The Walking Dead

[mustangpd]

Anyone see the new episode of TWD? If you did you like it or not?

[Richard Simmons]

Yep. Liked it!!

[KalashniKid]

is that a zombpocalypse tv series?

[LAGC]

is that a zombpocalypse tv series?

Yup. More info here: http://www.amctv.com/shows/the-walking-dead

[Tx Dogblaster]

Yup, it was pretty cool... Now we have to wait... Damn woman driver...

[Texascop]

I really enjoyed it. Season one was very gory and I loved it. Season two was boring because they spent all season holed up on that stupid farm. It looks like it's about to heat up again. The pick axe through the head of mom and the Sheriff capping the two turds in the bar shows me they're going to step the violence back up to where it needs to be. :copper:

[Hobe Sound AK]

It appear's that the Leader of the Group finally took Charge last Night. I cant believe they left his Wife on the Road till next Week. This Blonde is my Favorite! http://www.gunsnet.net/photopost/data/500/Walking_Blonde.jpg

[T2K]

Just watched it.

More of "Hershel's Farm" in the beginning, then got better.

The Yankee scumbags getting blown away...to be expected. They should have stayed in Philly. Glenn sucked (unusual, he's usually very reliable), he didn't even get a shot off with the 12 gauge. He should have been more ready in that tense situation.

But, as usual on this show, so many things annoy me.

They are just hanging out drinking in a bar in town, with no watch or anything? Really?

The wife (Lori) stupidly goes out after them, alone, after they've been gone for, what, an hour?

If they don't immediately strip those guys of their weapons and gear, take their vehicle and head back to the farm after that gunfire (will attract zombies), then it's just more evidence of how dumb they are.

But yeah, I'm still watching every episode. :)

[Schuetzenman]

News flash for you, the Philly guys have friends and they are knocking on the door next episode. There is going to be a major shoot out. Hirshel is holding the 9 mm the guy behind the bar was carrying. Glenn is acting as a door stop. I expect him to get shot through the door.

A walker is shoving it's face though a hole in the winshield as Lori wakes up.

Should be action packed compared to last 6 episodes from the first of the season.

[Mark Ducati]

Schuetz,

Where did you get your info for the next episode? I recorded the first episode of this season on the DVR and it cut off... they said to watch scenes from the next episode during the first commercial break of whatever show came on after TWD.

Is that were you saw it? Or are you just speculating?

[Schuetzenman]

Schuetz,

Where did you get your info for the next episode? I recorded the first episode of this season on the DVR and it cut off... they said to watch scenes from the next episode during the first commercial break of whatever show came on after TWD.

Is that were you saw it? Or are you just speculating?

No speculating here Mark, I'm talking about what I saw. I also stayed up and watched the Talking Dead show at midnight. (I'm on vacation today after my Japan trip). They also had a sneak of next week during that show. What I'm saying is what's going to happen as I've seen the footage.

[T2K]

News flash for you, the Philly guys have friends and they are knocking on the door next episode. There is going to be a major shoot out. Hirshel is holding the 9 mm the guy behind the bar was carrying. Glenn is acting as a door stop. I expect him to get shot through the door.

A walker is shoving it's face though a hole in the winshield as Lori wakes up.

Should be action packed compared to last 6 episodes from the first of the season.

Schuetz - I don't get the previews here, so good info. Thanks. I do recall the one Philly guy saying something about "we got friends we got to look out for too" or something like that. Really looking forward to the next episode. I don't think the show needs to be one big action sequence, but the Hershel's Farm dragginess really sucked.

Lori needs to die. Unfortunately she won't.

[mustangpd]

just saw the episode on the DVR. Surprised that they buried the 3 loved ones in wrapped in cloth. Figured that they might leach the virus into their drinking water.

[Bluntforce]

The dirt might capture it (the virus) as the fluids come out is my guess as to their assumption. I think they will leave the farm soon if the series bears any resemblance to the graphic novels. Haven't read them but I did do the Cliff Notes (wikipedia) on them.

[Richard Simmons]

Pretty decent episode last night though Glenn needs to man up. Now that Lori told Rick that Shane is a wack job, she thinks he killed Otis AND he thinks the baby is his something is gonna have to happen between those two. I figure Shane and Andrea will take off on their own to come back into the picture later on.

Also wondering if the black guy and his son are going to reappear as members of the group that they had the run in with in town?

[stampederunner]

I think we are going to start seeing a different side of Hershel. He let the zombies feast on the black guy so they could get away. That would have never happened last season.

[Richard Simmons]

I think we are going to start seeing a different side of Hershel. He let the zombies feast on the black guy so they could get away. That would have never happened last season.

Also did you catch his comment to Rick, something like I never said I didn't know how to shoot or handle a gun, I just don't like to, or words to that effect. He dropped that walker with one shot from that SIG.

