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El Jefe
10-20-2011, 12:19 PM
If you operate under the assumption that Obama want's to be re-elected, then you really have to wonder if he understands much of anything. As it stands right now, he won't win re-election, and the bad economy is reason #1 that he won't/can't. It's pretty obvious he doesn't understand the country, and he for sure doesn't understand our economy.

What else explains his idea of "a job bill"? You'd think he shove to the side, momentarily, his love of high taxes and government jobs, and do a few things that might actually help get him a second term. But no, that's obviously not the plan. No, he'd rather demonize business and cheer on the OWS freaks. And insist on more deficit spending, more government, and more of the same shit that didn't work the last time. Amazing. :losing-it:


By Peter Nicholas

October 19, 2011, 3:07 p.m.
Reporting from North Chesterfield, Va.—
Closing out his bus tour on a low-key note, President Obama made a pitch for his jobs package at a firehouse, where a subdued crowd needed a bit of prompting to applaud his proposal to boost the economy.

Obama visited Fire Station 9 to draw attention to a major piece of his $447-billion jobs package. He wants to spread $35 billion among states and cities, in part to prevent layoffs of police and firefighters, and would pay for it with a surtax on millionaires. Congress may vote on that measure as early as this week.

On Wednesday afternoon, Obama stood at a lectern against a backdrop of firefighters and offered his prescription for solving the persistent jobs crisis: "A fair shot for everybody; a fair share from everybody. That's the principle that built America."


Link:http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-ends-bus-tour-20111019,0,1982231.story

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 12:41 PM
.....he'd rather demonize business and cheer on the OWS freaks. And insist on more deficit spending, more government, and more of the same shit that didn't work the last time.


This is ALL HE KNOWS !!

I'm not joking around. Barry has never done anything. Barry spent twenty years at the Reverend Wright's Church trying to learn to be black and failed miserably. (Even Joe Biden said he was articulate and clean !)

Barry was a community organizer but I've never read anything about him winning the community organizer of the year award....or even the community organizer of the month award.

As a state senator Barry voted 'present'.

As a US senator Barry voted 'present'. and ran for president.

Barry has never done anything and, therefore, knows little.


Wart

LAGC
10-20-2011, 01:06 PM
Well, at least it looks like he's trying (with his Jobs Bill). That's more than can be said of any of the Republican candidates, who just prefer to obstruct and let things stay bad in the economy with high unemployment so as to hopefully unseat him next year.

November 2012, as always, will come down to the lesser of the evils. Obama, who at least tried, and the Republican whiners who did nothing at all.

I won't be surprised if Obama gets re-elected.

El Jefe
10-20-2011, 01:08 PM
This is ALL HE KNOWS !!

I'm not joking around. Barry has never done anything. Barry spent twenty years at the Reverend Wright's Church trying to learn to be black and failed miserably. (Even Joe Biden said he was articulate and clean !)

Barry was a community organizer but I've never read anything about him winning the community organizer of the year award....or even the community organizer of the month award.

As a state senator Barry voted 'present'.

As a US senator Barry voted 'present'. and ran for president.

Barry has never done anything and, therefore, knows little.


Wart

The thing that gets me, is you'd think someone in his inner circle could decifer the polls, or read the mood of the country, and come to the obvious conclusion that if they don't change course, stop doing more of the same, that they're going to be thrown to the curb.

They are either the dumbest bunch ever to win the WH, or they don't wish for a 2nd term.

American Rage
10-20-2011, 01:12 PM
Well, at least it looks like he's trying (with his Jobs Bill). That's more than can be said of any of the Republican candidates, who just prefer to obstruct and let things stay bad in the economy with high unemployment so as to hopefully unseat him next year.

November 2012, as always, will come down to the lesser of the evils. Obama, who at least tried, and the Republican whiners who did nothing at all.

I won't be surprised if Obama gets re-elected.

the only thing O is doing is trying to push us into communism

El Jefe
10-20-2011, 01:13 PM
Well, at least it looks like he's trying (with his Jobs Bill). That's more than can be said of any of the Republican candidates, who just prefer to obstruct and let things stay bad in the economy with high unemployment so as to hopefully unseat him next year.

November 2012, as always, will come down to the lesser of the evils. Obama, who at least tried, and the Republican whiners who did nothing at all.

I won't be surprised if Obama gets re-elected.

Dude, that's complete bullshit. You haven't noticed the direction of the numbers and obviously don't talk to enough people with the gumption to vote. His base is demoralized, his opposition is foaming at the mouth.

How is it you blame the Republicans for not doing something at the moment? Barry and the Dems control the Senate and the WH. The Repubs have held the house less than a year. Everything they've attempted dies in the Senate.

El Jefe
10-20-2011, 01:14 PM
Well, at least it looks like he's trying (with his Jobs Bill). That's more than can be said of any of the Republican candidates, who just prefer to obstruct and let things stay bad in the economy with high unemployment so as to hopefully unseat him next year.

