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El Jefe
10-18-2011, 03:06 PM
I've seen this before, I'm sure some of you have too. But it should be watched often. Not all of America is lost, not yet anyway.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQf_QfitmKE

O.S.O.K.
10-18-2011, 04:48 PM
Excellent vid - I have not seen this before. I am well aware of the the communist agenda and that they have been mores successful than most think.

We need to begin to restore our morality, family and patriotism - long term.

I think this is underway - the Tea Party is essentially, a vehicle for restoration of our country. That is why I have been active in it and keeping myself informed.

Charliebravo
10-18-2011, 04:58 PM
I think that most of our problems stem from the coordinated assault on the church. When the churches were in charge of medicine, education, and charity, we had accountability and genuine community. Now, everyone just sits in their houses watching internet porn while waiting for their next benefit check to arrive in the mailbox.

American Rage
10-18-2011, 07:49 PM
I've known about their goals since I was a kid, and I'm no spring chicken.


Got my dad's copy of "A Study of Communism" by J. Edgar Hoover to this day.

JTHunter
10-19-2011, 11:11 PM
This was posted back in July at
http://www.gunsnet.net/showthread.php?11390-The-Agenda-Grinding-America-Down

Gun Toting Lefty
10-20-2011, 02:05 AM
I think that most of our problems stem from the coordinated assault on the church. When the churches were in charge of medicine, education, and charity, we had accountability and genuine community. Now, everyone just sits in their houses watching internet porn while waiting for their next benefit check to arrive in the mailbox.

in case you didn't notice amarica is ment to be a secular nation. any legislative action to "restore the church", as i assume you would put it, would be unconsitutional and be reppealed by any court with i's head screwed on straight.

raxar
10-20-2011, 05:18 AM
in case you didn't notice amarica is ment to be a secular nation. any legislative action to "restore the church", as i assume you would put it, would be unconsitutional and be reppealed by any court with i's head screwed on straight.

Do you suppose that back when he was talking about it was the gubmit that propped the church up?

LAGC
10-20-2011, 05:32 AM
Now, everyone just sits in their houses watching internet porn while waiting for their next benefit check to arrive in the mailbox.

Yep. Porn is probably the biggest factor behind Christianity being weakened in this country.

The Communist Agenda is almost complete! :firedevil:

Gun Toting Lefty
10-20-2011, 08:10 AM
Do you suppose that back when he was talking about it was the gubmit that propped the church up?

no. but the church could only return to it's former glory with the support of government.

Goodman
10-20-2011, 09:22 AM
in case you didn't notice amarica is ment to be a secular nation. any legislative action to "restore the church", as i assume you would put it, would be unconsitutional and be reppealed by any court with i's head screwed on straight.
Goal # 28, "The Naked Communist", 1958


Yep. Porn is probably the biggest factor behind Christianity being weakened in this country.

The Communist Agenda is almost complete!
Goal # 25, "The Naked Communist', 1958

American Rage
10-20-2011, 09:35 AM
in case you didn't notice amarica is ment to be a secular nation. any legislative action to "restore the church", as i assume you would put it, would be unconsitutional and be reppealed by any court with i's head screwed on straight.

You're a damned liar.

I've covered this subject in the past. Therefore, I will not cover it again. However, to anyone who wishes to study the subject, it is obvious that the left has twisted the Constitution and indoctrinated the world with thier BS.

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 09:42 AM
......but the church could only return to it's former glory with the support of government.

Yup.....and that is most unlikely to happen.


Wart

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 09:46 AM
Yep. Porn is probably the biggest factor behind Christianity being weakened in this country.



Stastically there is a possibility more Bpatist watch porn than do Methodists.



Wart

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 09:49 AM
We need to begin to restore our morality, family and patriotism - long term.



Just not going to happen.


Wart

American Rage
10-20-2011, 09:59 AM
Just not going to happen.


Wart

Not as long as the communist are running our education system

El Jefe
10-20-2011, 10:04 AM
Just not going to happen.


Wart

I wouldn't be so sure of that. After the implosion I think a great many people will look for something more meaningful that arrogance, selfishness and debauchery.

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 10:08 AM
Not as long as the communist are running our education system

No AR, it is the fault of we-the-people. Everything that is wrong with our country today WE allowed to happen. In most cases we elected - and re-elected - those who passed the legislation.

