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Warthogg
12-14-2011, 12:52 PM
Newt has no problem telling us he is a progressive dirt bag probably because he knows few are listening as we are too busy bashing Barry Obama.


Wart


Newt LOVES FDR......Newt's fav pres (Socialist/Progressive)
Newt admires Teddy Roosevelt (Progressive light)
Newt calls himself a Realpolitik Wilsonian* (Progressive HEAVY)
Newt admires SEIU President Andy Stern (Progressive/Thug)

Newt favors cap n trade.




*Wilson is the same president who gave us the Federal Reserve Bank, the graduated income tax, the Federal Trade Commission....

gpwasr10
12-14-2011, 03:08 PM
Newt has no problem telling us he is a progressive dirt bag probably because he knows few are listening as we are too busy bashing Barry Obama.


Wart


Newt LOVES FDR......Newt's fav pres (Socialist/Progressive)
Newt admires Teddy Roosevelt (Progressive light)
Newt calls himself a Realpolitik Wilsonian* (Progressive HEAVY)
Newt admires SEIU President Andy Stern (Progressive/Thug)

Newt favors cap n trade.




*Wilson is the same president who gave us the Federal Reserve Bank, the graduated income tax, the Federal Trade Commission....

In short, Newt's a fag.

mrkalashnikov
12-14-2011, 03:10 PM
Well, I never planned on voting for Family Man Newt in the first place.

Sidartha
12-14-2011, 03:16 PM
Question;
Have you ever said anything positive about any president or candidate?

That said I wanted Cain to win the primary but he was assassinated so now I'll simply vote for whomever the R candidate is.
Not because I love that person(hell I don't even know who that person is yet) but because I think that ANY of the Republicans would do less damage to the country than Obama would in a second term.
Perhaps if we send another crop of Tea Party Senators and Congressmen to Washington this election said Republican President can reverse some of the damage done in the passed eight years.

'Course if you just want to sit on the sidelines and bitch about any and everything then that's helpful too.
:dedhorse:

weevil
12-14-2011, 03:35 PM
Question;
Have you ever said anything positive about any president or candidate?



He does seem rather fond of Obama and is quite content to see him serve a second term.


Now that you mention it though all of his vitriol seems to be aimed at the "Rethuglicans" as he calls them.

Constant bitching about Dubya or Reagan, but I don't recall him ever having a bad word to say about Clinton or Carter or Obama for that matter.

samiam
12-14-2011, 06:23 PM
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Warthogg
12-14-2011, 08:16 PM
He does seem rather fond of Obama and is quite content to see him serve a second term.


Now that you mention it though all of his vitriol seems to be aimed at the "Rethuglicans" as he calls them.

Constant bitching about Dubya or Reagan, but I don't recall him ever having a bad word to say about Clinton or Carter or Obama for that matter.



He does seem rather fond of Obama and is quite content to see him serve a second term.


For the record I despise Obama, Carter and the Clinton but also Dubya and McCain among a loooong list.

Looking to 2012, I'm searching for the candidate that will be least destructive and that damn sure is not Newt and may be a gridlocked Barry though I could never vote for Barry.


Wart

TheMrMitch
12-14-2011, 08:17 PM
Is he a smooth Newt?
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Smooth_newt.jpeg

Warthogg
12-14-2011, 08:19 PM
Question;
Have you ever said anything positive about any president or candidate?

That said I wanted Cain to win the primary but he was assassinated so now I'll simply vote for whomever the R candidate is.
Not because I love that person(hell I don't even know who that person is yet) but because I think that ANY of the Republicans would do less damage to the country than Obama would in a second term.
Perhaps if we send another crop of Tea Party Senators and Congressmen to Washington this election said Republican President can reverse some of the damage done in the passed eight years.

'Course if you just want to sit on the sidelines and bitch about any and everything then that's helpful too.
:dedhorse:


Have you ever said anything positive about any president or candidate?



I remember complimenting Eisenhower for the Interstate Highway system



Perhaps if we send another crop of Tea Party Senators and Congressmen to Washington this election said Republican President can reverse some of the damage done in the passed eight years.


I no longer have even a shred of belief that will happen


Wart

weevil
12-14-2011, 08:27 PM
For the record I despise Obama, Carter and the Clinton.

Looking to 2012, I'm searching for the candidate that will be least destructive and that damn sure is not Newt and may be a gridlocked Barry though I could never vote for Barry.


Wart


So basically you hate everyone who has ever been or ever wanted to be president?




So the answer to Sidartha's question is "no" then?



That's all well and dandy but isn't hoping he gets re-elected and trashing anyone who opposes him basically the same as a vote for him?

Warthogg
12-14-2011, 08:35 PM
That's all well and dandy but isn't hoping he gets re-elected and trashing anyone who opposes him basically the same as a vote for him?

Not even close to the same thing. Further, I do not yet hope Barry is re-elected.....unless Newt is the candidate.


So basically you hate everyone who has ever been or ever wanted to be president?


Nope.


Wart

Sidartha
12-14-2011, 08:37 PM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTPT9Us5Cb-15azGht-sWBpLNviOcPimBRrOcTaVIBQeKDuZouU


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I'm glad you felt like contributing something worthwhile to the thread.:slap:

I've given up on my perfect candidate being elected.
For the record my perfect candidate is someone who shrinks government, respects my personal freedom to the utmost extent and does not attempt to legislate morality based on his religion.

