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LAGC
02-13-2012, 09:45 PM
The top three Republican presidential candidates pledged a war on porn today which means that they have promised more action to ban porn than to create jobs.

The conservative group Morality In Media is head over heels today after all three top Republican candidates promised to go war against the distribution of porn. In a written statement, Rick Santorum said, “Federal obscenity laws should be vigorously enforced. If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so.”

Not to be outdone, Mitt Romney gave a statement to the group that said, “(I)t is imperative that we cultivate the promotion of fundamental family values. This can be accomplished with increased parental involvement and enhanced supervision of our children. It includes strict enforcement of our nation’s obscenity laws, as well as the promotion of parental software controls that guard our children from Internet pornography.”

Then we have Newt Gingrich, who wasn’t satisfied with a written statement. In a face to face meeting, Gingrich told Morality In Media that, “Yes, I will appoint an Attorney General who will enforce these laws.” The existing laws that each of these candidates were referring to are federal laws that they and Morality In Media feel make the distribution of pornography illegal.
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If you really want to know how the Republican Party got so screwed up, consider that the top three candidates for the Republican presidential nomination has given more detail about how they would ban pornography than they have about how they would create jobs. I don’t care what people do in the privacy of their homes, and you would think that supposedly “small government” conservatives wouldn’t either.


http://www.politicususa.com/en/ban-porn-gingrich-santorum-romney

Welp, there goes the under-30 vote!

Leave it to these fine Christian gentlemen to have their priorities straight.

:yeah:

gpwasr10
02-13-2012, 10:16 PM
http://www.politicususa.com/en/ban-porn-gingrich-santorum-romney

Welp, there goes the under-30 vote!

Leave it to these fine Christian gentlemen to have their priorities straight.

:yeah:

Man, are these asshats for real? I love porno!

imanaknut
02-13-2012, 10:22 PM
Hopefully they will care so much for morality that they will start and attempt to pass an amendment to the constitution banning the sale, consumption, ownership and manufacture of alcoholic beverages.

Gee, trying to legislate morality hasn't worked in the past, why do these dimwits think it can work now.

NAPOTS
02-13-2012, 10:23 PM
If we ban porno I want to be the Al Capone of smuggling in illegal porn from Canada.

LAGC
02-13-2012, 10:25 PM
Man, are these asshats for real? I love porno!

It's like the Republican Party is doing everything in its power to help re-elect President Obama.

I mean, 10 years ago it would be unheard of for a sitting president presiding over such a shitty economy to ever hope to be re-elected.

But each and every week that passes, the Republicans go on some new "moral crusade" or another, doing something so nutty and far-out-there I can't help but think: "How on earth could Obama possibly lose to THESE people?"

The spectacle never ceases to amaze me...

gpwasr10
02-13-2012, 10:31 PM
It's like the Republican Party is doing everything in its power to help re-elect President Obama.

I mean, 10 years ago it would be unheard of for a sitting president presiding over such a shitty economy to ever hope to be re-elected.

But each and every week that passes, the Republicans go on some new "moral crusade" or another, doing something so nutty and far-out-there I can't help but think: "How on earth could Obama possibly lose to THESE people?"

The spectacle never ceases to amaze me...
Well, I'll agree with your red ass on that note.

NAPOTS
02-13-2012, 10:51 PM
Sadly, I do too. Obama won't win re-election, the republicans will loose.

I don't feel like the republicans have fielded canidates worth a shit in several elections.

Warthogg
02-13-2012, 11:41 PM
If we ban porno I want to be the Al Capone of smuggling in illegal porn from Canada.

Surely we would again ban booze so I want to be the Joe Kennedy of smuggling in White Horse scotch from Scotland.


Wart

Warthogg
02-13-2012, 11:44 PM
Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingrich All Promise To Ban Porn


A gathering of fools.


Wart

az_paul
02-14-2012, 12:34 AM
Both of my heads strongly object to banning porn!

You guys are correct about the Republicans doing their best to destroy ttheir chances. Very sad!

Oswald Bastable
02-14-2012, 12:51 AM
http://www.politicususa.com/en/ban-porn-gingrich-santorum-romney

Welp, there goes the under-30 vote!

Leave it to these fine Christian gentlemen to have their priorities straight.

