Cain attacked

[Warthogg]

for problems with two women in the 1990's. Seems the women received cash settlements for alleged sexual harassment by Herman when he was with the National Restaurant Association.

I'm no Cain fan but this seems to be BS. I would guess Mitt Romney is behind the attacks.


Wart

[American Rage]

or MSNBC

[sevlex]

He got "Clarence Thomased"

[Warthogg]

Not much of response.


Wart


Calling the story “thinly source allegations,” Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon said: “Since Washington establishment critics haven’t had much luck in attacking Mr. Cain’s ideas to fix a bad economy and create jobs, they are trying to attack him in any way they can.” Gordon did not address any of the specific allegations in the report. Asked for a more specific answer, the campaign did not provide details.

http://conservativebyte.com/2011/10/herman-cain-denies-sexual-harassment-claims/

[LAGC]

He should have known these skeletons would come out of the closet if he became the front-runner.

Stick a fork in him, he's through.

Hello, President Romney.

[btcave]

Can we get a politician... or a man in general who doesn't cross the line with the ladies? Of course not. Few men or women can meet the standard that is expected. If you dug into my past, I couldn't. I'm not a womanizer like Bluedog, but i"ve got a skeleton or two in the closet. Just sayin BD. :)

If it's a habitual problem, then as LAGC said... he's through. It may even be deserved.

[Kadmos]

Can we get a politician... or a man in general who doesn't cross the line with the ladies? Of course not. Few men or women can meet the standard that is expected. If you dug into my past, I couldn't. I'm not a womanizer like Bluedog, but i"ve got a skeleton or two in the closet. Just sayin BD. :)

If it's a habitual problem, then as LAGC said... he's through. It may even be deserved.

It's one thing to make an occasional lewd comment or have had a one night stand, but nope, nothing I've done has required a cash settlement for sexual harassment.

[btcave]

It's one thing to make an occasional lewd comment or have had a one night stand, but nope, nothing I've done has required a cash settlement for sexual harassment.

True. I also am not a man holding power, being so might might attract law suits of this sort.. One president, can't remember his name, refused to be in the presence of a woman alone while holding office. I followed this same protocol while serving in the army. It keeps you out of trouble. Something a presidential hopeful might want to consider.

[Warthogg]

I was listening to Geraldo when Cain's campaign manager actually called Geraldo in the middle of the show. (May have been taped for all I know.) Could hear the guy talking on Geraldo's cell phone....campaign manager must have been asked at least four times for a direct answer to the allegations. No direct answer came and he certainly had every opportunity.


Wart

[btcave]

I was listening to Geraldo when Cain's campaign manager actually called Geraldo in the middle of the show. (May have been taped for all I know.) Could hear the guy talking on Geraldo's cell phone....campaign manager must have been asked at least four times for a direct answer to the allegations. No direct answer came and he certainly had every opportunity.


Wart

Not surprised Wart.. and I want Cain to be all that and a bag of chips. Oh well.

[Warthogg]

Not surprised Wart.. and I want Cain to be all that and a bag of chips. Oh well.

Former Detective Mark Furmam happened to be a guest on the set when the campaign manager called in. After the call had ended Geraldo asked Mark Furman who he thought was to blame for dredging up the dirt. Mark immediately asked: "Who has the most to gain?" Both Mark and Geraldo answered "Mitt Romney" !!


Wart

[btcave]

Former Detective Mark Furmam happened to be a guest on the set when the campaign manager called in. After the call had ended Geraldo asked Mark Furman who he thought was to blame for dredging up the dirt. Mark immediately asked: "Who has the most to gain?" Both Mark and Geraldo answered "Mitt Romney" !!


Wart

Again. Not surprised. Romney, or someone behind the scenes who needs Romney to be the guy? Bankers, elite, etc? Not saying Cain won't be in their pockets as well, just wishing.

I really don't want to vote with the cartridge box some day. I'm getting too long in the tooth for it.

[Justin]

I'm honestly not too crazy about either Romney or Cain, Bachmann seems to be alright though.

[btcave]

I'm honestly not too crazy about either Romney or Cain, Bachmann seems to be alright though.

I wish we could raise Jefferson from the dead and make him President for 8 years. I ain't to crazy about most of the "republican" candidates, including Bachmann.

[Justin]

I wish we could raise Jefferson from the dead and make him President for 8 years. I ain't to crazy about most of the "republican" candidates, including Bachmann.

I know how you feel, as I said in my post Bachmann seems "alright," I didn't say that she was "great," or "perfect." It just feels like neither candidate from any of the parties is worth a vote these days.