Now I realize that every candidate is a compromise with the rest of the public and I can't get my way all the time.
So I will have to make a choice come Nov 4th.
Which of the candidates;
A) will be best for the country?
A) can win the election.
No matter how hard anyone wishes, the country will not elect a Libertarian or a Green or Ron Paul.
Right now I think any of the remaining R candidates will be better than Obama and they have the best chance of being elected.
You can choose whom to vote for in the primary according to your own criteria, but when the general comes along you better vote.
Because if you get all butthurt because your preferred pick didn't win and you're just going to stay home rather than vote for (____) then you help Obama win.

If you let these sort of divide and conquer tactics work on you then they win.
Any vote not cast for a Republican in this election is the same as a vote for Obama.

I know there are allot of Libertarians on this board and I count myself among them but we gotta face facts, as long as the media and the two parties keep us out of the election process then we'll never win.
This election is too important to throw you're vote away on a dream or an ideal.

Short version for the reading impaired:
Get out there and vote your guy in the primary.
If your guy loses then suck it the fuck up and vote for the winner in the general.
Because the consequences of another Obama term is too horrible to allow

Warthogg
12-14-2011, 08:38 PM
The unfounded HOPE of many simply delays the inevitable and continues to weaken us.

You may continue to HOPE of course but Hope will not bring a solution.


Wart

Warthogg
12-14-2011, 08:41 PM
Question;

Question....do you have any comment on my original post ??

Wart

How about you weevil ??

gpwasr10
12-14-2011, 08:48 PM
I'm with Wart on this one. WE are well past the point of any "normal" solution, Americans are simply to fat, dumb, and lazy to support anything that will make them uncomfortable.

Now we must start thinking outside the box.

Warthogg
12-14-2011, 08:59 PM
Now we must start thinking outside the box.



Exactly.


Wart

Sidartha
12-14-2011, 09:10 PM
Question....do you have any comment on my original post ??

Wart

How about you weevil ??
How can I comment on your post except to say show your work.
You post a couple of rather generic statements yet you don't provide a link to the alleged comments so we can see the context they were made in or if they were made at all.
You posted a drive by attack on a man without bothering to show that your comments have any basis in fact.
The fact that you're still commenting in the thread is all that keeps you from being labeled a troll.

If you have a coherent thought in your head then you should take the time to put it down in complete sentences, not as a series of bullet points before tottering off to poop somewhere else.

Is that enough attention paid to you and your post?
Can we get back to discussing the election now?

Warthogg
12-14-2011, 09:18 PM
How can I comment on your post except to say show your work.
You post a couple of rather generic statements yet you don't provide a link to the alleged comments so we can see the context they were made in or if they were made at all.
You posted a drive by attack on a man without bothering to show that your comments have any basis in fact.
The fact that you're still commenting in the thread is all that keeps you from being labeled a troll.

If you have a coherent thought in your head then you should take the time to put it down in complete sentences, not as a series of bullet points before tottering off to poop somewhere else.

Is that enough attention paid to you and your post?
Can we get back to discussing the election now?




That said I wanted Cain to win the primary but he was assassinated so now I'll simply vote for whomever the R candidate is.





As your mind(?) is already decided, there is nothing to discuss with you.


Wart

weevil
12-14-2011, 09:22 PM
Question....do you have any comment on my original post ??

Wart

How about you weevil ??



Oh I don't know as I'm qualified to answer.


I'm not a "Newt lover", an apologist perhaps but frankly I don't like the guy much myself but if he's the candidate running against Obama I'll back him 100%.


Same if it's Romney or Paul, Santorum, Cain,Trump, an old yellow dog or Satan himself.


Gridlocked or not Obama in his second term will be the worst possible thing that ever happened to this country.



If you're one of those people who's lost all hope in America and just want it all to come crashing down as soon as possible, then yeah Obama's da man!


However I still believe in the American dream passed on to me and the same one I want to pass on to my children and it's not gonna happen with four more years of Obama as our leader.


Will Newt be any better???


Who knows?

Yes no maybe so.



But we know for sure what we will get from Obama and he won't be worrying about kissing ass to get re-elected this time around.

Warthogg
12-14-2011, 09:23 PM
I've given up on my perfect candidate being elected.
For the record my perfect candidate is someone who shrinks government, respects my personal freedom to the utmost extent and does not attempt to legislate morality based on his religion.

Now I realize that every candidate is a compromise with the rest of the public and I can't get my way all the time.
So I will have to make a choice come Nov 4th.
Which of the candidates;
A) will be best for the country?
A) can win the election.
No matter how hard anyone wishes, the country will not elect a Libertarian or a Green or Ron Paul.
Right now I think any of the remaining R candidates will be better than Obama and they have the best chance of being elected.
You can choose whom to vote for in the primary according to your own criteria, but when the general comes along you better vote.
Because if you get all butthurt because your preferred pick didn't win and you're just going to stay home rather than vote for (____) then you help Obama win.

If you let these sort of divide and conquer tactics work on you then they win.
Any vote not cast for a Republican in this election is the same as a vote for Obama.

I know there are allot of Libertarians on this board and I count myself among them but we gotta face facts, as long as the media and the two parties keep us out of the election process then we'll never win.
This election is too important to throw you're vote away on a dream or an ideal.

Short version for the reading impaired:
Get out there and vote your guy in the primary.
If your guy loses then suck it the fuck up and vote for the winner in the general.
Because the consequences of another Obama term is too horrible to allow

I've read every word.

Mao couldn't have done a better job of brainwashing you in a re-education camp. Just vote R and hope huh.


Wart

gpwasr10
12-14-2011, 10:35 PM
I've read every word.

Mao couldn't have done a better job of brainwashing you in a re-education camp. Just vote R and hope huh.


Wart
Agreed, if Newt is the best that the R's can do, I'll vote D out of spite. And I fucking HATE Obama, but honestly I would rather see NOTHING done under OBama then back a Republican Party that has fallen so low.