PM
What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961.
Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1954.
Cincinnati , OH (3rd) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1984.
Cleveland , OH (4th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1989.
Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican mayor.
St. Louis , MO (6th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1949.
El Paso , TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor.
Milwaukee , WI (8th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1908.
Philadelphia , PA (9th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1952.
Newark , NJ (10th) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1907.
They have a lot more in common than just not having elected a republican in a long time.
For starters all of those cities have (or historically have had) a huge union presence.
They mostly all were heavily industrialized and have lost much of that to overseas competition.
It's really not surprising that poor people tend to live in cities. Cities are one of the few places left in America where a person can start with nothing and make something of a living. Few places in the countryside have cheap rent, a fairly wide job market, places where if need be a person can squat, or beg, without being run out of town by cops.
Which leads me to another thing, in Missouri if a person is let out of prison and has no where to go, they are given a bus ticket to St. Louis. So if someone from Kansas gets jailed in Missouri, and when its time for release, they get bussed to here, unless they can prove they have another place to go. Homeless who are found in small towns often get bussed here as well.
I imagine a number of states do something similar.
Oswald Bastable
08-12-2010, 12:49 AM
In most cases, the money that comes from the rich isn't "hard-earned" at all. It was built up by extracting profits from many, many workers below them. All most rich people have to do is sit back and watch their stock dividends pour in.
You have proof of this? How many rich people have you personally known well enough to say this, or is this just based on the propaganda you've bought into hook, line and sinker?
That's the extent of their "work." If they are going to be stingy and not spend their money, why shouldn't some of it be taxed away and given to the rest of us so we can spend it and stimulate the economy?
And who, exactly, are you...to decide what should be done with someone else's money? Money you didn't earn, however it was earned.
Goodman
08-12-2010, 01:15 AM
When you get your business up and running I'm curious about how hard you are willing to work when a full third of your income is taxed away (happens around $65K a year income). How hard will you work when half is taxed away? How about two thirds? Next question- Let's ay you have spent 10 years building your business (and really, you could make it happen in Ketchum and fast), you've saved a couple of hundred thousand and I am out of work in Hailey. I don't think it's fair and help push a new tax bracket through which will take a chunk of your savings and make you pay and extra $7500 a year. With your financial adviser telling you how to avoid the new tax would you really just tell him to pay the new tax? Or are you going to shelter the hell out of your assets and wait until there's a more investment-friendly environment?
It is YOUR money, LAGC, you've earned it by building your business. What will YOU do with it? You gonna let someone else help themselves to it with no argument?
swampdragon
08-12-2010, 02:32 AM
In most cases, the money that comes from the rich isn't "hard-earned" at all. It was built up by extracting profits from many, many workers below them. All most rich people have to do is sit back and watch their stock dividends pour in. That's the extent of their "work." If they are going to be stingy and not spend their money, why shouldn't some of it be taxed away and given to the rest of us so we can spend it and stimulate the economy?
Hahahahaha....
You bring lazy and stupid to a whole new level....
If being rich is so damned easy, then why are you whining about being poor?
Go get rich yourself then.
Oh wait...you can't.
Because it actually requires work after all doesn't it dumb ass?
Blacksmith
08-12-2010, 02:54 AM
Cook em good- they have cooties.
Doesn’t work.
There is no way possible to get the bull shit taste out of them.
63DH8
08-12-2010, 02:54 AM
What are liberals good for? They're good for thinking of social programs to help people. Unfortunately, liberals tend not to think about the repercussions of these programs. In their perfect world, the Government gives them everything. What they don't see is what happens when people are given everything they need without working for it. The US has a nasty little secret that she keeps under wraps. For over 100 years, there was a selected part of this Nation that is given a check to live off of, whose participants don't have to lift a finger to get. The result was these people went from a once proud people to living worse than some third world nations. Yup! It's right here in the good ol' US of A! Next time you drive through the Dakotas, Arizona, New Mexico, and other States that have Indian Reservations, take a drive through the areas where the people live. In other parts of the US where the tribe elders thought ahead and kept fishing Rights, the people don't seem to be doing too bad. As an example, here in Washington State, the Puyallup tribe (pronounced pu-yal-up) managed to keep their fishing grounds. They have a fairly good income fishing. Recently, they opened several casinos to provide more jobs and to provide money for their education and medical resources. They're a stark difference to the Dakota tribes I've seen in North and South Dakotas. What I saw at Crow Agency confirmed what I speculated about Socialism. It was up and working much longer than is was in East Germany and the rest of the countries who were behind the Iron Curtain.
l921428x
08-12-2010, 02:59 AM
In most cases, the money that comes from the rich isn't "hard-earned" at all. It was built up by extracting profits from many, many workers below them. All most rich people have to do is sit back and watch their stock dividends pour in. That's the extent of their "work." If they are going to be stingy and not spend their money, why shouldn't some of it be taxed away and given to the rest of us so we can spend it and stimulate the economy?
