OK, who's getting one?

[NewbieAKguy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cozmt5fWghk

http://militarygunsupply.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=57&products_id=1105

[Mark Ducati]

Looks pretty neat, just like the AR ones... but the only thing that I wonder about is fitting AK's that have all sorts of different rear trunions and stock attachments.

AR's seem to be uniform...

I bought a Romanian folding rear stock once to put on an 85C model and it wouldn't fit worth a flip.

[Full Otto]

Post #46 has a pretty good close up of it here
http://www.gunsnet.net/showthread.php?12562-Ever-SEEN-one-of-the-SSAR15-bump-fire-gizmos/page3&highlight=SSAR15+bump+fire+gizmos%3F

Can't see me getting one soon and it looks a little to complicated to try a do it yourself out of a normal stock.

[Penguin]

Looks cool though I am sure it is only a matter of time before the ATF rules it is a machine gun.

[jojo]

They look kinda cheesy to me but the function is impressive. I remember years ago that one of the old members here had an idea similar to this and had actually built a prototype for about $5.

[Nautilus]

I'll Probably pick one up. I have one of the ar version. It's a fun toy, wish they tried a little harder to make it look decent.

[Lucenut]

I ordered one yesterday. How does it look complicated? Did you watch the 7 minute installation video?

[Full Otto]

to try a do it yourself out of a normal stock

[NewbieAKguy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFVUQru2THo

[deth502]

They look kinda cheesy to me but the function is impressive. I remember years ago that one of the old members here had an idea similar to this and had actually built a prototype for about $5.

i think it was mriddick

[fostech]

They work though!

[Tx Dogblaster]

Looks cool though I am sure it is only a matter of time before the ATF rules it is a machine gun.

My 1st thought exactly...

[O.S.O.K.]

i think it was mriddick

I built one of those too (copying the instructions shown) - it utilizes a spring though... so baaad baaad

And I won't be popping for $320 to make bump firing easier. I can bump fire fine as-is thanks.

[Randell Flagg]

I have one man you talk about a beast lol this made a huge difference in firing lol came quick as well had it with in 5 days ordered it from Atlantic Arms

[Tom]

Waste of ammo if you ask me. I know you didn't...

[O.S.O.K.]

Full auto and "simulated" fa is fun - let's be honest.

But it is an expensive ammo-eatinf excersize... No doubt about it.

[PROBASCO]

I ordered one yesterday. How does it look complicated? Did you watch the 7 minute installation video?
so, did you get one and try it?

[Snowman45]

Looks like a massive waste of perfectly good ammo to me.

[oxfordethan]

I'm a sucker for bump firing. It seems like every shooting trip is going to include at least one mag of bump firing. I just can't see paying that much for SSAK-47.

[oxfordethan]

I built one of those too (copying the instructions shown) - it utilizes a spring though... so baaad baaad

And I won't be popping for $320 to make bump firing easier. I can bump fire fine as-is thanks.

Where are these instructions???

[FunkyPertwee]

The Bumpski looks a lot better, but costs even more.

[Sergi762]

Waste of ammo if you ask me. I know you didn't...
I'd have to agree for the most part. the more I look into these bump fire stocks the less appealing they seem aside from the "fun" factor. I don't see to many of these being used with drum mags either but that's another matter..

[O.S.O.K.]

The instructions are on the old board.

It's very easy though - you use a tapco m4 type adjustable stock - drill a hole through the locking lever so that you can put a pin through it to hold it open - so it doesn't catch and lock the stock and then insert an AR recoil spring (cut in about half) inside of the stock to make it springy. This is basically just a bump fire facilitatator but it works very well. Probably not legal but it works.

I no longer have this assembled... and wont.

[Krupski]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cozmt5fWghk

http://militarygunsupply.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=57&products_id=1105

Does the Slidefire have a spring in the stock, or do you have to pull the rifle forwards?

[Krupski]

The instructions are on the old board.

It's very easy though - you use a tapco m4 type adjustable stock - drill a hole through the locking lever so that you can put a pin through it to hold it open - so it doesn't catch and lock the stock and then insert an AR recoil spring (cut in about half) inside of the stock to make it springy. This is basically just a bump fire facilitatator but it works very well. Probably not legal but it works.

I no longer have this assembled... and wont.


Of course it's legal. Regardless of how fast your rifle fires, it's still one shot per trigger pull, right? That's the devil's own definition of semi-auto.

On one of my AR-15 rifles I machined out the center two of the 4 detents on the telestock (extension tube) so that the stock is either full open or full collapsed.