[Bluntforce]

Also did you catch his comment to Rick, something like I never said I didn't know how to shoot or handle a gun, I just don't like to, or words to that effect. He dropped that walker with one shot from that SIG.

He was also for leaving that skewered scumbag for the walkers, and told Shane to shove it, it was HIS place. The new Hershel is definitely improved. Like I said during the hiatus, Hershel doesn't owe the group a damned thing and he seems to know it.

Rick and Hershel have become more interesting and surprisingly Glen has gotten even less interesting.

[Schuetzenman]

Pretty decent episode last night though Glenn needs to man up. Now that Lori told Rick that Shane is a wack job, she thinks he killed Otis AND he thinks the baby is his something is gonna have to happen between those two. I figure Shane and Andrea will take off on their own to come back into the picture later on.

Also wondering if the black guy and his son are going to reappear as members of the group that they had the run in with in town?

Relative to "Something's going to happen between Rick and Shane now that Lori told him she thinks he capped Otis", well I think it's going to go down next episode. I saw a special preview of next weeks show during The Talking Dead. In it Rick has a knife out and is pulling a dead corpse or zombie overhimself in a dumpster just as about a dozen Walkers come busting out a window and start chasing Shane. It looked like they were fighting to the death is my take on it. Will this be the final episode for Shane, we'll have to tune in and find out.

[L1A1Rocker]

Will this be the final episode for Shane, we'll have to tune in and find out.


I don't know, I know that in the comic book Shane was killed a long time ago by the boy when he took that beed on Rick through the scope. They re-wrote that with the old man catching him and nothing happening. I also recall on an episode of Talking Dead how they were saying that it is much easier to kill off someone in a comic than in a TV show.

Also, IIRC, in the comic book by the end of the third year everyone (all the orginal members of the group) had been killed off. But the "group" kept on going because of new people being added as others died off.

[NATIONALIST]

been watchin the show since the 1st episode and always wondered why they dont have any AR-15, M-16 or AK,s of any kind .

[Schuetzenman]

been watchin the show since the 1st episode and always wondered why they dont have any AR-15, M-16 or AK,s of any kind .

Seriously, it is located in Georgia and there are tons of such weapons in this state. I've often said the same thing.

[T2K]

been watchin the show since the 1st episode and always wondered why they dont have any AR-15, M-16 or AK,s of any kind .

This is a recurring and common comment of basically anyone that knows anything about Georgia that watches the show. If it was set in the UK, fine. It's set in the Southern US.

Note - There ARE lots of M4 carbines laying about at the various scenes of overrun army units. But, frustratingly, NO ONE PICKS THEM UP. Choosing instead to use, say, a revolver with only a handful of rounds left.

[Richard Simmons]

This is a recurring and common comment of basically anyone that knows anything about Georgia that watches the show. If it was set in the UK, fine. It's set in the Southern US.

Note - There ARE lots of M4 carbines laying about at the various scenes of overrun army units. But, frustratingly, NO ONE PICKS THEM UP. Choosing instead to use, say, a revolver with only a handful of rounds left.

IMHO part of it is they use what they are most familiar wth. For someone with little or know training a bolt action rifle and or a revolver are better choices than a semiautomatic. That being said if you think about it, unless someone is really a "gun person" they probably don't have an AR or even an AK in their house but they may have a .22 rifle, dad or grandpa's old shotgun, deer rifle, etc. They've shot those firearms growing up and for their limited skill level it's what they know and feel the most comfortable with. Lacking those particular firearms they acquire other, similar guns. Just a thought.

[Cypher]

I think it has more to do with the story. If they had big arsenals and tons of ammo then the little 1, 2 or 10 walkers they run into wouldn't do it and they would have to have swarms of walkers every show to keep it suspenseful and that would mean a lot more production and special affects money.

I could also see some logic in it being 10 times more difficult to find weapons like that many months (?) after a disaster like that, given the story in the show guns and ammo is probably the first thing that would be scarfed up even if the virus spread like a wild fire it would only take a few people to clean out a gun store. Given the story in the show if I found a gun store intact I would most likely take as much as I could load up assuming there weren't others around that needed weapons.

Still the scene with the guns laying around someone should have at least tried to pick one up or said something like hey when we go back out lets pick up the guns, after the bunker they may have been damaged by the big explosion.

[Focused Gunfire]

All the good stuff has been scrounged up already. Every gun store and armory has been looted, turned into a fort, or overrun by walkers. Think about that 50 BMG near the tank, that area is infested with zombies. Not worth risking an Atlanta street run for it. The M4s outside of the CDC had been laying there for some time before the group even made it to the place. Even if they had not rusted up too bad, they had only a little window to act on them. They ran in to escape the zombies, and ran out to avoid the boom.