Do You Have A Job? If so I need your money, I am really trying, but I just can't seem to buy the things I want. Just a liitle help, say a 100$, from you would be
a stimulus. I do not have to thank you, it is what will make you feel better. That being said I will wait for your PM and send you my address.
Oswald Bastable
08-12-2010, 04:03 AM
Because it actually requires work after all doesn't it dumb ass?
And sacrifice...long years of sacrifice until it gets to the point where you actually have the kind of investments that continue to increase your wealth of their own accord. Not to mention that within the process, you're creating jobs for others, increasing their position and standing. But lefty wouldn't understand any of that. He doesn't believe in personal sacrifice, he believes it should be handed to him on a silver platter, and that he should be able to spit in your face as he takes it. And he's never created a single job for someone else in his life...he could never imagine doing something so capitalistic as that. His opprobrious intellect wouldn't allow it.
The liberals are good for wiping my ass.
I agree however it is they way they do it that I can't handle... :asslick:
Mark Ducati
08-12-2010, 07:08 AM
And Liberals Are Good For What?
10. Organ Donation
9. Plugging Oil Wells
8. Melting down for glue
7. Landfill
6. Burning bodies make electricity
5. Farm Fertilizer
4. Soylent Green
3. Paving Roads
2. Animal Feed
1. Target practice
cevulirn
08-12-2010, 09:07 AM
10. Organ Donation
9. Plugging Oil Wells
8. Melting down for glue
7. Landfill
6. Burning bodies make electricity
5. Farm Fertilizer
4. Soylent Green
3. Paving Roads
2. Animal Feed
1. Target practice
Nah, they don't work so well for #9.... too squishy.
ATAK, Inc.
08-12-2010, 10:05 AM
10. Organ Donation
9. Plugging Oil Wells
8. Melting down for glue
7. Landfill
6. Burning bodies make electricity
5. Farm Fertilizer
4. Soylent Green
3. Paving Roads
2. Animal Feed
1. Target practice
I got a mental image of Charleton Heston yelling out, "Soylent Green is Liberals!" lol
#3 is true, you just got to slice them real thin, there's lots of roads out there.
#1 may come true sooner than you think! lol, j/k
American Rage
08-12-2010, 11:14 AM
When oil runs out, I plan on harnessing at least a dozen libs to the bumper of my car.
Rage
ATAK, Inc.
08-12-2010, 11:22 AM
When oil runs out, I plan on harnessing at least a dozen libs to the bumper of my car.
Rage
You would need 20 to get you that "twenty Mule" team!
fingolfen
08-12-2010, 12:19 PM
In short, the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result.
ATAK, Inc.
08-12-2010, 03:03 PM
In short, the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result.
Glad to see you back! Still doing your blog?
And yes, that is the status quo for the liberals. It may take a very long time to really help the listed cities, but can be done.
Right now, we need to make sure to get our country back on track before it becomes too late!
Vote early and vote often...
... Oops, that is the Acorn mantra! lol Just vote once, but get out and vote!
When you get your business up and running I'm curious about how hard you are willing to work when a full third of your income is taxed away (happens around $65K a year income). How hard will you work when half is taxed away? How about two thirds? Next question- Let's ay you have spent 10 years building your business (and really, you could make it happen in Ketchum and fast), you've saved a couple of hundred thousand and I am out of work in Hailey. I don't think it's fair and help push a new tax bracket through which will take a chunk of your savings and make you pay and extra $7500 a year. With your financial adviser telling you how to avoid the new tax would you really just tell him to pay the new tax? Or are you going to shelter the hell out of your assets and wait until there's a more investment-friendly environment?
Well, I think we should get rid of the corporate tax. I don't see any reason business should be taxed, just personal income. If a small-business owner wants to pour all his profits back into his business, more power to him. It's only when he chooses to horde the money for himself that I think the government should step in and progressively tax that wealth.
It is YOUR money, LAGC, you've earned it by building your business. What will YOU do with it? You gonna let someone else help themselves to it with no argument?