We can trot out the boogey men....liberals, progressives, communists, dimocrats, wall street criminals.........but the enemy is us.



Wart

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 10:12 AM
I wouldn't be so sure of that. After the implosion I think a great many people will look for something more meaningful that arrogance, selfishness and debauchery.

If there is a full scale internal war here in the US you will be correct. If not the populace will continue to move away from religion.


Wart

American Rage
10-20-2011, 10:19 AM
No AR, it is the fault of we-the-people. Everything that is wrong with our country today WE allowed to happen. In most cases we elected - and re-elected - those who passed the legislation.

We can trot out the boogey men....liberals, progressives, communists, dimocrats, wall street criminals.........but the enemy is us.



Wart

When your teachers and professors constantly lie and attack your foundations it has an effect. Look at college campuses today. Where have all the conservatives gone? I'll tell you, they've been forced out and demonized at every possible moment and turn. What David Demming (sp?) did at OU is a perfect example.

Demming was an undergrad assistant in the geology dept., IIRC, who responded to an editorial in the student newspaper declaring "guns are bad and evil." In his retort, he humorously compared the danger of a diseased vagina to the danger of personal weapons/guns.

Talk about the shit hitting the fan! David Boren did everything he could do to get the guy to quit the program, including having Mr. Demmings office moved into a basement bathroom!

So much for freedom of speach at OU.

Meanwhile, Boren covered up the female soccer coach scandal, in which a lesbian soccer coach suggested that all the females on the team should perform lesbian acts on one another as a means to draw the team closer.

Likewise, sex for grades at OUs law school was also covered up. The male prof was sent on sabatical where, as a member of the ACLU, he was allowed to make lots of money suing America. Meanwhile the female involved was allowed to keep her grades, teaching her that it's okay to sleep with whomever to get what she and by proxy her clients needed.

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 10:33 AM
When your teachers and professors constantly lie and attack your foundations it has an effect. Look at college campuses today. Where have all the conservatives gone? I'll tell you, they've been forced out and demonized at every possible moment and turn. What David Demming (sp?) did at OU is a perfect example.

Demming was an undergrad assistant in the geology dept., IIRC, who responded to an editorial in the student newspaper declaring "guns are bad and evil." In his retort, he humorously compared the danger of a diseased vagina to the danger of personal weapons/guns.

Talk about the shit hitting the fan! David Boren did everything he could do to get the guy to quit the program, including having Mr. Demmings office moved into a basement bathroom!

So much for freedom of speach at OU.

Meanwhile, Boren covered up the female soccer coach scandal, in which a lesbian soccer coach suggested that all the females on the team should perform lesbian acts on one another as a means to draw the team closer.

Likewise, sex for grades at OUs law school was also covered up. The male prof was sent on sabatical where, as a member of the ACLU, he was allowed to make lots of money suing America. Meanwhile the female involved was allowed to keep her grades, teaching her that it's okay to sleep with whomever to get what she and by proxy her clients needed.

And WE allow this schitt to happen. Just stay with the federal .gov for a moment as that's where wholesale destruction is planned and voted into law. WE elect these people and REELECT more than 90%.

I know this sucks but there it is. Ugly as schiit but still there it is.

Look at your neighbors, look in the mirror there is the cause.


Wart

El Jefe
10-20-2011, 10:48 AM
If there is a full scale internal war here in the US you will be correct. If not the populace will continue to move away from religion.


Wart

Nah, I don't think it will take "a full scale internal war" for it to happen, nor do I think such a conflict will occur. No, we can suffer lots without that happening, once the secular/consumer lifestyle fails and shows itself to be hollow and crass, people will look for something more, something they can believe in together. Genuine, Christian fellowship, has always held us together during difficult times. And it will again.

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 10:55 AM
Nah, I don't think it will take "a full scale internal war" for it to happen, nor do I think such a conflict will occur. No, we can suffer lots without that happening, once the secular/consumer lifestyle fails and shows itself to be hollow and crass, people will look for something more, something they can believe in together. Genuine, Christian fellowship, has always held us together during difficult times. And it will again.


Genuine, Christian fellowship, has always held us together during difficult times. And it will again


Guess the Jews and the Buddhists gonna fly apart huh !



Wart

El Jefe
10-20-2011, 10:59 AM
Guess the Jews and the Buddhists gonna fly apart huh !