[Schuetzenman]

Former Detective Mark Furmam happened to be a guest on the set when the campaign manager called in. After the call had ended Geraldo asked Mark Furman who he thought was to blame for dredging up the dirt. Mark immediately asked: "Who has the most to gain?" Both Mark and Geraldo answered "Mitt Romney" !!


Wart

Which fits with what I have posted in the past. I said I think that the candidates are prepicked by a power structure. Romney is the guy They want and Cain is beating his ass, Cain isn't in Their structure, he isn't under Their control. Therefore they have to smear the man and try to kill his campaign momentum as it is endangering their prepicked puppet, Romney. Who are They, doens't matter what their name is really, but I would say it is the group, (regardless of name) that wants a one world Socialist Government.

Having done slight of hand card tricks I recognize the pattern of presenting to the audience the ILLUSION of free and random choice only the outcome is totally scripted. Example: I fan out the cards and say pick a card and memorize it. Show it to your friends. I collapse the deck in to the palm of my left hand with my fingers gently holding the deck. Now put your card back on the deck and I will cut the deck 3 times. Then I will cut the deck into 5 stacks on the table. I will say to you "point to any stack" you will point and depending on what you point at I either take away that stack or leave it. This goes on until we have one stack of cards on the table. I say flip over the top card and that will be your card, sure enough it is! Magic!!! Wow! Cool!

Now, how I just made you dance to my tune like a marionette on strings. When You place your card on the top of the deck I squish the fleshy part of my pinky finger over the card slightly. So as I shuffle the deck cutting it over and over, doesn't matter how many times I always keep card indexed in the deck. When I place the 5 piles of deck on the table I know exactly which pile has YOUR card on top. By saying Point to a stack I leave it open as to Leave it or take it away. If you are unfamiliar with card tricks you have no way to know this. If you point to the stack that has your card I leave it, when you point to a stack that does not have your card I take it away. Finally we have only one stack left. It seems as if it's totally random and free choice on your part what stack is left on the table ... it isn't. I have arranged for you to have this stack and so I feel we have nothing more and nothing less than the same slight of hand with who ends up President.

If this slander doesn't kill Cain's campaign I wouldn't put it past the power structure to assassinate him and make it some white supremacy type.

[gpwasr10]

Even if it is, myhope is that people are smart enough to see through such things now, that we look for substance over bullshit. If this is Romney, and I think it is, he has no chance of getting my vote in the primaries.

[Warthogg]

I said I think that the candidates are prepicked by a power structure. Romney is the guy They want and Cain is beating his ass,




I'm no fan of either Romney or Cain but I agree.


Wart

[O.S.O.K.]

Yeah, I think Cain scares the elites to be sure. They'd be much more comfy with Mitt.

And this is complete BS - all that's required is for some woman to make allegations - and she's pretty well guaranteed of a settlement - all's she needs to show is that she was in some area with Cain were they couldn't be overheard and claim he said XXXX.

Just like the bitches in the hood - "all's you gotsta do is fuck... and 9 month later you in the big buck".

[El Laton Caliente]

This could be bad and it could be one dirty joke overheard by two disgruntled employees. Five figure settlement, I've seen way more for less just because of the cost of law suits. Most companies will do five figures just to not get dragged into court, lawyers count on it.

[El Jefe]

It's one thing to make an occasional lewd comment or have had a one night stand, but nope, nothing I've done has required a cash settlement for sexual harassment.

Depends on ones standing. Every day schlubs aren't going to be blackmailed. Just sayin.....

[Warthogg]

I've made a quick round of the net news this morning. Herman better be thinking how he is gonna handle this mess.

Jonathan Martin below is the Politico reporter who broke the story:


WILLIE GEIST: Hey Jonathan, what are the allegations specifically as you understand them? There’s obviously a wide range in sexual harassment. What did he do?

JONATHAN MARTIN: We-, we-, well we have to be careful about that obviously, because we’re sensitive to –

GEIST: Of course –

MARTIN: — the sourcing involved here. And also, what also happened to these women as well–we want to be sensitive to that, too. It includes both verbal and physical gestures. These women felt uncomfortable, they were unhappy about their treatment, and they complained to both colleagues and senior officials. In one case it involved, I think, inviting a woman up to a hotel room of Cain’s on the road. Um, but, we-, we-, we’re just not going to get into the details of exactly what happened with these women beside what’s in the story.


http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/31/cain-denies-sexual-harassment-claims/


I THINK one of the women's complaint had something to do with a pubic hair on a coke can......LOL.