Well, it depends. Like I said, if I ever were to ever start a business, it would be a co-op, so all profits would be shared between the employees. There would be more of an incentive to invest back in the business because it would mean more money for us. But yeah, I have no problem paying my fair share of taxes on my income. It's the only fair way to pay for government services.
You bring lazy and stupid to a whole new level....
If being rich is so damned easy, then why are you whining about being poor?
Go get rich yourself then.
What makes you so sure I want to be? Not if it takes stepping on others to get ahead, which is what is usually boils down to. I'd just be happy being comfortably middle-class, thank you very much.
Oh wait...you can't.
Because it actually requires work after all doesn't it dumb ass?
Usually its just a matter of having the right idea at the right time, and taking advantage of a gap in the market, where there's a demand for a certain product or service. Most of the work usually comes from hiring people UNDER you, and getting them to do all the heavy-lifting, while the one with the idea sits back and rakes in the dough. There's nothing wrong people being rewarded for having good ideas, except that over time it creates a disparity of wealth between haves and have-nots. The middle-class shrinks and we see many more poor people with just a few rich people lording over them. There are only two solutions: redistribute the wealth, or see a revolution happen. Even most rich people prefer the first option.
Mark Ducati
08-12-2010, 06:55 PM
When you get your business up and running I'm curious about how hard you are willing to work when a full third of your income is taxed away (happens around $65K a year income).
Dont even get me started!!!!! :teufel::dedhorse::ireful3::censored:
As a small business owner, by the time I pay my own personal taxes and the corporate taxes not to mention matching FICA/Medicare/Social Security/Unemployment, etc... etc... etc...
I'm paying over 50% to the government!
THEN, I get to pay the light bill, rent, supply bill, etc...
Out of a business doing about a million dollars a year... I estimate that I take home perhaps 18-20% if I'm lucky!
FU obongo! And the camel you rode in on!
The only silver lining in all of this is that I have a very creative accountant who writes off just about everything I can through the business... I pay him a few thousand a year, and he's worth every stinkin' penny!
Airdale
08-12-2010, 08:01 PM
There's a Liberal Paradise very close to where I live. Everyone there is treated the same, no matter what their skin color or religion is. Everyone makes the same amount of money, so no one feels inferior by having less. Everyone there gets free health care, paid for by the government, and its really good care too. Everyone there gets all the TV, or exercise they want. And everyone there gets free counselors to talk to if they are going through a little rough time in their life. Their feelings are important.
Its called the County Jail.
There's a Liberal Paradise very close to where I live. Everyone there is treated the same, no matter what their skin color or religion is. Everyone makes the same amount of money, so no one feels inferior by having less. Everyone there gets free health care, paid for by the government, and its really good care too. Everyone there gets all the TV, or exercise they want. And everyone there gets free counselors to talk to if they are going through a little rough time in their life. Their feelings are important.
Its called the County Jail.
When I was serving my 6-month "Rider" (paramilitary boot-camp) for my first felony, one of the guards looked up my case-file which was flagged that I was a potential gang-member due to my Pre-Sentence Investigation report. Gang-affiliation: Marxist. They asked me point-blank if this (prison boot-camp) wasn't the Communist utopia I had always dreamed of. After all, everyone was equal, were they not? I pointed out that some animals (guards) were more equal than others. And its not like we had freedom to travel to other "communes" or enjoy all the finer material things that a free society got to enjoy.
By the end of the discussion I had them wondering why the warden got paid so much more than them when they were the ones doing all the real work. I think I made an impact.
Goodman
08-13-2010, 01:46 AM
Well, it depends. Like I said, if I ever were to ever start a business, it would be a co-op, so all profits would be shared between the employees.
Okay, so no employees per se, really an owner's group. So when I decide you are making too much money all your partners and you will gladly fork over an extra 12% a year of what you all work 60 hour weeks to earn?
There would be more of an incentive to invest back in the business because it would mean more money for us. But your accountant has advised you and your partners of a way to make 22% overseas in sheltered accounts while I have helped pass a 12% annual increase in your tax liability. Why in God's name would you take a 34% hit on return on investment by keeping your money where it is? Will your partners agree to that? And how will your shelter from my tax increase affect federal receipts?
But yeah, I have no problem paying my fair share of taxes on my income. It's the only fair way to pay for government services.So after working the 60 hour weeks that many small business owners take for granted you and all your partners will just lovingly hand over still more of your hard earned cash 'coz it's good for the
down-and-out like me who simply resent you for your wealth? I mean, we all KNOW you made your money by exploiting people like us. That co-op bullshit doesn't fool us.