Wart

Dunno, they can do as they wish. I was talking about the bulk of the population, and I'm pretty sure most wouldn't look to the two religions you reference.

Gun Toting Lefty
10-20-2011, 12:11 PM
You're a damned liar.

I've covered this subject in the past.

well i wasn't around when you did. please enlighten me.

Gun Toting Lefty
10-20-2011, 12:20 PM
And WE allow this schitt to happen. Just stay with the federal .gov for a moment as that's where wholesale destruction is planned and voted into law. WE elect these people and REELECT more than 90%.

I know this sucks but there it is. Ugly as schiit but still there it is.

Look at your neighbors, look in the mirror there is the cause.


Wart

c'mon. lesbian football teems and sex for grades isn't THAT bad. there are much worse things tha could be happening.

El Jefe
10-20-2011, 12:22 PM
c'mon. lesbian football teems and sex for grades isn't THAT bad. there are much worse things tha could be happening.

Learn to spell, then you can work on being relevant.

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 12:31 PM
Dunno, they can do as they wish. I was talking about the bulk of the population, and I'm pretty sure most wouldn't look to the two religions you reference.

Only jokin wit ya.



Wart

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 12:33 PM
c'mon. lesbian football teems and sex for grades isn't THAT bad. there are much worse things tha could be happening.

True. Actually I'm pro "sex for grades" !


Wart

Gun Toting Lefty
10-20-2011, 12:47 PM
Learn to spell, then you can work on being relevant.

did you reed my introduction page when i first joined this site?

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 12:52 PM
did you reed my introduction page when i first joined this site?

Certainly I reeded it.



Wart

El Jefe
10-20-2011, 12:59 PM
Only jokin wit ya.



Wart

Cool, just stating MNSHO. :)

El Jefe
10-20-2011, 01:01 PM
did you reed my introduction page when i first joined this site?

No, I guess I missed it. I'm sure it was scintillating. ;)

American Rage
10-20-2011, 01:09 PM
well i wasn't around when you did. please enlighten me.

Your so smart, and I'm so ignorant, why don't you enlighten me instead?

Gun Toting Lefty
10-20-2011, 02:54 PM
Your so smart, and I'm so ignorant, why don't you enlighten me instead?

i can try. firstly the declaration of independance intentionaly omits any reference to the god of the bible. the closest it came was the use of "endowed by their createor" was only used beceause it was the most powerful way to express the founders intentions but is still secular in nature. had the founders intended the message to be expressly christian they would have used "endowed by God". i could go on but it's bed time in my part of the world so i will continue tomorrow.

raxar
10-20-2011, 07:05 PM
no. but the church could only return to it's former glory with the support of government.


:roflwithfeetcv2:

El Jefe
10-20-2011, 07:25 PM
i can try. firstly the declaration of independance intentionaly omits any reference to the god of the bible. the closest it came was the use of "endowed by their createor" was only used beceause it was the most powerful way to express the founders intentions but is still secular in nature. had the founders intended the message to be expressly christian they would have used "endowed by God". i could go on but it's bed time in my part of the world so i will continue tomorrow.


And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.


the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires


by their Creator

Clearly the founders were speaking of God, and clearly the founders were Christian. To argue otherwise is absurd.

Goodman
10-20-2011, 09:54 PM
Clearly the founders were speaking of God, and clearly the founders were Christian. To argue otherwise is absurd.

Yeah but it supports the case for The Agenda.

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 10:53 PM
i can try. firstly the declaration of independance intentionaly omits any reference to the god of the bible. the closest it came was the use of "endowed by their createor" was only used beceause it was the most powerful way to express the founders intentions but is still secular in nature. had the founders intended the message to be expressly christian they would have used "endowed by God". i could go on but it's bed time in my part of the world so i will continue tomorrow.

Much Masonic influence in the writing of the Constituation. The Masons require only belief in a higher power. Most likely the framers of the Constitution were emulating the Masonic requirement.


Wart

gpwasr10
10-20-2011, 11:22 PM
These pinkos need to be rounded up... ASAP.

l921428x
10-20-2011, 11:39 PM
IMO the Constitution was written for the common man. To move that forward 200 yrs and try and decide what they meant is not honest.
Just read the words and you know what they are saying and inferring. It is about the relevence of God and that men should be free to act on such.
There is no SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Because in the constitution it already says the gov cannot sponser religion. I think the writings give you freedom of religion not freedom from religion. As so many seem to want.