November 2012, as always, will come down to the lesser of the evils. Obama, who at least tried, and the Republican whiners who did nothing at all.

I won't be surprised if Obama gets re-elected.

Also, explain for me, what is in this jobs bill that will help the economy??????????

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 01:14 PM
I won't be surprised if Obama gets re-elected.

Nor will I. This is basically the same electorate who voted the fool in office before.


Wart

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 01:18 PM
The thing that gets me, is you'd think someone in his inner circle could decifer the polls, or read the mood of the country, and come to the obvious conclusion that if they don't change course, stop doing more of the same, that they're going to be thrown to the curb.

They are either the dumbest bunch ever to win the WH, or they don't wish for a 2nd term.

Barry has surrounded itself with people who have also done nothing. Mostly academics. These people aren't exactly dumb but ignorant.

Oh they can read the polls they simply cannot move away from their ideology.


Wart

El Jefe
10-20-2011, 01:59 PM
Well, at least it looks like he's trying (with his Jobs Bill). That's more than can be said of any of the Republican candidates, who just prefer to obstruct and let things stay bad in the economy with high unemployment so as to hopefully unseat him next year.

November 2012, as always, will come down to the lesser of the evils. Obama, who at least tried, and the Republican whiners who did nothing at all.

I won't be surprised if Obama gets re-elected.

I'm waiting on your answer, son. Much as others are waiting on your answers in other threads. WTF?

O.S.O.K.
10-20-2011, 02:05 PM
If you want some kind of idea as to what goes on inside obummer's brain, just look at LAGC.

Would you be surprised if it was LAGC doing the same stupid things over and over? No?

Well, that's obummer - he has a one-track mind - communism is good... must follow cloward piven....

El Laton Caliente
10-20-2011, 04:39 PM
Obummer has been a one trick dog all his life. He has skated through life using his "blackness" and "coolness" to get what he wanted from those that had. He has done this since school days in Hawaii. He did it in collage and in law school. He has never built a business nor run one. He has relied on others largeness and his own "slick con" narcissistic personality all his life. Anytime he really had to perform (collage lecturer) he failed. His successes were giving away money earned by others or extorting money from successful businesses.

He has no concept of what private enterprise is about.

tank_monkey
10-20-2011, 05:11 PM
If you want some kind of idea as to what goes on inside obummer's brain, just look at LAGC.

Would you be surprised if it was LAGC doing the same stupid things over and over? No?

Well, that's obummer - he has a one-track mind - communism is good... must follow cloward piven....

It's not like they're NOT CLEVER. They are very clever. But they're also intellectually dishonest. I don't think they don't understand when we point out the flaws in their arguments. They know what the flaws are. They don't care. They DO however, skillfully divert the question or distort people's responses. That's what left wingers do.

O.S.O.K.
10-20-2011, 05:43 PM
Too many positive adjectives used there in that last post... IMHO

alismith
10-20-2011, 06:36 PM
The first hint that he had no firm grasp on reality was when he selected Biden as VP. It only got worse from that point on.

El Jefe
10-20-2011, 06:56 PM
The first hint that he had no firm grasp on reality was when he selected Biden as VP. It only got worse from that point on.

That's a good point. It made no freaking sense to select Biden, unless anyone with anything going on would have made Barry nervous.

Schuetzenman
10-20-2011, 07:38 PM
The thing that gets me, is you'd think someone in his inner circle could decifer the polls, or read the mood of the country, and come to the obvious conclusion that if they don't change course, stop doing more of the same, that they're going to be thrown to the curb.

They are either the dumbest bunch ever to win the WH, or they don't wish for a 2nd term.

I'm sure he's been given plenty of good advise, only to ignore it. He is an Ideologue, a Socialist tettering on Communist and he thinks he's dead right and everybody else is wrong. Which also means he is arrogant beyond anyone that has ever been in that office before. In the end this is all GOOD as it IS going to assure us of only one 4 year plague of Obama. Soon, soon it will all be over and some Republican candidate will be in office. I just hope it's anybody but Romney the Rino.

raxar
10-20-2011, 07:39 PM
The first hint that he had no firm grasp on reality was when he selected Biden as VP. It only got worse from that point on.

Because he didn't want to be assassinated, Biden was an insurance policy.

El Laton Caliente
10-20-2011, 08:06 PM
Because he didn't want to be assassinated, Biden was an insurance policy.
When he took office the line of succession was Biden, Pelosi, Hilery... Nobody would have dared!

raxar
10-20-2011, 08:14 PM
When he took office the line of succession was Biden, Pelosi, Hilery... Nobody would have dared!

crazy like a fox

btcave
10-20-2011, 08:22 PM
Maybe they see whats coming. Maybe the Dems really don't want to be in control when the system comes crashing down. Maybe the want to let the republicans take 2012, senate, house and presidency. Then hang the crash around the republicans necks.

Naw. They're too blinded by their desire for power to see what's coming. They are true believers blinded by their faith. The republicans not much better these days. Neither can think outside of their dogmatic faiths... outside the box.

l921428x
10-20-2011, 10:29 PM
I'm waiting on your answer, son. Much as others are waiting on your answers in other threads. WTF?