Oswald Bastable
08-13-2010, 02:22 AM
I'd just be happy being comfortably middle-class, thank you very much.
But you're not willing to work hard enough to get there, are you. You just want that lifestyle handed to you from the sweat of those who worked hard enough to eclipse that level of comfort.
Usually its just a matter of having the right idea at the right time, and taking advantage of a gap in the market, where there's a demand for a certain product or service. Most of the work usually comes from hiring people UNDER you, and getting them to do all the heavy-lifting, while the one with the idea sits back and rakes in the dough. There's nothing wrong people being rewarded for having good ideas, except that over time it creates a disparity of wealth between haves and have-nots. The middle-class shrinks and we see many more poor people with just a few rich people lording over them. There are only two solutions: redistribute the wealth, or see a revolution happen. Even most rich people prefer the first option.
Yup, that's all it takes, just a good idea at the right time. That whole part that comes between that and wealth (the investment of time, the money involved to start the business, rent or build the structure required to house it, buy the equipment to run it, hire and pay the staff to get it started...up...running, the lean years of losses until the idea catches on/finds its market) all of that just falls out of the trees and into the entrepreneur's hands, doesn't it? And God forbid they expect some kind of investment return on all that sweat and equity, because along comes a leech like LAGC who would prefer to live a middle class lifestyle without doing anything to achieve it.
Okay, so no employees per se, really an owner's group. So when I decide you are making too much money all your partners and you will gladly fork over an extra 12% a year of what you all work 60 hour weeks to earn?
If we were raking in that much money (after business expenses) to be in that high of a tax bracket to actually be taxed MORE, I wouldn't have a problem with it. As much as we like to bash Obama on here, fact is that if his tax plan goes into effect next year, 2011 income taxes will be slightly reduced for everyone making less than $250,000. It's only the filthy rich who are going to be paying more. If I was making that much money I'd have no problem with an extra 12% being taxed away, to help pay down the national debt. Better 12% now than 30% ten years down the road, with the way interest is compounding! But 12% would be a drop in the bucket compared to how much I'd still have left over. Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society. If you don't like taxes, you could always move to a tax-haven paradise like Somalia where they have a very low tax burden and shit to show for it.
But your accountant has advised you and your partners of a way to make 22% overseas in sheltered accounts while I have helped pass a 12% annual increase in your tax liability. Why in God's name would you take a 34% hit on return on investment by keeping your money where it is? Will your partners agree to that? And how will your shelter from my tax increase affect federal receipts?So after working the 60 hour weeks that many small business owners take for granted you and all your partners will just lovingly hand over still more of your hard earned cash 'coz it's good for the down-and-out like me who simply resent you for your wealth? I mean, we all KNOW you made your money by exploiting people like us. That co-op bullshit doesn't fool us.
Well, for one thing, I wouldn't invest in overseas companies. Call me old fashioned, but if I were to run a business, it would be an American venture, with American employees. Sure I could see some consulting work being done by foreign contacts, but I'd try to keep the outsourcing to a minimum. Chances are if I ran a business, it would involve a service and not product anyway, so we'd be dealing with fellow Americans. I wouldn't settle for any of that Indian call-center bullshit either. I think that hurts more than helps business when some foreigner who can barely speak English answers the phone and tries to help you with your problem. So any income raised would be on American soil, therefore I'd have no problem with it being subjected to American tax code.
Maybe if we penalized some of these companies that did move jobs overseas, and taxed some of that capital flight, we could dissuade companies from relocating in the first place.
In most cases, the money that comes from the rich isn't "hard-earned" at all. It was built up by extracting profits from many, many workers below them. All most rich people have to do is sit back and watch their stock dividends pour in. That's the extent of their "work." If they are going to be stingy and not spend their money, why shouldn't some of it be taxed away and given to the rest of us so we can spend it and stimulate the economy?
I guess they found their wealth? Lefty, you sound like a welfare witch explaining the world owes you a living, how someone else should support you in the style you deserve.
Goodman
08-13-2010, 10:42 AM
income taxes will be slightly reduced for everyone making less than $250,000That's already proven to be false. And remember that your business taxes will increases too.
It's only the filthy rich who are going to be paying more Here- have another glass of Kool-aid.
Taxes are the price we pay to live in a civilized society.
So you don't mind having the rules you based your success upon being arbitrarily changed at my will- for little other reason than that I know you are a thieving liar? My distrust of you allows me to pull the rug out from under your business model and you won't fight it? (I'm not buying it!)