:yeah:

Not seeing any proof of those assertions on the link you've provided.

I see a link to statements you've attributed to said candidates, with no links to where those assertions are found...all purported to be written statements on that site, no links to any candidate site where those statements are made.

Once again, smoke and mirrors by a leftist shill, linking to other leftist shill sites, with no substantive veracity or anything resembling a verifiable fact.

Why am I not surprised?

And you bozos fall for these shills????

I'm really surprised at you gp, aknut...the rest of you...(ok...warthogg not so much, I already knew he was a leftist shill)...but the rest of you...falling for LAGC's BS...I'm ashamed.

LAGC
02-14-2012, 01:02 AM
Uh, you can hear it straight from the horse's mouth:


Former Senator Rick Santorum in a written statement: “Federal obscenity laws should be vigorously enforced. If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so. Limited Justice Department resources should be used to protect children and women from predators, not limited by state boundaries rather than to sue border states.”

Former Governor Mitt Romney in a written statement: “(I)t is imperative that we cultivate the promotion of fundamental family values. This can be accomplished with increased parental involvement and enhanced supervision of our children. It includes strict enforcement of our nation’s obscenity laws, as well as the promotion of parental software controls that guard our children from Internet pornography.”

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich in a face-to-face meeting: When asked by MIM staff if he will enforce existing laws that make much hard-core adult pornography illegal, he responded, “Yes, I will appoint an Attorney General who will enforce these laws.”

http://www.waronillegalpornography.com/candidates/

Do you doubt that these candidates really said what they said about "vigorously enforcing" these ridiculous obscenity laws?

Maybe they're just playing to their social conservative bases... but I don't see how they are going to win over many independents or younger folks with such moralistic hubris.

Oswald Bastable
02-14-2012, 01:16 AM
Uh, you can hear it straight from the horse's mouth:



http://www.waronillegalpornography.com/candidates/

Do you doubt that these candidates really said what they said about "vigorously enforcing" these ridiculous obscenity laws?

Maybe they're just playing to their social conservative bases... but I don't see how they are going to win over many independents or younger folks with such moralistic hubris.

Brilliant...a link to the same site as your original post, no links to any candidate sites, assertions that these are the candidate's statements...not a single...verifiable...link...to...a...candidate...

Just LAGC and the linked website's assertions...expected to be taken as verbatim...

But hey...let's give your pablum the benefit of the doubt...for just a moment...

Let's infer that all the candidates you're attributing these statements to, let's infer for the moment that they did, in fact, make those statements. Let's examine the commonality among all those statements...shall we???

“Federal obscenity laws should be vigorously enforced"

"strict enforcement of our nation’s obscenity laws"

“Yes, I will appoint an Attorney General who will enforce these laws.”

Wow...imagine that...candidates who propose enforcing "EXISTING" laws...

Not that you'd espouse enforcing existing laws...would you. Though you would espouse using personal connections to better your personal situation, just as a 1 percenter would...wouldn't you?

Like all good hypocrites...laws for thee, not for me.

LAGC
02-14-2012, 01:20 AM
Someone is in serious denial.

Face it: your Republican "friends" want to dictate what victimless "crimes" people do in the privacy of their own homes.

So much for "small government" conservatives... :rolleyes:

Oswald Bastable
02-14-2012, 01:37 AM
Someone is in serious denial.

Face it: your Republican "friends" want to dictate what victimless "crimes" people do in the privacy of their own homes.

So much for "small government" conservatives... :rolleyes:

Someone is a serious, blithering idiot...

You've provided no proof other than to show several candidates purportedly support enforcing existing laws...and no proof they've actually made these statements. You expect people to fall in line and believe your blather, just because you posted a link (and because some of the people can be fooled some of the time) you expect all of us to be fooled.

As fools go LAGC, you are a very poor one.

I'm not sure there's a greater cut...than to be considered a lesser fool.

LAGC
02-14-2012, 01:49 AM
Why would a group that wants to ban all porn have those statements by those candidates on its web-site if there was no truth to them?

Do you think they're just making that shit up to make Republicans look bad? Seriously?

Truth is, the Republican Party has a long history of wanting to control our private sex lives.