The other was made to feel "uncomfortable".

Politico, who broke the story, has some outlets going after them for the vagueness of their reporting.

Wart

[Lysander]

This could be bad and it could be one dirty joke overheard by two disgruntled employees. Five figure settlement, I've seen way more for less just because of the cost of law suits. Most companies will do five figures just to not get dragged into court, lawyers count on it.

I was about to say the same thing. With any perspective this sounds more like two idiots who got a payoff as opposed to a settlement on a case with real merit. I think Cain's camp is being smart by holding off until they know more details. If this can be traced back to Romney Cain will destroy him with it.

[O.S.O.K.]

I personally hope it does trace back to Romney. There are what? 6 more debates left? I would love to see Herman Cain demand an accounting from Mitt Romney over dredging this crap up and hear him ask if that's how Mitt does business? Etc.

I will say this - it's good that this is coming out now - if Cain handles it well, it will kill it as an issue in the real campaign.

[Focused Gunfire]

I heard Cain on the radio today, he said he was cleared of all wrong doing. He also said that there was no transfer of money, so he was confused about the settlement claims. I thought he handled it well.

[El Laton Caliente]

Several people on freerepublic.com have pointed out in the original article by Politico it never says the "payment" was a settlement. The way it is worded it just as easily been severance pay when they were dismissed.

[printerman]

The fact that Cain was with the Federal Reserve should be enough to use your vote elsewhere ....

I like most of what he says however .....

[Warthogg]

Five figure settlement, I've seen way more for less just because of the cost of law suits. Most companies will do five figures just to not get dragged into court, lawyers count on it.

True. $10,000 is considered a good deal for most all companies to get rid of a suit. Good attorneys do NOT want the company they are representing facing a jury. And with damn good cause.


Wart

[Warthogg]

The fact that Cain was with the Federal Reserve should be enough to use your vote elsewhere ....

I like most of what he says however .....

Certainly enough for me. Add in Cain's 'let the states and municipalities control whether or not you can own a firearm' and I've seen enough for sure.



Wart

[tank_monkey]

I quote RUSH:


The Politico and the mainstream media has launched an unconscionable, racially stereotypical attack on an independent, self-reliant conservative black because for him that behavior is not allowed. [edit]...

I want to look at a couple things today from a different perspective. What would the left be doing right now if, let's say, there were an assault on Obama of this nature. Let's say that some conservative publication ran a story exactly like this: Unnamed sources, 15 years ago, with every detail of Obama sexual harassment. What would the Democrat national committee and what would the media be doing? They would be going after the women. They would be targeting these women, and they would name names, and they would destroy them. That is what the Democrats and the media would do. They would set out to find out who these women are that talked to the conservative publication and they would destroy them.

They would call these women racists for trying to destroy a black politician. They would claim that they're working for the Republican National Committee. They would claim that these two women (or these women, whoever), had been hired by the Republican National Committee to engage in this smear and lie campaign against Obama. They would go after these women. They would destroy them. They would make the women the bad guys. They would dig into every minor thing in these women's lives that they have ever done. They would trash them, they would make them prove the unprovable -- because this is war, and that's how they fight it. Anything goes, as far as they're concerned, and they cannot allow a black or an Hispanic to rise to the top of a political establishment that is not Democrat.

Think about it LONG AND HARD as you ponder this event.

[Helen Keller]

as far as they're concerned, and they cannot allow a black or an Hispanic to rise to the top of a political establishment that is not Democrat.



thats all that needs to be said.

[Kadmos]

What would the Democrat national committee and what would the media be doing? They would be going after the women. They would be targeting these women, and they would name names, and they would destroy them.

That's one hell of a straw man argument. I think Anthony Weiner would disagree. The blame ended up with the man it laid with.

If Mitt dug it up then good for him! Better it gets dragged up now in the primaries than when it's during the actual election.

Get it out in the open and let the public decide

[LAGC]

That's one hell of a straw man argument. I think Anthony Weiner would disagree. The blame ended up with the man it laid with.

Yep, Rush Limbaugh is full of shit, as usual. Truth is, the Democrats are more eager to eat their own (Shirley Sherrod, Van Jones, etc.) than they are to seriously go after the Republicans.

LOL.

[blacksheep]

He should have known these skeletons would come out of the closet if he became the front-runner.

Stick a fork in him, he's through.

Hello, President Romney.

Do you ever tire of being a leftist shill ?