Let me get this straight- You:
Work 60 hour weeks for 5 years
often made (hourly) less than your 'employees'
are not subject to minimum wage laws
have no workers comp coverage
earn no unemployment benefits
put your family's financial security on the line
work on average at least 3 hours every day at home as well as full time in the field
That's 3 hours 7 days a week, remember
Rarely if ever take a vacation or a full day off
Have massive personal liability every single day (Corp and LLC don't cover your ass as well as you think)
I've got to say you are either a masochist or just a glutton for punishment. Where is your 'personal' life in all this??
Really now, think all this through and put yourself in an average entrepreneur's shoes (as illustrated above).
After all the sacrifice you've already gone through you would actually be willing to wake up one day and agree to have your net profit (almost certainly under 10%) reduced by another $1.20 on every $10? You DO realize there is a recession and the books look grim- you may well show a loss this year, but the Christmas season will tell the story (damn Christians!).
All because I personally know you just sit at home:
sit(ting) back and watch(ing) (your) stock dividends pour innot working- but exploiting the workers? You will more or less hand over the fruits of your labor to the GOV? Damn, Lefty! You are one noble, selfless son-of-a-bitch!
to actually be taxed MORE, I wouldn't have a problem with itLOL. You're delusional. You earned it (that entails work and sacrifice). You WILL be pissed when I come around with my hand out.
Maybe if we penalized some of these companies that did move jobs overseas, and taxed some of that capital flight, we could dissuade companies from relocating in the first place. Punishing wage and tax rates are exactly why they are relocating. You propose to exacerbate the problem. Eventually all capital WILL leave the market. Also, capital flight is already taxed. Does that tell you something about how bad the business climate is getting in this country?
Goodman
08-13-2010, 10:52 AM
Mark, Mark, Mark!
When are you going to realize your hygenists work harder than you do and probably know more about how to run the office than you do? Obviously THEY deserve to make at least as much as YOU do! If you just paid better wages the economy would grow and so would your business income!
heh.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
fingolfen
08-13-2010, 12:31 PM
Glad to see you back! Still doing your blog?
And yes, that is the status quo for the liberals. It may take a very long time to really help the listed cities, but can be done.
Right now, we need to make sure to get our country back on track before it becomes too late!
Vote early and vote often...
... Oops, that is the Acorn mantra! lol Just vote once, but get out and vote!
Howdy! Good to see the site back up...
Blog is on hiatus - too busy with other projects at this point... :(
Mark Ducati
08-13-2010, 12:37 PM
Mark, Mark, Mark!
When are you going to realize your hygenists work harder than you do and probably know more about how to run the office than you do? Obviously THEY deserve to make at least as much as YOU do! If you just paid better wages the economy would grow and so would your business income!
heh.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
Ha!
My hygienest DOES make more money than me! She's my wife, and she does run the office. I haven't seen a paycheck the last 8 years, I'm just glad she shares her house and toys with me :)
Blacksmith
08-13-2010, 01:24 PM
By the end of the discussion I had them wondering why the warden got paid so much more than them when they were the ones doing all the real work. I think I made an impact.
LMAO
Sure you did. :crazy:
I imagine they where thinking. “they get dumber every day”
Goodman
08-13-2010, 01:52 PM
Ha!
My hygienest DOES make more money than me!
LOL- good for her!
Well hell, that illustrates part of the point if Lefty cares to listen. Employee payroll is almost always far more than what the 'owner' pockets. Trouble is each individual employee often feels entitled to an equal cut with the owner.
Seriously though, from some of what I've seen you are doing very well if you can net 20%. Good job!
ATAK, Inc.
08-13-2010, 06:50 PM
Ha!
My hygienest DOES make more money than me! She's my wife, and she does run the office. I haven't seen a paycheck the last 8 years, I'm just glad she shares her house and toys with me :)
That statement just begs for the question... What kind of toys;) Kinky!!! lol:lmao3::roflwithfeetcv2::laughingtohard::bounci ng-boobies:
jeremiah johnson
08-20-2010, 11:57 AM
It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats yet they are still POOR!"
That is exactly the problem, they are poor and wish to remain that way because they
have a free ride. You think Tyrone is worried about unemployment when he drives
in his 1998 cadillac smokin dope and knockin up natisha, larisha, qwadeesha, etc.?
Fuck no! He be getting paid to drive around all day in his caddy to do that. While
other normal people are hard at work. And when natisha, larisha, qwadeesha do get
knocked up, well they are rewarded with more money. And tyrone isn't responsible
for anything. And these fuckers want reparations?
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