If you don't want to believe its so, that's your prerogative, I guess. But you can't expect everyone to just stick their heads in the sand.

stinker
02-14-2012, 01:53 AM
you would think that supposedly “small government” conservatives wouldn’t either.

Who the hell ever said with a serious straight face that any of those three are "small government" conservatives? They're anything but. The entire premise is flawed from the beginning because of that particular misnomer.

Oswald Bastable
02-14-2012, 02:07 AM
Why would a group that wants to ban all porn have those statements by those candidates on its web-site if there was no truth to them?

Do you think they're just making that shit up to make Republicans look bad? Seriously?

Truth is, the Republican Party has a long history of wanting to control our private sex lives.

If you don't want to believe its so, that's your prerogative, I guess. But you can't expect everyone to just stick their heads in the sand.

Why would you post links to unsubstantiated and unproven information?

Would it be because it fits your socialist agenda? Who'd a thunk it?

Truth is, the left has a long and storied history of wanting to control every aspect of our lives, starting with the dissemination of the "so called" truth.

And not even the 1st amendment shall come between the left and "their" truth, as witnessed by the recent edict by the fed that Catholics shall fund birth control and abortion...but that's not in any way gov't. involving itself in our private sex lives...is it?

And you've still not proven any of those statements are legitimately attributed to the candidates they've been assigned to, nor have you proven they've said anything other than they'd enforce current federal law, if they in fact made those statements.

So what have you proven so far? Other than you can shill a few into your camp (shame be upon them) with a bit of smoke and mirrors...

And you've proven nothing as to how the left would be any different, other than different restrictions upon our freedoms. And here I thought you were all about freedom???

LAGC
02-14-2012, 02:22 AM
And not even the 1st amendment shall come between the left and "their" truth, as witnessed by the recent edict by the fed that Catholics shall fund birth control and abortion...but that's not in any way gov't. involving itself in our private sex lives...is it?

The Catholic Church claims to be against abortion, yet wants to stop women from being able to have access to the most cheap and effective way to prevent it: by using contraceptives to not get pregnant in the first place! The Church sees women as nothing more than glorified "baby factories" meant to be brood-mares for the state. So pardon me if I take what the Catholic Church says with a grain of salt. "Freedom of religion" doesn't extend to the Church being able to force women to have kids they don't want.

The longer the Republicans cling to this wedge issue, the more its going to hurt them in November. Mark my words. Even most practicing Catholics disagree vehemently with the Church leadership over this issue.


And you've still not proven any of those statements are legitimately attributed to the candidates they've been assigned to, nor have you proven they've said anything other than they'd enforce current federal law, if they in fact made those statements.

Mmm-hmm. What do you want me to do? Produce YouTube videos of the candidates so you can see their lips move for yourself? Why do you find such stances so hard to believe? These Republicans never claimed to be libertarians, they don't care about personal freedoms. Only "economic freedom" in some vague sense.


And you've proven nothing as to how the left would be any different, other than different restrictions upon our freedoms. And here I thought you were all about freedom???

Believe me, I'm not saying the Democrats are much better over-all. But on this subject at least, the Obama Administration has ignored these obscenity laws, as there have been zero prosecutions of adult porn violations under his watch. The fact that these Republicans have stated that they want to enforce these archaic laws on the books tells me all I need to know about where their priorities lie.

gpwasr10
02-14-2012, 02:40 AM
Weather or not these guys WOULD attempt to ban porno; I guess (for me) it does not change that fact that all three of these guys are fairly underwhelming... You would think the Republicans would put someone up there more appealing to fiscally conservative moderates.

mriddick
02-14-2012, 04:02 AM
Regardless Oswald is right LAGC said something that is probably an exaggeration at best and you all bought it because you wanted to.

Would a candidate say he's for strict enforce of existing porn laws, yes I bet he would, even obama would yet I doubt LAGC would say he's for "banning porn"...

N/A
02-14-2012, 05:29 AM
Regardless Oswald is right LAGC said something that is probably an exaggeration at best and you all bought it because you wanted to.

Would a candidate say he's for strict enforce of existing porn laws, yes I bet he would, even obama would yet I doubt LAGC would say he's for "banning porn"...