Gun Toting Lefty
10-21-2011, 02:29 AM
Clearly the founders were speaking of God, and clearly the founders were Christian. To argue otherwise is absurd.

can you give the sources for you quotes please?

l921428x
10-21-2011, 02:58 AM
can you give the sources for you quotes please?

Did not see a quote. But with all intellectual honesty you know he is 75% or more right. You can argue any dirrection you want but just because it does not say God does not mean the words are different. Creator can not mean much more than that.

LAGC
10-21-2011, 05:23 AM
Stastically there is a possibility more Bpatist watch porn than do Methodists.

I've seen studies that the biggest consumers of Internet porn are concentrated in the state of Utah.

No wonder there's so much apostasy in Mormon ranks! :)

El Jefe
10-21-2011, 10:17 AM
can you give the sources for you quotes please?

The Declaration of Independence.

El Jefe
10-21-2011, 10:19 AM
I've seen studies that the biggest consumers of Internet porn are concentrated in the state of Utah.

No wonder there's so much apostasy in Mormon ranks! :)

Prove it, or STFU! As a known liar, your word alone doesn't cut it.

O.S.O.K.
10-21-2011, 10:29 AM
All of the mass genocide in the world in the last 100 years has been at the hands of communists and socialists after they gain control of government. Over a hundered million souls have fallen victim to them...

Name one Constitutional Republic that has conducted such evil.

That alone is why no one should ever be fooled by the communist's lies and deceit ever again.

But there are a fresh crop of fools born every gereration and the communists greedily cultivate them every chance they get.

This is exactly what we see with LAGC and the OWS crowd.

Useful idiots. The very phrase used by the communists and yet, those referred to remain committed to them.

It really is sick.

LAGC
10-21-2011, 02:28 PM
Prove it, or STFU! As a known liar, your word alone doesn't cut it.

Here you go:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/160566/utah_online_porn_capital_of_america.html

Its not just Utah, but overly-religious, overly-repressive conservative states lead the pack in online porn consumers.

Warthogg
10-21-2011, 02:36 PM
Name one Constitutional Republic that has conducted such evil.



There are none as the .govs of democracies cannot take the casualties. We have only to look to WW II. The dictatorships - Germany and the Soviet Union* - bore the brunt of casualties.



Wart


*Strictly from memory....I believe the USSR lost more killed at Stalingrad than the US lost in the entire war.

El Jefe
10-21-2011, 02:38 PM
Here you go:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/160566/utah_online_porn_capital_of_america.html

Its not just Utah, but overly-religious, overly-repressive conservative states lead the pack in online porn consumers.

I'm not buying it, you can't tell me the relatively small population of Utah out does the population of California. This dude from Harvard has an agenda, and I'd bet under scrutiny his supposed research would be found wanting.

Warthogg
10-21-2011, 02:44 PM
Creator can not mean much more than that.

Nor less. And conforms to Masonic views which would have been important to many of the framers of our constitution.



Wart

LAGC
10-21-2011, 02:49 PM
I'm not buying it, you can't tell me the relatively small population of Utah out does the population of California. This dude from Harvard has an agenda, and I'd bet under scrutiny his supposed research would be found wanting.

Well no, I'm sure there are more porn consumers in California just because its so much more populous, but his figures are based on PER CAPITA ratings, not absolute numbers.

O.S.O.K.
10-21-2011, 03:13 PM
There are none as the .govs of democracies cannot take the casualties. We have only to look to WW II. The dictatorships - Germany and the Soviet Union* - bore the brunt of casualties.



Wart


*Strictly from memory....I believe the USSR lost more killed at Stalingrad than the US lost in the entire war.

True, but I was thinking more of non-wartime genocide. Stalin killed like 40 million. Mao 30 million, Pol Pot, Hitler of course, etc.

But what you say is true regardless - an open society can not bear such things.

Only as practiced communism allows for such evil.

So, disucssion of on-line porn has no bearing on such. Who gives a rat's ass about that?

How does anything compare to 100+ million murders?

LAGC, how can you call yourself a communist? You are defacto supporting those murders. You are an enabler of such evil.

And that's not a funny thing. It means that you are an asshat of the highest order.

Gun Toting Lefty
10-21-2011, 03:23 PM
Name one Constitutional Republic that has conducted such evil.

the United States.