Then I have a pin that holds the release lever partly depressed (so that the stock slides between the detents but doesn't fall off).

Lastly there is 1/2 of a standard AR-15 recoil spring inside with a pill bottle and roll pin in the back to retain the spring.

It works great (and it reduces recoil to almost zero in "ordinary" shooting).

Oh and yeah I did this YEARS ago... long before Aikens tried to patent a spring! :lool:

[Krupski]

Where are these instructions???

Here's all you need for "instructions":

http://www.gunsnet.net/photopost/data/500/all-u-need.jpg

[printerman]

My club allows slide fire and bump firing but it's not for me ! Years ago people "ragged" my arse hard for going with what they thought were cheesy add-ons and toy-like products ! But as time has gone on it's proved to be quality choices and better construction than many of the slap-ons that I see going on ....

I'm thinking these add-ons look cheesy and are fads of ammo-waste !!

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp241/printerman-photo/archery/DSC_9856.jpg

When you've already got "the Kind" why waste your time .....

[oxfordethan]

Here's all you need for "instructions":

http://www.gunsnet.net/photopost/data/500/all-u-need.jpg

Got it. Simple.

[deth502]

Here's all you need for "instructions":

http://www.gunsnet.net/photopost/data/500/all-u-need.jpg

im no atf agent, but id say that will get you 10 years of buttfucking.

[Comanswoodwork]

I am currently working on a wood bump fire stock to retain the classic Ak look and feel. Think anyone might be interested in one of them after final testing confirms its reliable? First prototype should be done in about a week.

[akguy1985]

I don't need a special stock to bump fire.

[binky59]

I bought one just because I like to buy the new stuff and try it out.
needed a little fitting for the rear of the reciever (about 5min with a little file)
Went together easily. the new stocks have been improved by the company
The installation video is on their site and on youtube. I put this on a romy
with a stamped receiver that I knew was a proven runner and holy shit what
a blast. It has a knob to switch between bump and semi. If you try running
through a 75 rnd drum, get out the hot dogs cause your gas tube is going
to be very hot. these are legal and have a card that comes in the box from
the BATF stating that it is. It has no springs, and works just like you, bumping
from the hip only it is shoulder fired so you can actually aim at something.
Looks cheap, works great.

[Penguin]

So I take it that at some point the ATF ruled that bump fire stocks were ilegal if they had a spring but only if they had a spring?

[whitelightning777]

I bought one just because I like to buy the new stuff and try it out.
needed a little fitting for the rear of the reciever (about 5min with a little file)
Went together easily. the new stocks have been improved by the company
The installation video is on their site and on youtube. I put this on a romy
with a stamped receiver that I knew was a proven runner and holy shit what
a blast. It has a knob to switch between bump and semi. If you try running
through a 75 rnd drum, get out the hot dogs cause your gas tube is going
to be very hot. these are legal and have a card that comes in the box from
the BATF stating that it is. It has no springs, and works just like you, bumping
from the hip only it is shoulder fired so you can actually aim at something.
Looks cheap, works great.

In an actual self defense situation, can you fight better with a slide fire or is it just something to impress the ladies?

I'm happy with my semiauto SA-93. I just wish it was a tad more accurate.

Still, the slidefire radiates coolness.

[Krupski]

im no atf agent, but id say that will get you 10 years of buttfucking.

Are you kidding? It's a recoil reducing spring. The rifle fires one shot per trigger pull... i.e. not a machinegun. Geez.....

[binky59]

In an actual self defense situation, can you fight better with a slide fire or is it just something to impress the ladies?

I'm happy with my semiauto SA-93. I just wish it was a tad more accurate.

Still, the slidefire radiates coolness.

I can't see using it in a defensive situation, I'm better with semi.
My other AK's are plain jane woodys, no frills but tuned up.
Oh, and yes the ladies love the thing.

[deth502]

Are you kidding? It's a recoil reducing spring. The rifle fires one shot per trigger pull... i.e. not a machinegun. Geez.....

yup. tell that to bill akins.

[FunkyPertwee]

yup. tell that to bill akins.

Bill Akins is involved with the Slide fire stock.

In fact he came kn the site a few years ago and yelled at Mrridick and Krupski for posting their hame made bumpfire stock instructions, citing patent infringement. He kept uoting people and saying "screenshot taken". What a douche.

[AKTexas]

Bill left because no one gave two shits about his "patents".

[deth502]

Bill Akins is involved with the Slide fire stock.



yes, which the atf determined was legal BECAUSE it was powered by the user. the akins accelerator was declared an illegal machine gun because it relied on springs to power itself, just like the design krup posted.