Ahhh me too.

l921428x
10-20-2011, 10:30 PM
Of which dogmatic faiths do you speak?

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 10:36 PM
The first hint that he had no firm grasp on reality was when he selected Biden as VP. It only got worse from that point on.

I don't believe Barry's handlers had much choice. The VP had to be weak as Barry was so weak. Biden was all of that and available.



Wart

Warthogg
10-20-2011, 10:38 PM
Maybe they see whats coming. Maybe the Dems really don't want to be in control when the system comes crashing down. Maybe the want to let the republicans take 2012, senate, house and presidency. Then hang the crash around the republicans necks.

Naw. They're too blinded by their desire for power to see what's coming. They are true believers blinded by their faith. The republicans not much better these days. Neither can think outside of their dogmatic faiths... outside the box.

Maybe dogmatic 'beliefs' ?

I agree both dimocrats and rethuglicans suck.


Wart

LAGC
10-21-2011, 05:37 AM
Dude, that's complete bullshit. You haven't noticed the direction of the numbers and obviously don't talk to enough people with the gumption to vote. His base is demoralized, his opposition is foaming at the mouth.

I don't disagree that many on the far-left are disappointed in O'bummer, but he still has an over 80% approval rating amongst liberal Dems. And have you seen how much cash he's raised already? Far more than any of the Republican candidates combined, and most of it isn't even from his big corporate donors, but just small individual donations. He still has a lot of loyal followers who will show up in 2012.

Whether the "opposition" can be riled up enough to vote depends on who their candidate is. It's easy for everyone to be gung-ho now with all their respective favorite candidates still in the race, but what happens when Romney (the only one who has raised a considerable amount of cash) wins? How many gun-owners are going to pull the level for him? How many TEA Party people who are opposed to RomneyCare, the precursor to ObamaCare?

Don't get me wrong, I won't be voting for Obama (unless a religious wacko like Perry or Bachmann somehow win the Republican nomination), but many millions of others will. I just don't think you can count him out yet.


How is it you blame the Republicans for not doing something at the moment? Barry and the Dems control the Senate and the WH. The Repubs have held the house less than a year. Everything they've attempted dies in the Senate.

What exactly have the House Republicans proposed to try to tackle our high unemployment rate? Ever single jobs bill proposed has been killed.

Schuetzenman
10-21-2011, 05:48 AM
What exactly have the House Republicans proposed to try to tackle our high unemployment rate? Ever single jobs bill proposed has been killed.

Every single Jobs Bill is another Tax somebody and spend the tax money on temporary Union Labor Government type jobs. They aren't real Jobs because as soon as the tax money runs out so do the jobs. A real Jobs bill would be to cut Federal Spending, Lower Corporate Taxes, Capital Gains Taxes. This would bring industry that has real Jobs back to the USA and these jobs will be filled by unemployed US Citizens. These Citizens in turn will pay their taxes and the revenue to the Fed Gov would go up and the Deficite down. So simple even a Cave Man could figure it out ... but it is too complex for Obama. I can't figure out if he's a smart dumb-ass or a dumb smart-ass, but either way he can't do anything even close to right.

El Jefe
10-21-2011, 10:16 AM
Yep, Obama has yet to propose a "job bill". Calling tax and regulation hikes a "jobs bill" doesn't cut it.

I also think LAGC grossly under estimates the anti-Obama movement afoot.

ATAK, Inc.
10-21-2011, 11:31 AM
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

A. Einstien

Warthogg
10-21-2011, 11:49 AM
Here is President Barry's quandry. Barry does not really want to create just 'jobs' Barry wants and needs to create union and .gov jobs. Harry Reid has told us the private sector is doing just FINE on job creation but the public sector needs billions to help create new jobs !

When Barry yodels his concern about our crumbling infrastructure and the like and wants to put up billions to repair that's because those construction jobs virtually mandate union workers.


Wart

El Jefe
10-21-2011, 02:46 PM
Here is President Barry's quandry. Barry does not really want to create just 'jobs' Barry wants and needs to create union and .gov jobs. Harry Reid has told us the private sector is doing just FINE on job creation but the public sector needs billions to help create new jobs !

When Barry yodels his concern about our crumbling infrastructure and the like and wants to put up billions to repair that's because those construction jobs virtually mandate union workers.


Wart

Any Federal, and most State projects will be Union, or at the very least prevailing wage. Which is why projects put forward by government cost so damned much.

Gunner1558
10-21-2011, 05:35 PM
Because he didn't want to be assassinated, Biden was an insurance policy.



Have seen many times where I worked... Nobody wants a close subordinate that is smarter than they are!

tank_monkey
10-21-2011, 05:51 PM
Have seen many times where I worked... Nobody wants a close subordinate that is smarter than they are!

well then, that proves that Dubya was a braver man than all of them. Cheney, regardless of his personality, was a lot smarter than George. But Dubya didn't hold it against him.