LAGC
10-21-2011, 03:25 PM
LAGC, how can you call yourself a communist? You are defacto supporting those murders. You are an enabler of such evil.

Oh believe me, I harbor no love for the Communist Party, even though I was once a member back in my more youthful and idealistic days...

I've definitely come around to George Orwell's point-of-view, in that what we need is DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM. A vibrant democracy with a strong constitution protecting minority rights, to prevent the worst excesses of totalitarian dictatorships from taking over. I look to Northern Europe for inspiration, not China or North Korea.

O.S.O.K.
10-21-2011, 04:04 PM
the United States.

Cite your example. And it better not be saving the UK's ass during WWII - that's not genocide.

El Jefe
10-21-2011, 04:18 PM
the United States.

A better example would be the British Empire.

tank_monkey
10-21-2011, 06:05 PM
the United States.

A jeez. Another America hater from across the pond. I'd make a blanket statement about how bad the UK is (but I'm not an idiot like Bum-whisperer). I have friends in the UK who think like I do, so I just shake my head and feel sorry for the folks who have to live with the likes of you.

BTW, my buddies are all former SAS and we've had lots of very informative talks. None of them are "America haters". In fact they are nearly all "Left wingers in britain" haters :D

Warthogg
10-21-2011, 06:26 PM
the United States.

You just may be right......and are certainly partly right depending on the tribe.

Native Americans.


Wart

O.S.O.K.
10-21-2011, 06:48 PM
That was a war. May have been an unjust war, but it was a war.

And if you're going to play that card, you can include every civilization going back.

Seriously.

Warthogg
10-21-2011, 07:00 PM
Well we gave the Indians blankets with typhoid. That much is clear. However, the diseases came from Europe. Spain did more than their part to decimate the indigenous population where ever they went.

Shared blame.


Wart

Goodman
10-21-2011, 07:22 PM
the United States.

Source please

Gun Toting Lefty
10-22-2011, 11:45 AM
You just may be right......and are certainly partly right depending on the tribe.

Native Americans.


Wart

i was thinking of that but i said it to see how many people i could piss of.

El Jefe
10-22-2011, 11:54 AM
i was thinking of that but i said it to see how many people i could piss of.

So in other words, you're just another stupid asshole from England. I'm beginning to see a pattern with you people.

Warthogg
10-22-2011, 12:33 PM
i was thinking of that but i said it to see how many people i could piss of.

Trolling for hatred just does not advance your argument.



Wart

Gun Toting Lefty
10-22-2011, 03:00 PM
So in other words, you're just another stupid asshole from England. I'm beginning to see a pattern with you people.

well yank ripping is a traditional english pastime.

Gun Toting Lefty
10-22-2011, 03:01 PM
Trolling for hatred just does not advance your argument.

assumeing that my intention was to advance my argument.

Warthogg
10-22-2011, 03:08 PM
Originally Posted by Warthogg View Post
Trolling for hatred just does not advance your argument.



assumeing that my intention was to advance my argument.

If your intention was not to further your argument then you should not be here.


Wart

El Laton Caliente
10-22-2011, 04:01 PM
So in other words, you're just another stupid asshole from England. I'm beginning to see a pattern with you people.

Wish you guys would realize the insult is a passtime in England like the tall tale is in Texas... In their eyes you are losing the exchange because it is getting to you...

El Jefe
10-22-2011, 04:10 PM
Wish you guys would realize the insult is a passtime in England like the tall tale is in Texas... In their eyes you are losing the exchange because it is getting to you...

Shit, this fucker can't even spell. :)

El Laton Caliente
10-22-2011, 04:20 PM
So, I'm a numbers and calculations guy... I have to run spell check on about every post...

I like having a few leftists around to sharpen skills on... kinda like range practice...

Gun Toting Lefty
10-22-2011, 04:20 PM
Shit, this fucker can't even spell. :)

ahh. the wonders of state education.

O.S.O.K.
10-22-2011, 04:57 PM
There are four kinds of people in the UK -
First, there were the Scots who kept the Sabbath - and everything else they could lay their hands on.
Then there were the Welsh - who prayed on their knees and their neighbors.
Thirdly there were the Irish who never knew what they wanted - but were willing to fight for it anyway.
Lastly there were the English who considered themselves self-made men, - thus relieving the Almighty of a terrible responsibility
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