Looking in to getting a supressor ?

[abpt1]

Leaning twards 5.56 please school me on the different company's also quality vs value ....

[O.S.O.K.]

I am going to add a question to this - not to jack the thread.... the question is: Does a supressor designed for 30 caliber do a good job with .223 as well? The reason I ask is that if you can get one supressor that works for 30 caliber on down, you get more "bang for your buck" so to speak.

Is there a standard thread count amongst most supressors? At least considering for American rifles?

Back to the OP - just maybe add this if you know - TIA

[Helen Keller]

.30 cal can is OK on a .223 gun. some stuff it makes it a little quieter.


Just get a model that uses a dedicated flash hider mount for each gun if you're gonna swap.


Heres the deal, HOw much are you gonna shoot?

Semi?
Full AUto?

[abpt1]

I am going to add a question to this - not to jack the thread.... the question is: Does a supressor designed for 30 caliber do a good job with .223 as well? The reason I ask is that if you can get one supressor that works for 30 caliber on down, you get more "bang for your buck" so to speak.

Is there a standard thread count amongst most supressors? At least considering for American rifles?

Back to the OP - just maybe add this if you know - TIA thats a great idea need to look in to that more


.30 cal can is OK on a .223 gun. some stuff it makes it a little quieter.


Just get a model that uses a dedicated flash hider mount for each gun if you're gonna swap.


Heres the deal, HOw much are you gonna shoot?

Semi?
Full AUto?

yeah I deffently am looking for a QD.

Semi and 1-3k rds a year

[L1A1Rocker]

Some more things to consider. Are you going to shoot cast bullets? I know your first reaction is most likely no BUT, what about a .22 conversion? Also, would you ever want to mount it onto a .22 rimfire firearm? If yes to either you may want to find a take apart silencer so that you can clean out the bullet lube/lead buildup.

Keep in mind that a .223/556 silencer is not going to get you "Hollywood quiet". A good quality can will get you to "hearing safe" levels where you won't have to ware hearing protection but it may not be to levels you desire. Please keep your expectations reasonable.

Also, will this silencer be used on an SBR? If so make sure of what barrel length the silencer manufacture will warrenty the silencer for. The 556 is NOT a very effecent round. There is a lot of unburned powder coming out the barrel at 16 inches, and a Hell of a lot when you cut the barrel down to 10 inches. Dumping all that unburned powder into an oxygen rich silencer (first round pop) is a real strain on a silencer.

One last thing, a warning. Silencers are VERY addictive. You may want to start budgeting for a "few" more.

Good luck in your quest, may I suggest AAC, Silencerco, thompson machine, and Liberty as good quality manufacturers. The ones I'd stay away from are Shooters Depot in Corpus and another that the name escapes me . . . I believe they are located in Aransas Texas somewhere.

Again, good luck.

[Helen Keller]

Keep in mind that a .223/556 silencer is not going to get you "Hollywood quiet".

about .. 22mini-mag quiet.

the only thing I've had thats Hollywood is an Uzi . takes some work and some FELT.




You can spend $400-2000 on a .223-308 can or Buy a welder that can handle stainless and register it for $200 like me.

[L1A1Rocker]

the only thing I've had thats Hollywood is an Uzi . takes some work and some FELT.



The 96-22 that I built the integral suppressor on is just plain scarry quiet. Very old school with polyurethane baffles but LOTS of volume. I'm very happy with it.

[Solidus-snake]

Sorry I'm noy trying to hijack but which is quieter, .223 or .308 suppressed?

[abpt1]

Sorry I'm noy trying to hijack but which is quieter, .223 or .308 suppressed?
Yeah and what about using a 308 can on a 5.56?

[Partisan1983]

Sorry I'm noy trying to hijack but which is quieter, .223 or .308 suppressed?

Depends on the suppressor, the host firearm, twist rate of barrel, barrel length, temp/humidity, altitude, type of ammo, shooting the can wet or dry, etc. etc.

[Partisan1983]

Yeah and what about using a 308 can on a 5.56?

See my above post. All the same factors in.

I see no problem with using a 7.62 can on a 5.56. Other guys say it increases your chances of baffle or endcap strikes, due to the can being longer, but I don't know how true that is.

[Partisan1983]

I also forgot to mention, that due to physics and our current technology with audio recordings, hearing a can in real life sounds nothing like the vids you watch online.

[Partisan1983]

Leaning twards 5.56 please school me on the different company's also quality vs value ....

There is no re-sale value with suppressors. You buy one and you will have it for life. So buy the most expensive you can afford while paying attention to quality and the company who made it (customer service, etc. etc.).

The only company I recommend is AAC. But there are others that make some good cans to.

Gemtech can go out of business for all I care.

Another shitty company is/was Red Jacket Firearms :gruebel:

Rocker would know more than me about the company I am thinking of.

[Helen Keller]

Gemtech can go business for all I care.


I have a Gemtech can and they want half the damn price I paid for the can just to update it with a nielsen device.