[mustangpd]

Worse comment they made was two episodes ago. When the one guy in the bar mentions that they should head to Nebraska, because there are a lot of guns in that state (Im paraphrasing) Made me laugh since GA is a great RKBA state.

[Hobe Sound AK]

Let me bring up something noone else is. Knowing that the Human Body will Die after 3-4 Day's without Water. What if they could no longer find a Food Source, including Animal's. How long would or should it take for them to just drop Dead? Did the Book's say anything about this. Without a Food Source. They would start Decomposing right? Or at least Blow open from the Air in the Bodies. :think:

[T2K]

Let me bring up something noone else is. Knowing that the Human Body will Die after 3-4 Day's without Water. What if they could no longer find a Food Source, including Animal's. How long would or should it take for them to just drop Dead? Did the Book's say anything about this. Without a Food Source. They would start Decomposing right? Or at least Blow open from the Air in the Bodies. :think:

You mean the zombies, right? The "rules" for zombie fiction vary, but the Walking Dead seems to be going with classic Romero (the guy who made the original Night of the Living Dead) style zombies. This means they have a desire to feed on flesh, but not a need. They cannot digest it, it just moves through their body. Their heart, lungs, digestive sytstem, etc are not functioning. They have only basic brain powers directing them to feed, and basic muscle control to accomplish it (which is why they can't run or do complicated athletic things).

The zombie virus greatly slows bacterial action (decomposition and gases). They do decay, but much more slowly than a normal corpse.

[Hobe Sound AK]

Ok, what are we looking at, around 6 Months for them to just Die off?

[T2K]

The Max Brooks book "The Zombie Survival Guide", which is often cited as a reference for this genre of fiction, says something like 5 years in a temperate climate. But, in a tropical, wet place less time, like 2-3. Even less if the zombie is in the water, like in a swamp (or in a well!). However, if the zombie is somewhere where it gets frozen, the virus and brain activity would remain active and the zombie would be active again when it thaws out.

Brooks writes that places where it gets below freezing in the winter offer some safety against zombies since, in the winder months, there is zero zombie activity since they are all frozen.

[FunkyPertwee]

Dr. Logan in Day of the Dead eastimates that it would take 12 years for a functioning zombie to decay to the point of non-function. Once the brain is deactivated, the corpse begins to decay at its natural rate.

[Bluntforce]

In Day by Day The Apocalypse Houston is nuked to stop the zombies. The main character reasoned that the radiation merely killed the bacteria eating the zombies not caught in the initial blast. That was the set up for the follow up book.

In Night of the Living Dead radiation activated those zombies, that same radiation may have killed the bacteria present in their digestive systems that would normally overtake their bodies.

Until it is definitively known that it is the virus the doctor at the CDC thinks started it, nothing can be positively speculated. Some zombies with burst stomachs and trailing entrails should be showing up either from bacterial activity or overfeeding. Cost and time constraints are probably keeping gutless walkers from appearing.

Shedding the encumbrance of entrails yet keeping the spine in tact should actually make a walker in an advanced state of decay slightly more nimble, if one is disemboweled early on, the lost weight would make a walker much more dangerous.

[T2K]

Watched the two latest episodes avail here, the second one being the one where Shane was trapped in the school bus and escaped with Rick and the kid.

The thing about the two cops who were zombies (with pistols still holstered) and with no apparent bite marks was interesting. I think that foreshadows something.

And Rick did take their duty belts, each of which had a Glock and two mags on it.
They also showed them taking fuel, which is good since they do drive around quite a bit.

Glad to see some more action in these last two episodes.

[Schuetzenman]

Watched the two latest episodes avail here, the second one being the one where Shane was trapped in the school bus and escaped with Rick and the kid.

The thing about the two cops who were zombies (with pistols still holstered) and with no apparent bite marks was interesting. I think that foreshadows something.

And Rick did take their duty belts, each of which had a Glock and two mags on it.
They also showed them taking fuel, which is good since they do drive around quite a bit.

Glad to see some more action in these last two episodes.

The makers of the show heard tons of bashing during the first episodes of season 2 about not enough zombies / action. They have promised to step it up and certainly that episode has delivered. Some trivia that I got off the Talking Dead show. The big zombie that falls on Rick and that Rick shoots his revolver through his head, that actor is really a makeup artist from the show and he's 6'-4" tall. Additionally, he is the walker in the field at the very end that Shane is watching.

[Crash]

I enjoy the show but in every episode I get frustrated by the characters or the script.
At the CDC there should have been a weapons cache from the soldiers stationed there inside the building. Why do they keep using the same old crappy broke down vehicles when there are better available on the freeway?
It goes on and on, but it's to balance out the story line. We cant have Shane riding in a fully loaded Stryker laying waste to the zombie hordes. I do think they need to step up the weapons since a headshot is needed that keeps them from going full auto.