Yes, the little marxist is even for child porn.....

was_peacemaker
02-14-2012, 05:48 AM
Former Senator Rick Santorum in a written statement: “Federal obscenity laws should be vigorously enforced. If elected President, I will appoint an Attorney General who will do so. Limited Justice Department resources should be used to protect children and women from predators, not limited by state boundaries rather than to sue border states.”

Former Governor Mitt Romney in a written statement: “(I)t is imperative that we cultivate the promotion of fundamental family values. This can be accomplished with increased parental involvement and enhanced supervision of our children. It includes strict enforcement of our nation’s obscenity laws, as well as the promotion of parental software controls that guard our children from Internet pornography.”

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich in a face-to-face meeting: When asked by MIM staff if he will enforce existing laws that make much hard-core adult pornography illegal, he responded, “Yes, I will appoint an Attorney General who will enforce these laws.”


None of these guys are talking about "banning porn". They are talking about strongly enforcing the laws on the books that help protect kids from it. Not banning it. This is like the typical response to "gun control" that GOP candidates always answer to. Its not that they advocate new laws, but just want to enforce the ones we already have.

El Laton Caliente
02-14-2012, 06:16 AM
OK, What we have here is a far left web site making unsubstantiated charges against Republicans...

And nothing more

was_peacemaker
02-14-2012, 06:24 AM
OK, What we have here is a far left web site making unsubstantiated charges against Republicans...

And nothing more

Naw! Say it ain't so! Those really exist? Lefties making stuff up that they can't prove? ROFL

ATAK, Inc.
02-14-2012, 08:12 AM
Someone is in serious denial.

Face it: your Republican "friends" want to dictate what victimless "crimes" people do in the privacy of their own homes.

So much for "small government" conservatives... :rolleyes:


STFU and go :duh:

Dr. Gonzo GED
02-14-2012, 12:15 PM
The bar tender looks up and says;

"What is this? Some kind of joke?"

:losing-it:

El Laton Caliente
02-14-2012, 12:18 PM
A liberal, a Moderate and a Conservative walk into a bar.

The bartender says "hello Governor Romney".

Shadow Walker
02-14-2012, 02:20 PM
If people can't get porn on the internet, will they go out and get it in person??

Will that be oulawed as well?

tank_monkey
02-14-2012, 02:48 PM
They talked about helping law enforcement combat CHILD EXPLOITATION and CHILD PORN. Leave it to the LEFT to distort what they say.

Back in 2000, the left wing gleefully implied that BUSH was going to run around town, grabbing every man's copy of PLAYBOY magazine out of his hands and set it on fire. I know. I was actually at a meeting where people claimed that was GOING TO HAPPEN. Didn't happen. Wasn't GOING to happen.

In fact the most blatant censorship of the NET and PORN in recent history was under CLINTON. The internet decency act made tons of things illegal that would not otherwise be thought to be so. I noticed that NO ONE mentioned Clinton or the fact that the Internet Decency Act (or whatever it was officially titled) of 1996 was drafted by Democrats!!!!!

LAGC
02-14-2012, 10:15 PM
They talked about helping law enforcement combat CHILD EXPLOITATION and CHILD PORN. Leave it to the LEFT to distort what they say.

No, that's not what they are talking about at all.

Will you agree to vigorously prosecute illegal adult pornography if elected president? Federal obscenity laws prohibit distribution of hardcore “obscene” pornography on the Internet, on cable/satellite TV, on hotel/motel TV, in retail shops, through the mail, and by common carrier. Pornography is causing great harm to America. It is causing addiction to children and adults and increasing violence against women. It is a contributing factor to sexual trafficking and causing an increase in child pornography. It is a leading cause of divorce and harming many marriages. Please tell me your position. Will you order your Attorney General to make adult obscenity prosecutions a priority?

http://www.waronillegalpornography.com/candidates/

If you think those groups (Morality in Media) are only going after kiddie porn, you haven't been paying attention.

They think REGULAR ADULT PORN is just as bad and corrosive to family values as kiddie porn is! They see no difference between the two!

They are Christian Taliban trying to turn America into a fucking theocracy, just like Saudi Arabia or Iran where all pornography is illegal.

And these three leading Republican candidates have signed on to their puritan agenda.

El Laton Caliente
02-14-2012, 10:25 PM
I could see where LAGC would be worried about his wanker material...