[tank_monkey]

That's one hell of a straw man argument. I think Anthony Weiner would disagree. The blame ended up with the man it laid with.

If Mitt dug it up then good for him! Better it gets dragged up now in the primaries than when it's during the actual election.

Get it out in the open and let the public decide

You missed the point as usual. Weiner was caught red handed. This with Cain stinks of opportunism and false accusations. I suppose you're the first to bleat that "I Believe you Anita Hill" back in the day and yet were eager to throw Juannita Broderick under the bus.

[tank_monkey]

Yep, I am full of shit, as usual. Truth is, I will twist this anyway I can to make the conservative look bad, even remember history poorly :D
There fixed it for ya :D

[Focused Gunfire]

The reason the MSM turned on Weiner was because he insulted them. Combine that with his horrendous handling of the situation, and the time it happened, and you see the real reason why he had to go. So now he is off somewhere being laundered until they can say that whole thing was ancient history.

[blacksheep]

There fixed it for ya :D

If it's not to much trouble tank could you translate all of his posts for me.:thanx:

[Schuetzenman]

You missed the point as usual. Weiner was caught red handed. This with Cain stinks of opportunism and false accusations. I suppose you're the first to bleat that "I Believe you Anita Hill" back in the day and yet were eager to throw Juannita Broderick under the bus.

Juanita Broderick, Jennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinski. All were reported as trailer park trash or crazy. All have proven to be true and yet the Rapist n Chief got a free pass cause he's a fucking Democrap!

[bum_whisperer]

When there is a viable conservative threat, this shit always follows. How come it was okay for klinton to bang Lewinsky in the Oval Orifice?

[Integratedj]

When there is a viable conservative threat, this shit always follows. How come it was okay for klinton to bang Lewinsky in the Oval Orifice?

Because to him it wasn't banging lewinsky. At least that's his claim, so it must be true.

[O.S.O.K.]

When there is a viable conservative threat, this shit always follows. How come it was okay for klinton to bang Lewinsky in the Oval Orifice?

This is rhetorical of course - you know why.

But I think we need to think about the larger reason. And that's the fact that where the dims savagely attack the victims that come out against their candidates, the repubs do not. The repubs act civily and with honor (generally) but the dims are "no holes barred" and will do what ever it takes to supress the accusation regardless of wether it's ethical or if they destroy a person in the process.

In other words - in a simplified way of saying it - the dims are evil and the repubs take the high road. And the laimstream media have sided with the evil ones.

That's my take on it anyway.

[Warthogg]

Juanita Broderick, Jennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinski. All were reported as trailer park trash or crazy. All have proven to be true and yet the Rapist n Chief got a free pass cause he's a fucking Democrap!

(Has been a looong time since I've thought of this mess.)

Strictly from memory. There was a meeting held either in DC or New York just after the Clintons got the Dim nomination. The Clintons and the suits that ran the major Left Stream media were there. I do not mean the anchors I mean the Ted Turners....the President's of the networks. Bill and Hitlery assured the assembled group that his days of womanizing were in the past...over....ended and the Left Stream media agreed to not go after him about his sordid past.

The Left Stream Media suits kept their word. Bill did not.


Wart

[tank_monkey]

Juanita Broderick, Jennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinski. All were reported as trailer park trash or crazy. All have proven to be true and yet the Rapist n Chief got a free pass cause he's a fucking Democrap!

You forgot the woman Paula Jones, who was SMEARED in the media and eventually became a joke in public opinion. When you get MAJOR NEWS anchors on MSM channels making the ' joke' that "drag a dollar through a trailer park and you'll catch Paula Jones" you know that the MSM are nothing but dishonest propaganda arms of the Democrat Party.

Kathleen Willey, whose cat was killed and 'displayed' for her to see, lest she go public.
Elizabeth Ward Gracen, who fled the U.S. for Canada, because of the threats against her due to Clinton's assaults against her.
The list goes on.

Here is a quote from a book available on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Their-Lives-Targeted-Clinton-Machine/dp/0974670138

And yet this former rapist thug is still a HERO to the left, Celebs, and the MSM. WTF?!?!?!?!?!!

[Warthogg]

Maybe Mr Cain is not telling the whole truth.

Wart


WASHINGTON — The National Restaurant Association gave $35,000 — a year’s salary — in severance pay to a female staff member in the late 1990s after an encounter with Herman Cain, its chief executive at the time, made her uncomfortable working there, three people with direct knowledge of the payment said on Tuesday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45127490/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/#.TrFa47LvveI