Making my own from here on out, I'll just be out cost of material and $200 down the toilet.

[Partisan1983]

I have a Gemtech can and they want half the damn price I paid for the can just to update it with a nielsen device.


Making my own from here on out, I'll just be out cost of material and $200 down the toilet.

What they did to the civilian suppressor community.....they can go fuck themselves with a bent rusty spork..... for the win! ;)



I wish I had the knowledge to make (and of course, LEGALLY) my own cans. I have access to all the machinery one would ever need :(

[Solidus-snake]

Depends on the suppressor, the host firearm, twist rate of barrel, barrel length, temp/humidity, altitude, type of ammo, shooting the can wet or dry, etc. etc.

AAC Ranger 2, .223 AR-15, 1:9 twist rate, 16" barrel, 1,086ft above sea level, 55gr brass cased ammo usually, and I would suppose both wet and dry on occasion.

OR

AAC Cyclone, .308 Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC SD, 1:10 twist, 1,086ft above sea level, 168-220gr brass loads or Subsonics and same id try it wet or dry.

Which is capable of being quieter?

[l921428x]

I have a Gemtech can and they want half the damn price I paid for the can just to update it with a nielsen device.


Making my own from here on out, I'll just be out cost of material and $200 down the toilet.

Can you make your own and just pay the fee?

[abpt1]

Any info on this ? AAC 7.62sdn-6

[Helen Keller]

Can you make your own and just pay the fee?


YEP, Get your approved Form 1 back and get to work.

[Partisan1983]

AAC Ranger 2, .223 AR-15, 1:9 twist rate, 16" barrel, 1,086ft above sea level, 55gr brass cased ammo usually, and I would suppose both wet and dry on occasion.

OR

AAC Cyclone, .308 Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC SD, 1:10 twist, 1,086ft above sea level, 168-220gr brass loads or Subsonics and same id try it wet or dry.

Which is capable of being quieter?


IMHO the second one. Subsonics outta of a bolt action are much quieter than a semiauto.


Shooting a single shot with a wet can is also a much more pleasing experience than a SA.

[Partisan1983]

Any info on this ? AAC 7.62sdn-6






It's a great can if you are interested in a mulit-caliber rifle host.

[Partisan1983]

Can you make your own and just pay the fee?

Helen Keller is correct.


L1A1Rocker has done a few awesome builds himself.

[Partisan1983]

At the SHOT show this week, AAC has changed their lineup somewhat.....



ELEMENT2 - flat back endcap, Ti tube, $50 cheaper

RANGER3 - M42000 internals, modified rear end, same price as Ranger2

SR5 - 5.56 can using the NEW 90-tooth Ratchet Taper Mount... 90 tooth mount with taper lock to secure the can with no movement at all, very solid. new style fo rthe can. about the same size and weight as the M4-2000 but redesigned internals for minimal backpressure. $1200 MSRP

SR7 - Like the SR5, but in 30 cal. Same size and weight as the 'N-6. $1200 MSRP

MINI7 - 30 cal minican, 51-tooth mount, same size as the MINI4, $895 MSRP

HUNTER - 30 cal, thread on. Shorter and lighter than the CYCLONE-K, $650 MSRP

300-TM - Thread mount all-Ti 300 WM can, $1195 MSRP

MG-SD - civilian available, $2295

1022-SD Complete gun, $1050 MSRP

AAC Complete ARs - 300 BLK - 9" and 12.5" factory SBRs, and a 16" gun, MSRP $1599.95

AAC HandiRifle, 300 BLK - MSRP $359.95


Discontinued:

All MITER cans
the 40 and 45 Evolution
The ECO-9
All those M4-2000 clone military cans

Other:
Price drop on the CYCLONE to $750

[nikko]

there are ways to lock shut the bolt on an autoloading arm, and .22's are easiest. if you'll just fire 2-3 rds of 223 thru the can, for every 200 or so 22'lrs, you'll never have a problem with lead or wax buildup in the can or the gas system, cause the 223 blast and heat will scour it out,. Any decent can design should have a setscrew thru the threads, which pushes a plastic bb against the male threads, locking the can onto the gun, and $1200 is a ridiculous amount of money for something as simple as a can. Once the machinery is set up, they can make a dozen such cans a day. Why pay someone $1200 an hour for something that is THAT simple to make yourself ? that would buy a used Tig welder and used little chinese lathe to make the can's with, with money left over for the tax stamp and a lot of reloading components.

Look, guys, you don't need to PRACTICE with the can mounted. practice with the 22 unit and no can, it will be no noiser than the 223 with the can (due to sonic crack) With the can in place, 223 is jusst as "tame" as the .22 unit without the can, so you save wear on the bore and 223 parts,. and also save 40c a shot, and can fire indoors, where you can't do so with 223. do your snap shooting practice, to 75m or so, with the 22, and reserve the 223 for longer range stuff, and you won't need much of the latter, at all, actually for realistic combat practice.